[skyguy79]

Originally Posted by janmcn

The title of this thread is Trayvon Martin, not murders around the country. Perhaps you should start another thread. I noticed that most of these crimes were solved and presume that the perpetrators will have a day in court. That's all that people are asking in this case.

What makes you thing that this is not what were asking for too? We also want to see justice served and if the juror pools are so compromised one way or the other that it's impossible to sit an impartial jury because of this "trial by influenced public opinion," how then will justice be served? By a vigilante lynch mob like in the old wild west?

And what if they do manage to find a jury of presumed impartial individuals! Will all the jurors have enough courage to vote their conscience once the facts are all presented to them at trial, if the facts show that Zimmerman is innocent? Or will they vote to convict in fear of potential death threats against them if they don't? It's already happened to some people involved and it surely will happen again against the jurors if they find him innocent!

If Zimmerman is in fact guilty, and he walks free because of what I've just explained, then who is guilty of obstructing justice. I can tell you that it's not us who speak against the rush to judgment and not involved in public protests!

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by RichieLion

If you don't see the relevance in the revolting circus revolving around the Martin case and the article I've posted, it's pointless of me to try to explain it to you.

If you think the investigation is moving too slowly, maybe you should run down to Sanford and join the lynching committee already in progress.

Just returned from the NAACP demonstation in Sanford where thousands of people called for justice in the case of Trayvon Martin.

[RichieLion]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Just returned from the NAACP demonstation in Sanford where thousands of people called for justice in the case of Trayvon Martin.

Are you the one who determines what "justice" is in this case?

Were you there, at the scene of the altercation during that altercation?

Did you have access to the investigative reports?

Hope you had a nice time, though.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by skyguy79

What makes you thing that this is not what were asking for too? We also want to see justice served and if the juror pools are so compromised one way or the other that it's impossible to sit an impartial jury because of this "trial by influenced public opinion," how then will justice be served? By a vigilante lynch mob like in the old wild west?

And what if they do manage to find a jury of presumed impartial individuals! Will all the jurors have enough courage to vote their conscience once the facts are all presented to them at trial, if the facts show that Zimmerman is innocent? Or will they vote to convict in fear of potential death threats against them if they don't? It's already happened to some people involved and it surely will happen again against the jurors if they find him innocent!

If Zimmerman is in fact guilty, and he walks free because of what I've just explained, then who is guilty of obstructing justice. I can tell you that it's not us who speak against the rush to judgment and not involved in public protests!

Hopefully the evidence will be strong enough, one way or the other, to have a fair trial if any charges are ever brought. You're making a bit of a leap talking about a "vigilante lynch mob like in the old west". If Casey Anthony could get a fair trial, hopefully George Zimmerman could also, if charged.

[oot]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Think you are missing the point. Its a teen vs adult. The adults are mature and no the difference of right and wrong. The teen is not experienced as the adult. Teens make dumb judgements adults should know better. Teens brains are not developed at that age, if you would have worked around teenagers you would know this. George Zimmerman was the one who acted more like the teenager by not thinking things out.

Police: Florida teen killed parents with hammer, hosted house party - CNN
Detroit Teen Says He Killed Mother Because 'I Was Tired Of This' | Loop21

Pontiac Teen Kills Father - News Talk 1400 AM WDTK Detroit
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0i09w1ku34]12 Year Old Detroit Boy Kills Young Woman During Robbery - YouTube[/ame]

I normally don't get into giving my opinion on this site, but the fact that a teen can make a dumb move does not lessen the fact that a teen also has the ability to kill - no matter the size of the teen - or child.

I will hold my judgement on this case until all the facts come out. If you are in law enforcement and you are trying to put together a case you just won't let all your findings out to the public - that is for the trial. You will not make an arrest until you have enough evidence to try to win your case.

There are many law enforcement agencies right now looking into this case. If they find that George Zimmerman was guilty of a crime then I fully believe the will be arrested. If they find he was innocent or there is not enough evidence to bring him to trial - then he will stay free.

No matter what the findings --

Sadly one person is dead and his family is in mourning......

Sadly other lives are forever changed - Zimmerman, his family, the people living in that complex, the City of Sanford - does not matter if Zimmerman is found to be not guilty or guilty......

The media circus will continue ......

[billethkid]

I do not have a link.
I saw the interview on WESH news last night at 11. The NAACP representative said....I am paraphrasing...he thought Sharpton was out of order by calling for a boycott of businesses in Sanford and that he was out of order seeking what Sharpton referred to as "escalation".

There are a good number of blacks who wish Sharpton was not involved. Word of this must have gotten back to him as he stated on camera tonight, NBC 6 PM news...."I am here because Trevons family asked to to come".

Even Jesse Jackson is setting himself apart from Sharpton by stating (6 PM NBC news tonight) to use every possible non violent and peaceful means available without boycotts.

Sharpton is nothing more than a self appointed radical racist...he adds no value for very many and brings shame to his race for most. Just ask any sensible black.

A blight on his race....

btk

[janmcn]

Two experts now say it was Trayvon Martin calling for help, not George Zimmerman as he stated.


Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman 911 call analysis: Two forensic experts say it's not George Zimmerman crying out for help - Orlando Sentinel

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Two experts now say it was Trayvon Martin calling for help, not George Zimmerman as he stated.


Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman 911 call analysis: Two forensic experts say it's not George Zimmerman crying out for help - Orlando Sentinel

HOORAY for you is all I can think of to say...how sad this all is

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I do not have a link.
I saw the interview on WESH news last night at 11. The NAACP representative said....I am paraphrasing...he thought Sharpton was out of order by calling for a boycott of businesses in Sanford and that he was out of order seeking what Sharpton referred to as "escalation".

There are a good number of blacks who wish Sharpton was not involved. Word of this must have gotten back to him as he stated on camera tonight, NBC 6 PM news...."I am here because Trevons family asked to to come".

Even Jesse Jackson is setting himself apart from Sharpton by stating (6 PM NBC news tonight) to use every possible non violent and peaceful means available without boycotts.

Sharpton is nothing more than a self appointed radical racist...he adds no value for very many and brings shame to his race for most. Just ask any sensible black.

A blight on his race....

btk

Rev Sharpton has been saying since the very beginning that he is here because Trayvon's family asked him to come. I don't think that means the NAACP has dropped him as you previously stated, but I will check the WESH transcript to verify.

I heard Rev Jackson's comments tonight and didn't hear him distance himself from Sharpton. We'll see if they appear together tomorrow at the rally in Miami.

Again, the thread is about Trayvon Martin, not Al Sharpton.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I do not have a link.
I saw the interview on WESH news last night at 11. The NAACP representative said....I am paraphrasing...he thought Sharpton was out of order by calling for a boycott of businesses in Sanford and that he was out of order seeking what Sharpton referred to as "escalation".

There are a good number of blacks who wish Sharpton was not involved. Word of this must have gotten back to him as he stated on camera tonight, NBC 6 PM news...."I am here because Trevons family asked to to come".

Even Jesse Jackson is setting himself apart from Sharpton by stating (6 PM NBC news tonight) to use every possible non violent and peaceful means available without boycotts.

Sharpton is nothing more than a self appointed radical racist...he adds no value for very many and brings shame to his race for most. Just ask any sensible black.

A blight on his race....

btk

"Turner Clayton, the Seminole County chapter president of the NAACP, reacted immediately to Sharpton's warning, saying, "We hope that the citizens of Sanford will govern themselves accordingly. We are not calling for any sanctions, against any business or anyone else. And, of course, what Rev. Sharpton does, that's strictly the [National] Action Network. We can't condone that part of the conversation, if that's what he said."

Civil rights leaders condemn Sharpton's call for escalated civil disobedience | News - Home

Watching people on this forum actually rooting as if there a high school football game is just a very very sad commentary

[RichieLion]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Two experts now say it was Trayvon Martin calling for help, not George Zimmerman as he stated.


Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman 911 call analysis: Two forensic experts say it's not George Zimmerman crying out for help - Orlando Sentinel

His father was played that tape and told police that was not his son.

He later recanted. Guessing he got some legal advice.

Who paid for these "forensic audio experts"?

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Did the Daily Sun explain what the relevance of what Trayvon Martin looked like has to do with his murder?

What murder? There has been a homicide, but it is not at all clear that there was a murder.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Rev Sharpton has been saying since the very beginning that he is here because Trayvon's family asked him to come. I don't think that means the NAACP has dropped him as you previously stated, but I will check the WESH transcript to verify.

I heard Rev Jackson's comments tonight and didn't hear him distance himself from Sharpton. We'll see if they appear together tomorrow at the rally in Miami.

Again, the thread is about Trayvon Martin, not Al Sharpton.

Wrong. Go back to the first post. This thread is about how the media coverage of the event. Al Sharpton is now a commentator for MSNBC, a news channel so far to the left in its coverage that it makes Fox News seem fair and balanced.

BTW, can you imagine how Sharpton and his ally Jesse Jackson would be reacting if the races of the shooter and deceased were reversed and you had the media and white demonstrators clamoring for the arrest of a black man on the basis of the sketchy public evidence indicating that Zimmerman committed a crime?

[ceejay]

[QUOTE=Advogado;474010
BTW, can you imagine how Sharpton and his ally Jesse Jackson would be reacting if the races of the shooter and deceased were reversed and you had the media and white demonstrators clamoring for the arrest of a black man on the basis of the sketchy public evidence indicating that Zimmerman committed a crime?[/QUOTE]

None of this media circus would have ever happened.

It would have been over by now.

OR

Sharpton and Jackson would have shown up to defend the shooter, claiming it was done in self-defense.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by RichieLion

His father was played that tape and told police that was not his son.

He later recanted. Guessing he got some legal advice.

Who paid for these "forensic audio experts"?

It sounded like a news station or newspaper paid for these experts. The lawyers on various sides of big name cases like OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony always seem to be able to get experts saying black is white and white is black.

Going to have to wait for a trial to get at which side seems to be telling the truth.