[paulandjean]

Who released the pictures,and when? Did not see anything like that out of the police car. Did he seek medical attention?This Trayvon was not a big kid. Losing end in a skuffle and pulls out his piece. Never should have been caring one in the first place. People need to be trained is firearms to carry one. I for do not carry,because I have a short fuse. However I am trained in self defense.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by RichieLion

"punched in the nose"?; Geezzz, haven't you seen the released picture of the back of his head that seems to support his story of having his head slammed into the concrete by Martin??

You make lot of assumptions with little to go on.

Here's a link if you're actually interested in evidence contrary to your early conviction of Mr. Zimmerman.
Bail set at $150K for George Zimmerman as he apologizes to Trayvon Martin's family for fatal shooting - NYPOST.com

They look like scratches not concussions. http://www.punditpress.com/2012/04/g...ury-photo.html

Remember that George Zimmerman did not have any bandages on his head 25 minutes after he was in this "fight". I get a bandage for my arm when I give blood which should stay on 4 hours. This is for a needle stick.

[janmcn]

NBC News is reporting that the Sanford City Commission is voting on the police chief, Bill Lee's resignation. Apparently, the investigation has proven that the Sanford Police Department did not do an adequate job. Why else would he be forced to resign?

We may know more details of the case this week when they are released because of news media filing suit under the freedom of information act.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by jflynn1

Interesting: Every News organiozation in the world has been reporting on this tragic event in Sanford Florida. Not One word in the Daily Sun, The Fun Only Newsletter.It is a shame they call themselves a news organization.

that makes me want to renew my subscription to the Daily Sun

[chuckinca]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

They look like scratches not concussions. Pundit Press: George Zimmerman Injury Photo

Remember that George Zimmerman did not have any bandages on his head 25 minutes after he was in this "fight". I get a bandage for my arm when I give blood which should stay on 4 hours. This is for a needle stick.

I recently fell playing pickleball and got a scrape on my elbow about 3 inches long by 1/2 inch wide. Put some antiseptic on it when I got home two hours later - it is too long and too wide for a band-aid. I believe I've seen a picture of Mr Zimmerman's head showing a scab similar to the one I have.

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[RichieLion]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

They look like scratches not concussions. Pundit Press: George Zimmerman Injury Photo

Remember that George Zimmerman did not have any bandages on his head 25 minutes after he was in this "fight". I get a bandage for my arm when I give blood which should stay on 4 hours. This is for a needle stick.

You have training in forensics that can make you identify the cause and extent of an injury through the use of a photograph?

You're taking a lot for granted, and with an obvious prejudice I might add.

[Patty55]

Here is a copy of the police report...

http://media.myfoxchicago.com/pdf/zimmerman-report.pdf

Page 3 discusses Zimmerman injuries.

[CMANN]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Who released the pictures,and when? Did not see anything like that out of the police car. Did he seek medical attention?This Trayvon was not a big kid. Losing end in a skuffle and pulls out his piece. Never should have been caring one in the first place. People need to be trained is firearms to carry one. I for do not carry,because I have a short fuse. However I am trained in self defense.

Trayvon was well over 6 feet. 6'3 or 4". You are looking at propaganda photos.

[CMANN]

Originally Posted by Patty55

Here is a copy of the police report...

http://media.myfoxchicago.com/pdf/zimmerman-report.pdf

Page 3 discusses Zimmerman injuries.

Enough said.

[buggyone]

CMANN,

Can we agree that George Zimmerman, whether or not he was in the right AND whether or not he is found guilty of murder or not found guilty, that his life will not the same as before - and not for the better?

If he is found guilty, he will go to prison.

If found not guilty, he will be a hated person by a large group of people (New Black Panthers, maybe) and will probably have to move, change his name, and still possibly be harmed by someone at some future time for killing Martin.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by buggyone

CMANN,

Can we agree that George Zimmerman, whether or not he was in the right AND whether or not he is found guilty of murder or not found guilty, that his life will not the same as before - and not for the better?

If he is found guilty, he will go to prison.

If found not guilty, he will be a hated person by a large group of people (New Black Panthers, maybe) and will probably have to move, change his name, and still possibly be harmed by someone at some future time for killing Martin.

Zimmerman and members of his family have been receiving death threats. A lot of very bad people are out to get him, whether he is guilty of any crime or not.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by janmcn

NBC News is reporting that the Sanford City Commission is voting on the police chief, Bill Lee's resignation. Apparently, the investigation has proven that the Sanford Police Department did not do an adequate job. Why else would he be forced to resign?

We may know more details of the case this week when they are released because of news media filing suit under the freedom of information act.

NBC again, that 911 call transcription editing disinformation disseminating outfit? What investigation of Bill Lee Jr.? NO investigation of Bill Lee Jr. has PROVEN anything. He is NOT being forced to resign. He wanted to resign but the City Commission refused.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Zimmerman and members of his family have been receiving death threats. A lot of very bad people are out to get him, whether he is guilty of any crime or not.

So, you also agree that Zimmerman's life will never be the same as it was before he killed Martin. I am just stating this to emphasize that probably Zimmerman would NOT have followed Martin with a pistol IF he had thought of the ramifications that have taken place since the killing - no matter if he was in the right or not - and no matter if he is found guilty or not guilty.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by buggyone

So, you also agree that Zimmerman's life will never be the same as it was before he killed Martin. I am just stating this to emphasize that probably Zimmerman would NOT have followed Martin with a pistol IF he had thought of the ramifications that have taken place since the killing - no matter if he was in the right or not - and no matter if he is found guilty or not guilty.

I agree. Zimmerman's life and his family's life will never be the same. He will have to lead a fugitive existence or obtain a legal change of identity of some sort if it is proven he acted in justifiable self defense and he goes free. Of course if he is convicted and spends time in a prison that is another situation entirely.

From what I read in various reports and from the statements of witnesses it appears Martin was on top of Zimmerman, beating the crap out of him, possibly breaking his nose, pounding his head onto the concrete and (I have read in one account) suffocating Zimmerman. After repeatedly calling for help and receiving no assistance Zimmerman, with Martin on top of him, at that point pulled out his pistol and shot Martin. It remains unestablished whether Zimmerman actually pursued Martin and initiated a physical confrontation with him or whether he was returning to his SUV and Martin attacked him. How far was Martin's body from Zimmerman's SUV, a few feet or a block or two away? If nearby it seems to me that Zimmerman was likely returning to his SUV, not chasing Martin and that Martin returned and attacked Zimmerman. Zimmerman told the 911 operator that he had lost sight of Martin. So Martin had run some distance away or possibly ducked around a house or found other cover. It further away, "the jury is still out" on who initiated the physical confrontation - sorry for the bad pun.

[paulandjean]

CMAN---Trayvon not 6"3 or 6"4 --- 6'0 160 lbs thin skinny kid