Tunnel to Towers vs Wounded Warrior Project

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Thanks for posting this. It is a real shame that WWP plays on our wish to support the troops and leaders simply line their pockets. T2T gets my support every month and they are deserving.
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None, but that's not the point; charities are created to help those in need, not to help thy-self; paying yourself $1,000 per day in compensation is ridiculous!!!
Running a $300 Million dollar business takes someone with a certain skillset... Often times, that costs money.

His salary is about 1% of their donations...
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Michael Linnington came to Wounded Warrior Project around 2016 when a whistle blower told stories of total waste by the management at the time. At the time, if I remember right, they were bringing in over $300 million per year. Drop off immediately and it was questionable if WWP would survive. The board of directors investigated the allegation and fired most of the management and brought in Linnington to straighten out the charity. I believe when he took over, almost 60% of the contribution were used for huge salaries, extravagant parties, staff benefits, and other charges. I lived in Jacksonville at the time and it was a huge mess! Anyway, he did a great job of cleaning up the mess at the time. Probably saved WWP. Have not followed WWP since so not sure how things are run now.
Apparently, 72% of the donations are now going to veterans. Not perfect, but MUCH better than before. Seems like money well spent...
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We dropped WWP years ago for the same reason. Check out Gary Sineci Foundation. Gary really care about veterans.
Gary Sinese (Lieutenant Dan in "Forrest Gump") is a saint! I give to his charity.

For my 60th birthday, I asked my Facebook friends to donate to his charity in honor of my birthday. IIRC, we raised over $2500.

You might want to try it when your birthday rolls around. FaceBook makes it easy to do and helps you set up a PayPal account that goes directly to the charity of your choice...

Watch this video of people thanking him for his tireless work...

https://youtu.be/K7nCYnFsBqs
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Great advice! Charitable money should go to the cause not to stuff a greedy person's pocket. Some people have no shame and they only see $$$$. It's ridiculous that charities who need the money are victims of people like Gen Linnington. He should be arrested and the keys thrown away!
Yeah, they lost me when they threw that $300k party for themselves. Not saying veterans aren’t a worthy cause, but it helped me decide “little kids with cancer” was a wiser use of my money.
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First speak to the people who the Wounded Warriors have helped. Don’t think they care about executive compensation. Not sure everyone working in the T2T work for free. Where does Frank get his money for personal use.
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T2T. Nothing better.
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I also stopped giving to WW when I heard about the waste and excessive salaries. T2T was and is my go to charity as well. Frank Siller really does care about military and first responder’s families and is not out to enrich himself.
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From the IRS Form 990s, the Wounded Warrior Project charity receives more than twice the amount in donations than the Tunnel to Towers charity. Retired General Michael Linnington, the CEO of WWP, receives a salary of $365K per year in compensation, and there are 12 other managers who receive more than $200K each in annual compensation. So, Linnington makes more money than any military officer has ever made in the history of our country, in addition to his military pension. By contrast, Frank Siller, the CEO of Tunnel to Towers, receives zero compensation, and none of the other managers of T2T receive any compensation at all.

I would recommend that anyone who wants to donate money to a charity, please go to "Guidestar" or "Charity Navigator" and read the charity's Form 990 to find out how they are spending the money that you donate.
The Charity Navigator site gives both of those 100% ratings, but it gives no info on Tunnels to Towers. The Tunnels to Towers spends only half as much on administration and fundraising, but neither spends as much as some so-called charities.
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Years ago I learned about how much the CEO of WWP salary was. I founded to be WRONG! A few months back, I learned about Tunnel to Towers and add my first donation to it.
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From the IRS Form 990s, the Wounded Warrior Project charity receives more than twice the amount in donations than the Tunnel to Towers charity. Retired General Michael Linnington, the CEO of WWP, receives a salary of $365K per year in compensation, and there are 12 other managers who receive more than $200K each in annual compensation. So, Linnington makes more money than any military officer has ever made in the history of our country, in addition to his military pension. By contrast, Frank Siller, the CEO of Tunnel to Towers, receives zero compensation, and none of the other managers of T2T receive any compensation at all.

I would recommend that anyone who wants to donate money to a charity, please go to "Guidestar" or "Charity Navigator" and read the charity's Form 990 to find out how they are spending the money that you donate.
Thank you. This information is so very helpful.
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A symbol of the good-ole-boy network investing in their own future (over) compensation?? To quote Popeye "charities are created to help those in need, not to help thy-self"

As (volunteer) director of a non-profit healthcare center that serves those in true need in 3 Appalachian hill counties, we compete with such inflated compensation for dollars to serve those who live in heartbreaking poverty.

My question to you all: What is the s-o--l-u-t-i-o-n to addressing such extravagant benefits?

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Remember the scandals of United Way back in the early 90's. William Aramony, CEO at that time, went to prison for his misuse of United Way funds. His salary then was less than $500k, and the organization took in around $3 billion. But, he was using United Way as his personal piggy bank. There is often more than just executive salary involved. FWIW, not sure United Way really learned the lesson. There have been several other scandals since the Aramony fiasco.
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The Charity Navigator site gives both of those 100% ratings, but it gives no info on Tunnels to Towers. The Tunnels to Towers spends only half as much on administration and fundraising, but neither spends as much as some so-called charities.

The Wounded Warrior Project gets 89% rating on charity navigator. A separate organization from the the Wounded Warrior Family that gets a 100% rating shown in this post.

A four star general makes $203,688 per year.

The founder of Tunnels to Tower did it to honor his brother - a firefighter - who died in 9/11. Very impressive.

It's hard to judge the fairness of salaries of a President of a large charity. It is still a business. And the salary of $365,000 is in line with businesses with that revenue and reach.
Maybe low.

Whether all the high salaries are justified/necessary is questionable. But because it a charity does not mean that the executives should work for less than market.

The President of the American Heart Association gets over $3,000,000.

There are many examples of over $1,000,000 salaries.

And there are many generals employed by private industry, the media or the government that make far more than $365,000 paid to this former general.
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Running a $300 Million dollar business takes someone with a certain skillset... Often times, that costs money.

His salary is about 1% of their donations...
So you think, paying yourself $1,000.00 a day from kind-hearted people's donation money, is OK... The guy is a skimmer!
BTW, Do you work for "GoodWell"?
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