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Road widening.
The art of getting more traffic to the next bottleneck even faster.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by MrChip72

What is your motivation to want these unnecessary bridges to be built then? The developer is done with adding bridges over SR44 and the turnpike. There's zero need to add more than what's there. I live on the south side of the turnpike.

Once McNeil drive is open end to end to golf carts the parts of TV south of the turnpike will be well connected.

Famous last words: "The Developer is done". :-)

The point is several new bridges being built by the state of Florida in areas across Turnpike include pedestrian paths as part of the Expansion. These areas have population densities far lower than the Villages.

We'll find out once design is completed. Construction is 6-10 years away.

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by Altavia

The point is several new bridges being built by the state of Florida in areas across Turnpike include pedestrian paths as part of the Expansion.

Isn't it illegal by State law for the State to build or manage any roads or pathways within a Community Development District (CDD) like the Villages?

[Normal]

Originally Posted by MrChip72

Isn't it illegal by State law for the State to build or manage any roads or pathways within a Community Development District (CDD) like the Villages?

Yes, the state is even building pedestrian sidewalks so you can walk from Villages grown to downtown Wildwood. What’s the point? Show me a design where you can put golf carts on 470 and have them maneuver around two entangles and exits from the turnpike.

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by Normal

Yes, the state is even building pedestrian sidewalks so you can walk from Villages grown to downtown Wildwood. What’s the point?

That area isn't in the Villages though. Sidewalks on state roads are a requirement now, although probably not the worst thing to do if the Walmart is going around that location according to some. SR44 will be all built up one day in the future.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by pokeefe45@aol.com

Who says that the golf cart 'lane' would have to be on a county road? Why wouldn't a dedicated golf cart bridge ( like Water Lily) be the practical play to traverse the turnpike at or close to CR470? The outline of the path exists now-and the county has an agreement in place to allow widening of 470 to 4 lanes-Once the 'Wellness' Village is fully developed and land south of CR470 begins full development-the golf cart connectivity will become important. I'd say good chance of me driving my golf cart across the turnpike near 470-in maybe 5 years?

Probably longer than 5 years away since they just started design.

That area is a blank slate for the Engineers. They could leave the current interchange in place while building a new one further south.

Central Parkway shares very little of the former CR470 path.

Could be the same on the Lake County side.

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by pokeefe45@aol.com

I'd say good chance of me driving my golf cart across the turnpike near 470-in maybe 5 years?

Zero chance. The bond rates were already set based on what they had planned to build with that money. The developer can't just add-on new infrastructure after the fact. Every road, bridge, sidewalk and MMP was factored into the bond for people that bought in Dabney and adjoining areas.

Also, between announcing the Waterlily bridge and final completion was longer than five years. Ask anyone that bought in Fenney at the beginning and had no access to the rest of the Villages by golf cart for several years.

Regardless, the priority will be on the Central Parkway area for the next 5+ years.

[Altavia]

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[Altavia]

Originally Posted by MrChip72

Zero chance. The bond rates were already set based on what they had planned to build with that money. The developer can't just add-on new infrastructure after the fact. Every road, bridge, sidewalk and MMP was factored into the bond for people that bought in Dabney and adjoining areas.

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County infrastructure is financed via property taxes, not the bond.

Sumter County paid for the regional roads including the Bexley Bridge - which includes MMP connectivity.

https://www.samanthamerritt.org/road...rowth-in-step/

Pedestrian paths over the Turnpike illustrated earlier in this thread are being constructed now.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Altavia

County infrastructure is financed via property taxes, not the bond.

Sumter County paid for the regional roads including the Bexley Bridge - which includes MMP connectivity.

https://www.samanthamerritt.org/road...rowth-in-step/

Pedestrian paths over the Turnpike illustrated earlier in this thread are funded by the State.

Tavares and Lake county play a whole different type of ball game with developers. The road from the Lake/Sumter line to Meggison will be 4 lanes and a side walk will be on the right side is all anyone knows outside general news. The going pattern is no traffic circles and a required walk. The funding we know is from 10 million in road impact fees and the 6.5 million credit. The state hasn’t published much on their right of way (ie. Turnpike), but we can look at the stretch that has been completed.

The going pattern is the on off exits will be massive actual circular routes off 470 or whatever it may be named. A lot of conjecture could be made, but in the end things will develop as it gets started on and built. This isn’t a a road addition, so don’t look for a designing marvel. The Developer has to take into consideration state rights to maintain the current crossing of the turnpike. The engineered plans can’t be changed on a dime to add a golf cart path just for fun.

If you want to use a golf cart to cross 470 near Dabney, you just need to take a ride to Sawgrass and use the existing bridge. Otherwise, the Developer will have to go back to Tavares and deal with a whole new road issue and road deal to build a new road to cross.

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