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Rags123 12-03-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 975903)
Basically, are you saying it does not matter if the evidence is real or made up.

Instead of a drive by comment, telling someone what THEY think, perhaps you might explain exactly what you mean.

He acknowledged the photo was erroneous and made his comment on his feelings.

In NO way can I hear, evidence doe not matter if real or made up.

Now the premise of this thread is about how a perception in the Ferguson case was and is based on a lie and everyone knows it but does not care.

I think your judgement of this poster is shallow, uncalled for and antogonistic and requires some explanation to the poster whose mind you claimed to have read.

Rags123 12-03-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 975903)
Amazing replies.

Can you expand on that please ?

billethkid 12-03-2014 03:00 PM

How about a purpose of this thread reminder:

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 975779)
It seems to me there is a totally unfair and misguided attempt by some special interest groups and media to create a general condition of mistrust with law enforcement in America.

It seems we are continuing to move in the direction of what group can speak the loudest, or get the most media attention with two very concerning aspects.

Complete disregard for whether the allegations are true or not....it just does not seem to matter anymore.

Secondly how can, like it or not, an isolated incident be blown into an across the board condition nation wide?


I personally object to the notion the law enforcement community in general is not to be trusted to do what is right. I also firmly reject that rioting and camera hogging become the new face of the wants and needs of Americans.

My position has nothing to do with who was right or wrong......I like millions upon millions DO NOT HAVE enough credible information (non media or special interest or alarmists like Sharpton/Jackson) to take a stand.

My position is all about the way some few are trying to change, with some success, what we beleive about law enforcement in America!!!!!


Sandtrap328 12-03-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 975908)
Instead of a drive by comment, telling someone what THEY think, perhaps you might explain exactly what you mean.

He acknowledged the photo was erroneous and made his comment on his feelings.

In NO way can I hear, evidence doe not matter if real or made up.

Now the premise of this thread is about how a perception in the Ferguson case was and is based on a lie and everyone knows it but does not care.

I think your judgement of this poster is shallow, uncalled for and antogonistic and requires some explanation to the poster whose mind you claimed to have read.

Wow, you jumped on that immediatly, didn't you? I deleted that post within one minute of posting it. Glad you are watching for my posts. Keep up your vigil.

graciegirl 12-03-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 975915)
Wow, you jumped on that immediatly, didn't you? I deleted that post within one minute of posting it. Glad you are watching for my posts. Keep up your vigil.


Rags is not jumping. He asked a fair question.

Moderator 12-03-2014 03:16 PM

Please return to the OP's original topic or the thread will be closed.

graciegirl 12-03-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KayakerNC (Post 975858)
It's the mentality of EVERY parent that their kids can do no wrong (until they do). And the fact that the sign was photo-shopped to promote racism says a lot about who is promoting hatred.

No it isn't the mentality of every parent that a kid can do no wrong until they do. Most people love their children with their whole hearts and would die for them, but thinking, caring people know that their job as parents is to be suspicious and push them toward the right thing. Many, not all, kids without parents who REALLY care grow up lazy and whining and immoral. Most of the parents that I knew when my kids were growing up were just as suspicious and judgmental as I was. In our case, I was with them most of the time since their father was flying around the country most of the time trying to make enough money so I could stay home with them until they were school age. It is little children that learn morals. Forget about teens, it is too late. AND they will DO what you DO not what you say.

Where do you think the old saying comes from, My mother has eyes in the back of her head? It is a sad shame that most parents these days aren't with their kids enough to really KNOW them like we knew our children, back in the day when one parent stayed with them until they went to school if they could.

graciegirl 12-03-2014 03:35 PM

[QUOTE=graciegirl;975827]If that kid was taught what my kids were taught and what I was taught and what my parents were taught;. "NEVER question the authority of police", he would be alive today. My kids would be dead too, if they shut the car door twice on an officer of the law and punched him several times. Everybody knows that, but apparently not all children are taught that anymore. Along with, don't steal, don't intimidate older smaller people from whom you have stolen and don't come runnin' to me whining about all that character assassination when you act like a fool and get killed.

Bumping back to topic so the moderator doesn't close the thread.

redwitch 12-03-2014 03:49 PM

Whether we care to admit it or not, there are two sets of standards used by LEOs. Talk to most black men and you'll find they are much more routinely stopped than their white counterparts regardless of neighborhood, dress or age. Ask your teenage grandkids how often they are stopped by LEOs while walking down the street. Ask a black teenage boy the same question. You might be saddened by the answer.

Yes, the behavior in Ferguson is unexcusable but it is understandable. Do any of you really believe that Off. Wilson would have treated three white boys walking in the street the same way as he did Brown? (Remember, he did not know about the shoplifting incident.)

TVMayor 12-03-2014 03:49 PM

When I take over black neighborhoods will be protected my black police and white neighborhoods will be protected by white police. Al S will deal with black police problems and a white person would take care of white police problems.

This will prevent towns from being burned down and business from being looted.

graciegirl 12-03-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 975941)
Whether we care to admit it or not, there are two sets of standards used by LEOs. Talk to most black men and you'll find they are much more routinely stopped than their white counterparts regardless of neighborhood, dress or age. Ask your teenage grandkids how often they are stopped by LEOs while walking down the street. Ask a black teenage boy the same question. You might be saddened by the answer.

Yes, the behavior in Ferguson is unexcusable but it is understandable. Do any of you really believe that Off. Wilson would have treated three white boys walking in the street the same way as he did Brown? (Remember, he did not know about the shoplifting incident.)


Please reread the report from the Grand Jury. Darren Wilson was called to that incident of stealing some small items and Michael Brown was described, including his shoes or socks were yellow.

I know you are talking about racial profiling. THAT is a very big problem and we all know why although we are not supposed to bring it up.

I know that since Ferguson that the smiles I give everybody in public places where we usually stop to pee and eat were not returned by a lot of blacks in the last week on our journey to Ohio. THAT makes me think that race relations are going the WRONG direction.

graciegirl 12-03-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 975942)
When I take over black neighborhoods will be protected my black police and white neighborhoods will be protected by white police. Al S will deal with black police problems and a white person would take care of white police problems.

This will prevent towns from being burned down and business from being looted.

When I take over every law enforcement person in this country will wear a body camera. I doubt even that would change things.

Rags123 12-03-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 975915)
Wow, you jumped on that immediatly, didn't you? I deleted that post within one minute of posting it. Glad you are watching for my posts. Keep up your vigil.

I was reading the thread.

Why did you post it in the first place if you took it down in one minute.

To the point of the thread....I do not, for one minute, think there is no racial profiling. I do NOT believe that policeman are out trying to hassle black youths. I do beleive ther are bad cops, but what is being done to police nationwide is just wrong BASED ON LIES, all proven lies mind you.

I hear all about the arrest records of black youths. Does anyone know how many are convicted ? Perhaps the profiling of black youths in certain areas is justified.

Sometimes when a conversation is needed on a national level as everyone thinks we need, we should cover ALL sides including those uncomfortable truths whether pro or con to how you feel.

VILLAGER 2011 12-03-2014 04:07 PM

The "thin blue line" did its job.
These thugs are engaging in anarchy.

tomwed 12-03-2014 04:11 PM

The Charles Barkley Rant on Ferguson Grand Jury Decision That You Won’t Believe You’re Just Now Hearing

click here I think you will find a lot of common ground with Charles Barkley. I admire the man for saying what he thinks, while knowing he will upset some kids with blinders on.


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