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lkagele 09-20-2021 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 2006998)
Wow. Throw out some stats and this is what ensued. Amazing. Oh, and the "died with COVID" idea. I love that one. When one wants to deny, just make something up by using anecdotal info. SMH.

You didn't throw out any stats. You threw out some numbers and insinuated they meant something.

If 'died with COVID' is so funny to you, explain my previous post where a murder/suicide was counted as two COVID deaths.

lkagele 09-20-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 2007172)
Perhaps a course in remedial reading might help? I never mentioned total gov't control, but I did say we need to all fight this enemy. HUGE-AH difference, than full gov't control. It's more along the lines of love your neighbor as yourself.

And if you want to claim conservative status, please know that conservatives aren't for centralized gov't, yet that is what was done in Florida. The Governor centralized Florida's government, by taking away local control. He alone placed himself, as full government controller.

Enjoy the rest of the thread.

Reading all your posts, 'fight this enemy' to you means, 'my way or the highway'.

There is no universal agreement on how to fight COVID.

lkagele 09-20-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2007178)
I was a huge proponent of universal masking prior to the vaccines. I remain a huge proponent of masking but now for people who are at risk of Covid and who can not receive the vaccine for what ever reason they may have. This includes children who are not eligible for the vaccine because of their age and also people who have medical issues and can not be vaccinated.

These vulnerable people who must be protected need to protect themselves. Yes, that includes children who should mask up when in public if their parents feel the need for them to be protected.

I'm fully vaccinated and at this point, I'm not wearing a mask to protect anyone who can easily protect themselves by simply wearing a protective mask such as an N95 mask or equivalent. I've done my part by being fully vaccinated and will gladly take a booster shot when I am eligible for that. Bring it on!

Masks don't work.

coffeebean 09-20-2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2006572)
If you say you got it at VA then I guess you did , but I’m not seeing it anywhere the only thing I did see is they would start with over 75 which I am and after 6 months which I have passed getting mine through va last on jan 28

I just made an appointment with my PCP for my Moderna booster shot for Sept. 24th. I'm over 65 but under 75.

coffeebean 09-20-2021 03:03 PM

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coffeebean 09-20-2021 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 2007212)
Masks don't work.

N95 masks are protective. They are part of the arsenal of PPE used by health care workers. If those who are unable to be vaccinated can not depend on those protective masks then that is just a horrible outcome for them.

JMintzer 09-20-2021 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2007226)
I just made an appointment with my PCP for my Moderna booster shot for Sept. 24th. I'm over 65 but under 75.

Why? It's not yet been approved, unless you're immunocompromised...

JMintzer 09-20-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 2007207)
You didn't throw out any stats. You threw out some numbers and insinuated they meant something.

If 'died with COVID' is so funny to you, explain my previous post where a murder/suicide was counted as two COVID deaths.

Yeah, I noticed Ol' Ben Conveniently ignored that post...

JMintzer 09-20-2021 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2007247)
N95 masks are protective. They are part of the arsenal of PPE used by health care workers. If those who are unable to be vaccinated can not depend on those protective masks then that is just a horrible outcome for them.

Yeah, but most aren't wearing N95 masks...

Spalumbos62 09-20-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pablo cruze (Post 2006792)
Thanks for sharing. I hope that you stay safe (and enjoy the dance).
I got the shot as soon as I could (Janssen) [on Good Friday], no side effects. I continued to stay quarantined for 2 weeks (social distance); but since then I've resumed a "new" (ab)normal routine.

Sure hope people are warned bf they get too close. Should you even go? Sweating and all...concerns me... in fact surprised it's not mandated.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-20-2021 06:19 PM

I called the VA today , I’m 82 but
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2007226)
I just made an appointment with my PCP for my Moderna booster shot for Sept. 24th. I'm over 65 but under 75.

because I have no health issues , I’ll probably have to wait till first of month , I could go to my primary care person st VA who I only see once a year to stay in system but I don’t want to bother, I have excellent health insurance so I don’t go , I would if I didn’t have great health insurance to go with Medicare , the VA puts out a good product

Love2Swim 09-20-2021 06:27 PM

Oh enough already. Too many people have died, unnecessarily. We have vaccines available, and studies show masks will help end the pandemic. Its that simple. Smarten up, get vaccinated, and wear a friggin mask when you need to.

Byte1 09-21-2021 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2007325)
Oh enough already. Too many people have died, unnecessarily. We have vaccines available, and studies show masks will help end the pandemic. Its that simple. Smarten up, get vaccinated, and wear a friggin mask when you need to.

Sorry, but I have no intention of wearing a mask. Oh, you said "when you need to." I won't need to. If you don't trust your vaccination, you certainly shouldn't trust a cloth or paper mask. But that is just my opinion.
We have a lot of people in the World so losing a few million won't make much difference. Won't even stop global climate change...:clap2:

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-21-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2007181)
Has the flu EVER stressed our health care system like Covid has? Just wondering.

The plague did. The flu did not.

And here's some really nifty news:

COVID-19, all strains from beginning in late 2019 til now, have caused or contributed to the death of more people who died from the BIG Spanish influenza (or complications of the Spanish flu) epidemic of 1918.

By "contributed to" and "complications of" I mean - people who would have lived longer, with a reasonable quality of life, but because of the illness, developed or exacerbated pre-existing medical conditions such that they ended up dead anyway.

So being 30 pounds overweight wouldn't have killed them, 20 years later. But being 30 pounds overweight AND having COVID-19, was the one-two punch that got them.

Having asthma wouldn't have killed them. But the combination of having asthma and getting COVID put them into a perpetual asthma attack that they were unable to get out of, and they died.

Pre-existing conditions are not usually deadly in and of themselves. But combined with a flu or virus, can be deadly. They would NOT have died, if they had NOT contracted the flu or virus. The virus isn't the actual thing that killed them. But it was the trigger, the thing that caused "death" to suddenly become a eventual result.

nick demis 09-21-2021 01:20 PM

I can't believe that the moderator is continuing to allow this liberal political post. I guess only conservative posts get banned.


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