[justjim]

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing

Such microdroplets dissipate in seconds with the slightest breeze, and UV from sunlight quickly kills the virus in those droplets. If I were walking or biking with a friend I think I would wear a mask, but not by myself. It’s sort of like smoking. If you are face to face with people, they can definitely smell it. In the same car, yes. In the same room, yes. Outside, probably not much if the people are just walking by. Multiple lungfuls of contaminated air are more likely to share the virus than a distant whiff.

Reasonable quote:
It’s easy to observe from some of the comments that some have become paranoid regarding Coronavirus. Yes, we should be concerned and diligent but it is possible to go “overboard”.

[Rosebud1949]

MASKS..... YES YES YES.. especially with the windy conditions.. someone coughs or sneezes at the top of the street, and the germ gets 200 yards in a flash, so get used to them, as the next step is being allowed out regularly WITH MASKS...still those folk in stores ( senior hours) without gloves or mask .. shame on you.I dont care if you get it, but DONT GIVE IT TO EVERYONE ELSE.......especially grocery store staff, and those on the front line. Marion Sumter and Lake Counties have almost the lowest cases, lets keep it that way.

[jet10s]

Originally Posted by Velvet

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“Bubonic plague is fatal in about 50-70% of untreated cases, but perhaps 10-15% when treated.” At our age group because it cannot be treated at all, Covid-19 is not that different.

YOU ARE KIDDING -- RIGHT NOW THE STATS IN THE STATES are a mortality of 0.7 percent -- and many of those people were with severe comorbidities -- I really laugh when I see people walking alone with a mask or even more hysterical is people driving alone in their cars with the windows up -- come on -- you will probably never have a normal life again -- this is nothing like a plague -- if you are so afraid -- just stay home FOREVER

[jet10s]

Originally Posted by npwalters

i guess the fact that "respiratory microdroplets can stay in the air for up to several hours." kind of nullifies the 6 ft separation in a store plan. Apparently i can be infected by a person that was in the space several hours prior to my arrival.

the concentration of virus particles flying in the wind would never be enough to cause an infection

[Aloha1]

The CDC recommended wearing masks "WHERE IT IS DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING". They did not say wear them all the time. The MIT study of airborne micro droplets was conducted in a sealed environment WITHOUT WIND OR HIGH HUMIDITY.

We have wind and more importantly, high humidity. Higher humidity means more moisture droplets in the air which are heavier than the micro droplets someone might create by coughing or sneezing. The micro droplets are overwhelmed and fall to the ground in a matter of nano seconds. Wind disperses any micro droplets which reduces risk. Outdoor activity with social spacing is safer than going to Publix with a mask. And that's not a big risk either.

One more comment before the flaming begins: Ask yourself this question. If this virus is so contagious, where are all the cases we should be seeing? Social distancing alone does not account for the relatively small number of cases here or elsewhere in the US. 30 million Americans got the flu this season and the Wuhan virus is supposed to be much more contagious. yet only 1 million cases have been documented. Think about it.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

The CDC recommended wearing masks "WHERE IT IS DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING". They did not say wear them all the time. The MIT study of airborne micro droplets was conducted in a sealed environment WITHOUT WIND OR HIGH HUMIDITY.

We have wind and more importantly, high humidity. Higher humidity means more moisture droplets in the air which are heavier than the micro droplets someone might create by coughing or sneezing. The micro droplets are overwhelmed and fall to the ground in a matter of nano seconds. Wind disperses any micro droplets which reduces risk. Outdoor activity with social spacing is safer than going to Publix with a mask. And that's not a big risk either.

One more comment before the flaming begins: Ask yourself this question. If this virus is so contagious, where are all the cases we should be seeing? Social distancing alone does not account for the relatively small number of cases here or elsewhere in the US. 30 million Americans got the flu this season and the Wuhan virus is supposed to be much more contagious. yet only 1 million cases have been documented. Think about it.

Good points.

We need to adapt appropriate risk mitigation measures that are reasonably sustainable over 12-18 months.

Everything in life has risks. Likelihood of getting hit by lightening may be higher than getting COVID in the open air. Sorry but only way to go for the zero risk people is just stay home.

I do wish the health agencies would publish some examples where they have traced back to sources of infection. Especially when so many medical professionals imply there is viral load connection with sustained contact and/or surface to face.

[jet10s]

Originally Posted by Rosebud1949

MASKS..... YES YES YES.. especially with the windy conditions.. someone coughs or sneezes at the top of the street, and the germ gets 200 yards in a flash, so get used to them, as the next step is being allowed out regularly WITH MASKS...still those folk in stores ( senior hours) without gloves or mask .. shame on you.I dont care if you get it, but DONT GIVE IT TO EVERYONE ELSE.......especially grocery store staff, and those on the front line. Marion Sumter and Lake Counties have almost the lowest cases, lets keep it that way.

YOU SHOULD JUST STAY IN YOUR HOUSE FOREVER -- you are wrong on so many counts -- you must think that pollen is dangerous too --- maybe that carries the virus and is on your patio and car -- according to you everyone must already have the virus and soon we will all be dead -- NO SCIENCE IN ANYTHING YOU SAY

[mollyb]

If it brings you peace of mind... go for it

[npwalters]

Originally Posted by mollyb

If it brings you peace of mind... go for it

Very good advice - especially when coupled with "just don't try to force it on me".

[mollyb]

If it makes you feel better...do it!

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by npwalters

I guess the fact that "respiratory microdroplets can stay in the air for up to several hours." kind of nullifies the 6 ft separation in a store plan. Apparently I can be infected by a person that was in the space several hours prior to my arrival.

Reality-6 feet. I do not claim to be an expert but I think it is safe to realize that with a wind blowing it would be less on the up wind side and more on the down wind side.

On the radio, I think that was where I heard it, they claimed the virus can live on your shoes for 3-4 days We are told on a cardboard box for hours. Simply makes no sense at all.

Similar conflicting information about dogs.

As to wearing a face mask while exercising. You should probably exercise alone. No shortage of videos. When, you exercise, you raise your heart rate, you need more oxygen and any mask will restrict your breathing-that is not good for you.

[sallybowron]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Really? No need to walk with a mask.

This isnt the Bubonic Plague

It is not the Bubonic Plague for sure. We had a known treatment for that. Wear your mask if you are outside or near other people.

[sallybowron]

Originally Posted by Velvet

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“Bubonic plague is fatal in about 50-70% of untreated cases, but perhaps 10-15% when treated.” At our age group because it cannot be treated at all, Covid-19 is not that different.

For us Covid is worse.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by theruizs

Depends on how many others you encounter when you walk and how close you get. I can see that for some wearing a mask while walking makes sense. My wife and I know the peak times in our neighborhood and we wait for the lulls.

Who’s says the virus don’t carry with the wind? Up drafts could carry or for miles or hundreds of miles. I think there lots of thing that could be going on?

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by jet10s

YOU ARE KIDDING -- RIGHT NOW THE STATS IN THE STATES are a mortality of 0.7 percent -- and many of those people were with severe comorbidities -- I really laugh when I see people walking alone with a mask or even more hysterical is people driving alone in their cars with the windows up -- come on -- you will probably never have a normal life again -- this is nothing like a plague -- if you are so afraid -- just stay home FOREVER

In my age group death rate I figure around 7% so about half of treated bubonic plaque. Different age groups face different rates.

What I don’t understand is even if it is a low probability why would people not take precautions? It’s not that hard to put a mask on.

I read somewhere there is a town where if you step outside your house with no mask on you risk getting shot. I wonder if they count those deaths as Covid related too? (Ok, I’m kidding.) But not everyone is very tolerant.