[billethkid]

Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA

Do you really think we need more gun laws???

hat image needs repeating and repeating and then again.

[billethkid]

gun-crime-jpg

[billethkid]

can't get the image to repeat

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by billethkid

hat image needs repeating and repeating and then again.

The claim that the USA is third highest in murders in the world, etc, is FALSE.

Type it into Snopes.com for the full story and information.

It also explains the falsehood of the claim that without Chicago, DC, and Detroit murder rates that the USA would be fourth from the bottom of the list.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

The claim that the USA is third highest in murders in the world, etc, is FALSE.

Type it into Snopes.com for the full story and information.

It also explains the falsehood of the claim that without Chicago, DC, and Detroit murder rates that the USA would be fourth from the bottom of the list.

send the link please

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

The claim that the USA is third highest in murders in the world, etc, is FALSE.

Type it into Snopes.com for the full story and information.

It also explains the falsehood of the claim that without Chicago, DC, and Detroit murder rates that the USA would be fourth from the bottom of the list.

Originally Posted by tomwed

send the link please

Isn't it Snopes.com?

[Sandtrap328]

m.snopes.com/united-states-third-murders

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

m.snopes.com/united-states-third-murders

thank-you
What I like about snopes is that "The research materials [we�ve] used in the preparation of any particular page are listed in the bibliography displayed at the bottom of that page so that readers who wish to verify the validity of our information may check those sources for themselves."

[evelyn218]

In many of the killings, the "mentally ill" person used weapons stored in the home by another member of the family. This will happen again and again. How many egomaniacs store these weapons to have them available for the "ill" person to use? I think both are obsessed in some way. Whoops, is that you? Sorry I offended you.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by evelyn218

In many of the killings, the "mentally ill" person used weapons stored in the home by another member of the family. This will happen again and again. How many egomaniacs store these weapons to have them available for the "ill" person to use? I think both are obsessed in some way. Whoops, is that you? Sorry I offended you.

In what way is the legitimate owner of a gun or two, exercising his/her constitutional rights, either "obsessed" or an "egomaniac"? But they should be responsible enough to secure their weapon from "mentally ill" family members

[billethkid]

Maybe we should know how many of the countries named above or below (take your pick) are in the same statistical category or how many are countries that enforce the laws of the land (or inour case NOT!).

Really not a valid comparison without knowing all the other parameters that make up comparable comparisons or not.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by tomwed

So I wanted to do a little research on the second amendment, when it was written and what life was like back than including the firearms. I found out the most sophisticated gun was a repeating air rifle. It could hold 40 balls, was rifled and could put a 1 inch hole in a 1 inch piece of pine a hundred yards away. Shortly after the second amendment was written Lewis an Clark had 1 of these rifles on their expedition. It is believed that the Indians did not wipe them out because they weren't sure how many of these rifles the party was carrying.

Compressed air rifles were so effective that Napoleon directed that any member of an opposing army who was found to have one was to be executed on the spot.

Brief history of air guns.

Another deadly fast-shooting firearm that pre-dates the Second Amendment was the Puckle Gun. Gives the lie to the liberal contention that only muzzle loading single shot rifles were around at the time.

[dillywho]

Instead of obsessing on not having legally owned weapons in a home so that a mentally ill family member might get his/her hands on said weapons, my question is: "WHY are they not getting help for those family members who are ill?" Would they not seek help if that person contracted any other disease like measles, whooping cough, flu, cancer, etc.? Mental illness is a disease, not something to be hidden or denied. It is not a shame to be mentally ill; to not be treated for it is. If anyone knows something is wrong and makes no effort to address the problem, then they are the ones at fault......not the mentally ill person.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by dillywho

Instead of obsessing on not having legally owned weapons in a home so that a mentally ill family member might get his/her hands on said weapons, my question is: "WHY are they not getting help for those family members who are ill?" Would they not seek help if that person contracted any other disease like measles, whooping cough, flu, cancer, etc.? Mental illness is a disease, not something to be hidden or denied. It is not a shame to be mentally ill; to not be treated for it is. If anyone knows something is wrong and makes no effort to address the problem, then they are the ones at fault......not the mentally ill person.

Almost impossible in our permissive, anything goes, don't offend anybody, by all means do not get involved society.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Well ponder this....