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Taltarzac725 04-21-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Irish Rover (Post 482029)
I think the state is playing to the press, the mob, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson. Change the law so "stand your ground" won't be a factor in the future.

Depends on which media. Some seem to be very heavily favoring Zimmerman while others are very much on the side of Trayvon Martin.

buggyone 04-21-2012 08:59 AM

Zimmerman may be guilty or may be innocent. I am not going to speculate one way or another.

The main question is whether or not Zimmerman would be in this predicament if he had obeyed the police operator and not followed Martin? Answer is: NO.

Guilty of murder? I don't know? Guilty of stupidity? YES.

Will his life or his parent's lives ever be the same again? NO.

Bucco 04-21-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 482026)
Are you saying the photos of Zimmerman's head are doctored? Your post isn't really coherent so I'm not sure if that is what you are saying.

Perhaps like NBC doctored the tapes ?????? These folks should REPORT the news and stop trying to create the news.

bkcunningham1 04-21-2012 09:20 AM

There is a murder case in Florida, in Brevard County, that I'm wondering if anyone else has followed. I wonder why this case hasn't been a campaign for those who took up the Trayvon Martin cause. Not to demean Martin by any stretch. Just trying to understand why one case can become a cause and another, which is just as tragic and sad, isn't mentioned.

"Friends and family huddled alongside crime scene tape in south Melbourne early Thursday wondering who would kill a man known as 'Peanut.'

"Police, responding to a report of gunshots being fired about 5 a.m., found Henry Lee Montgomery, 48, dead at his home in the 2800 block of Colbert Circle, according to Sgt. Trevor Shaffer, a spokesman for Melbourne Police Department.

“ 'He would help anybody,' Montgomery’s brother, Cliff Cain, said. 'For somebody to mess with him over like that … Most anybody around here, he had helped.'

"The fatal incident came after a series of shootings nearby. There have been at least three other shootings, which wounded two people, in the area since April 7.

"The Powell Subdivision Neighborhood Watch, which had a regular meeting Thursday night, discussed the topic with local police.

"Melbourne and Palm Bay police officers reported good news: They had identified the juveniles responsible for the three earlier shootings. However, the victims did not want to prosecute and there wasn't much more police could do in those cases...."



http://www.floridatoday.com/article/...mg%7CFRONTPAGE

manaboutown 04-21-2012 09:27 AM

The pressure was on to charge Zimmerman due to the disinformation such as the doctored 911 tape created by the main stream media. The fire was fuled by the usual cast of racial agitators, Jackson, Sharpton and the like. Perhaps the state decided to prosecute to avert riots and the consequences of such. Too, Zimmerman's life was and is in danger. Some very bad people are out for his head.

buggyone 04-21-2012 09:45 AM

bkcunningham wondered, "There is a murder case in Florida, in Brevard County, that I'm wondering if anyone else has followed. I wonder why this case hasn't been a campaign for those who took up the Trayvon Martin cause."

The police in the Brevard County murder do not have a suspect. The Trayvon Martin shooting was an admitted killing by Zimmerman. The two cases are not at all the same.

The Brevard County police say they are looking for a murder suspect. What more can be done?

paulandjean 04-21-2012 11:01 AM

Who are the very bad people out for his head???

CMANN 04-21-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 482049)
Depends on which media. Some seem to be very heavily favoring Zimmerman while others are very much on the side of Trayvon Martin.

The news media that seem to favor Zimmerman (ABC) are reporting the facts in the case. Those anti Zimmerman (NBC/MSNBC) are hyping up the story with hate speech and race baiting.

CMANN 04-21-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 482073)
Zimmerman may be guilty or may be innocent. I am not going to speculate one way or another.

The main question is whether or not Zimmerman would be in this predicament if he had obeyed the police operator and not followed Martin? Answer is: NO.

Guilty of murder? I don't know? Guilty of stupidity? YES.

Will his life or his parent's lives ever be the same again? NO.

Guitly of defending himself from an attack by a minority? New crime: Self-defense while white.

Taltarzac725 04-21-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CMANN (Post 482150)
The news media that seem to favor Zimmerman (ABC) are reporting the facts in the case. Those anti Zimmerman (NBC/MSNBC) are hyping up the story with hate speech and race baiting.

It just looks to me though that ABC scooped the other channels by getting a picture taken by someone who heard the Zimmerman/Martin fight. Someone though who obstructed justice by not giving this picture to the investigators. Otherwise, this picture would have showed up a lot sooner in the media.

This is a question more of money than facts. Money given to the witness of the fight by ABC.

It is mostly the far right media that is defending Zimmerman not so much NBC/MSNBC, CBS, etc.

CMANN 04-21-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 482159)
It just looks to me though that ABC scooped the other channels by getting a picture taken by someone who heard the Zimmerman/Martin fight. Someone though who obstructed justice by not giving this picture to the investigators. Otherwise, this picture would have showed up a lot sooner in the media.

This is a question more of money than facts. Money given to the witness of the fight from ABC.

It is not just that picture. ABC has been reporting on the facts in the case as they are known and keeping opinion seperate.

Bogie Shooter 04-21-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 482140)
Who are the very bad people out for his head???

The new black panther's.

CMANN 04-21-2012 11:25 AM

After everything I have seen and heard I sincerely believe that Zimmerman was arrested contrary to Florida law. The purpose of the stand your ground law is to provide production to the defender in the event that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on his part. The police at the scene with the exception of one believed that Zimmerman had acted in self-defense and that the evidence showed that to be true. In addition at the time there was no evidence contrary to Zimmerman self-defense claim. The only time that it was considered any evidence of wrongdoing was after racial pressure from the race baiters Of the United States. This section is in direct contradiction to the Florida law, in my opinion.

Let's hope that we do not have a reverse of Casey Anthony case.

janmcn 04-21-2012 11:40 AM

George Zimmerman looked like he is about five feet tall standing next to his attorney. Perhaps that's why he felt a need to carry a Glock 9mm, to make up for his other inadequacies.

manaboutown 04-21-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CMANN (Post 482156)
Guitly of defending himself from an attack by a minority? New crime: Self-defense while white.

Actually George Zimmerman is of mixed race.

By the way, Zimmerman's mother noted that her son worked with two black children as part of a mentoring program in a dangerous area. When she asked him why he did it he told her "If I don't do it they don't have nobody."


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