Originally Posted by Guest

We never would have won. It is next to impossible for a power from the outside to defeat a determined, native insurgency. We would have won a lot of battles (as we did) but we still would have lost. History bears it out.

...and the strongest nation lost to a third world country.

You are 100% right. The Russians lost big time in Afghanistan and the US has not won either. Those guerilla warriors have not been defeated in any enemy invasion going back in time to Alexander The Great.

MDLBQ definitely is a slow learner if he believes the US would squash the North Korea forces like bugs. Ask any of the veterans of the Korean War. There are now millions more of the North Koreans all brainwashed into dying for their lunatic leader. Our lunatic leader would not be able to get the same number of troops willing to die for him.

#not my president

Originally Posted by RubiTHECon

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

What I can say in all honesty ,sincerity and factually about you is that you are consistently and remarkably ineffective in your analysis.

First of all, please save yourself future embarrassment and drop the "Dear" as no one, not even yourself, believes you mean it...and you simply broadcast your falseness and pseudo-intellectualism when you do it.

Secondly, almost NOTHING you say is "honest, factual or sincere"...so you can save that embarrassment too.

Originally Posted by RubiTHECon

In one sentence Iran is by far a greater concern than Syria and North Korea combined. I am not gong to do your homework check it out yourself but I'll offer some clues.

1) the agreement between United States and Iran is inherently and dangerously flawed allowing them carte blanche, so that Iran doesn't even have to break the agreement and can achieve more in the open than Syria and North Korea can under the shadow of darkness.

2) Unlike Syria and North Korea and their allies Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world and openly stated it would destroy another nation, Israel

3) because of the situation described in #2 Netanyahu believes Iran is 50 times more dangerous than North Korea and he said many more times than Syria... Now stop and think. If Iran goes to war with Israel what would America's position be?

Where to even start?

Let's try the fact that this thread is about North Korea and not a relative comparison...of which nation is a "greater concern."

That you have tried, once again, to obfuscate with your inability to present a cogent argument and/or stay on topic...is not really surprising.

That you think just because you say something, it must be factual...is also not surprising.

And neither is your example of the leader of a country right next to Iran and completely out of reach of North Korea...saying that Iran is more dangerous than North Korea.

You suppose the leaders/populace of South Korea and Japan...would agree with Netanyahu's statement?

In other words, you're less-than-bright attempt to justify your misdirection and off-topic post is (wait for it )...NOT surprising either.

However, since you've already brought it up, I'll call your bluff of one non-nuclear country that sponsors terrorists with mostly suicide vests and Toyota Hilux pickup trucks with 50 cal's in the bed...and raise you a nuclear country within striking distance of almost 180 MILLION people (Japan/S. Korea combined).

Not to mention that Japan's $4.38 TRILLION (USD) ranks 3rd in the world and South Korea's $1.38 TRILLION (USD) ranks 11th in the world...while Israel's GDP is $299 billion (USD) ranks 36th in the world.

So not only are we talking a HUGE difference in population...but also how it would affect the world's finance centers & economies.

Japan vs South Korea vs Israel - Country Facts Comparison

So, tell us all again how a NON-NUCLEAR country who is an immediate threat to 8.5 Million people (Israel's population), is so much worse than a NUCLEAR armed country, with a narcissistic sociopath leading it...that is within striking range of 180 Million people.

I really want to hear this.

Let me warn you though, since you NEVER provide proof to your bloviating and you've already buried yourself with embarrassment...this would be an excellent time for you to review the 'Rule Of Holes.'


'When you're in one...STOP digging.'

Originally Posted by RubiTHECon

Deep sincere wishes you may not always be right but you are always" Deep Sincere Wishes" Please share this post with your tag team partner( ie speak among yourselves)

Personal Best Regards:

I don't "share" anything with Rocky, except an agreement that you are the most self-absorbed, arrogant (totally unwarranted based on your posts)...and delusional poster here.

You DO crack me up though, given that your pseudo-intellectualism is so strikingly borne of desperation...as to almost garner a little empathy.


Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by Guest

We never would have won. It is next to impossible for a power from the outside to defeat a determined, native insurgency. We would have won a lot of battles (as we did) but we still would have lost. History bears it out.

You MUST kill EVERYONE. That is how you win...it's the ONLY way to win. Like in the old days...kill everyone or enslave them. Otherwise, they'll fight you forever.

The point you miss is that perpetual "war" is what they want. You think it's an accident we never ended the Korean war?

We haven't "declared war" officially since WWII.

Declaration of war by the United States - Wikipedia

Originally Posted by Guest

First of all, please save yourself future embarrassment and drop the "Dear" as no one, not even yourself, believes you mean it...and you simply broadcast your falseness and pseudo-intellectualism when you do it.

Secondly, almost NOTHING you say is "honest, factual or sincere"...so you can save that embarrassment too.







Where to even start?

Let's try the fact that this thread is about North Korea and not a relative comparison...of which nation is a "greater concern."

That you have tried, once again, to obfuscate with your inability to present a cogent argument and/or stay on topic...is not really surprising.

That you think just because you say something, it must be factual...is also not surprising.

And neither is your example of the leader of a country right next to Iran and completely out of reach of North Korea...saying that Iran is more dangerous than North Korea.

You suppose the leaders/populace of South Korea and Japan...would agree with Netanyahu's statement?

In other words, you're less-than-bright attempt to justify your misdirection and off-topic post is (wait for it )...NOT surprising either.

However, since you've already brought it up, I'll call your bluff of one non-nuclear country that sponsors terrorists with mostly suicide vests and Toyota Hilux pickup trucks with 50 cal's in the bed...and raise you a nuclear country within striking distance of almost 180 MILLION people (Japan/S. Korea combined).

Not to mention that Japan's $4.38 TRILLION (USD) ranks 3rd in the world and South Korea's $1.38 TRILLION (USD) ranks 11th in the world...while Israel's GDP is $299 billion (USD) ranks 36th in the world.

So not only are we talking a HUGE difference in population...but also how it would affect the world's finance centers & economies.

Japan vs South Korea vs Israel - Country Facts Comparison

So, tell us all again how a NON-NUCLEAR country who is an immediate threat to 8.5 Million people (Israel's population), is so much worse than a NUCLEAR armed country, with a narcissistic sociopath leading it...that is within striking range of 180 Million people.

I really want to hear this.

Let me warn you though, since you NEVER provide proof to your bloviating and you've already buried yourself with embarrassment...this would be an excellent time for you to review the 'Rule Of Holes.'


'When you're in one...STOP digging.'





I don't "share" anything with Rocky, except an agreement that you are the most self-absorbed, arrogant (totally unwarranted based on your posts)...and delusional poster here.

You DO crack me up though, given that your pseudo-intellectualism is so strikingly borne of desperation...as to almost garner a little empathy.


Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

You may not always be right but your always Deepest sincere Wishes. I noticed that you ignored the theme of this topic. The issue was we are on the verge of..... what I asked originally was define "verge". what I followed with was that no one in this conversation spoke to Iran and based on how active Iran is in sponsoring terrorism, etc they are the real aggressors not N Korea nor Syria. Iran is the real threat here because N Korea and Syria are primarily involved in internal conflicts..and by the way did you happen to notice that N Korea's latest test failed.

Naturally, never should caution be tossed to the wind but I am not suggesting that. However a more reasonable and realistic outlook point to Iran as very troubling.

Your vitriolic attacks on me are very telling.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by RubiTHECon

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

You may not always be right but your always Deepest sincere Wishes. I noticed that you ignored the theme of this topic. The issue was we are on the verge of..... what I asked originally was define "verge". what I followed with was that no one in this conversation spoke to Iran and based on how active Iran is in sponsoring terrorism, etc they are the real aggressors not N Korea nor Syria. Iran is the real threat here because N Korea and Syria are primarily involved in internal conflicts..and by the way did you happen to notice that N Korea's latest test failed.

Naturally, never should caution be tossed to the wind but I am not suggesting that. However a more reasonable and realistic outlook point to Iran as very troubling.

Your vitriolic attacks on me are very telling.

Personal Best Regards:

Dear Con,

You are almost never correct, but that doesn't seem to stop you from trying to obfuscate, misdirect and change the subject, in attempts to hide your pseudo-intellectualism...and is much more telling.

I simply eviscerated your asinine previous post, with facts and links...no vitriol present.

You're lack of knowledge, credibility and cognitive thinking elicits great mirth...not vitriol.

You're neither credible, nor smart enough...to become vitriolic towards.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Looks like the (unt got her thesaurus out again...

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Originally Posted by Guest

You obviously are a slow learner. And making a point intellectually is not in the cards.

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And there you have it, folks. An intellectual retort from another liberal with no explanation as to why he disagrees. Typical liberal.

Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

What I can say in all honesty ,sincerity and factually about you is that you are consistently and remarkably ineffective in your analysis.

In one sentence Iran is by far a greater concern than Syria and North Korea combined. I am not gong to do your homework check it out yourself but I'll offer some clues.

1) the agreement between United States and Iran is inherently and dangerously flawed allowing them carte blanche, so that Iran doesn't even have to break the agreement and can achieve more in the open than Syria and North Korea can under the shadow of darkness.

2) Unlike Syria and North Korea and their allies Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world and openly stated it would destroy another nation, Israel

3) because of the situation described in #2 Netanyahu believes Iran is 50 times more dangerous than North Korea and he said many more times than Syria... Now stop and think. If Iran goes to war with Israel what would America's position be?

Deep sincere wishes you may not always be right but you are always" Deep Sincere Wishes" Please share this post with your tag team partner( ie speak among yourselves)

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Con,

You are almost never correct, but that doesn't seem to stop you from trying to obfuscate, misdirect and change the subject, in attempts to hide your pseudo-intellectualism...and is much more telling.

I simply eviscerated your asinine previous post, with facts and links...no vitriol present.

You're lack of knowledge, credibility and cognitive thinking elicits great mirth...not vitriol.

You're neither credible, nor smart enough...to become vitriolic towards.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Despite being given the courtesy and opportunity of friendly reminders by other posters you continue with the poor alinsky version of vitriolic and shaming as a basis for your responses.

You admonish me for insincerity with my use of the word "Dear" but lose sight of the fact that every one of your Political Talk posts ends with your identification signature "Deepest Sincere Wishes". An identification signature mimicking my "Personal Best Regards, I might add

You repeatedly and continually refer to me as pseudo-intellectual and I respond in a sotto voce manner "Deepest is thinking wow this guy is smarter than me". You can define me anyway you wish. However what I am not is over emotional, nor do I have a propensity toward personal attacks .

Once again I harbor you no ill will and I will always respond civilly unless force to do otherwise in which case I am quite capable of responding in kind.

In another matter you have told me that you are not a member of a tag team. I take you at your word and will never raise that issue again.

PS Again, Iran is the bad actor to watch because they continue to cross their borders to enact their jihad.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by RubiTHECon

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Despite being given the courtesy and opportunity of friendly reminders by other posters you continue with the poor alinsky version of vitriolic and shaming as a basis for your responses.

You admonish me for insincerity with my use of the word "Dear" but lose sight of the fact that every one of your Political Talk posts ends with your identification signature "Deepest Sincere Wishes". An identification signature mimicking my "Personal Best Regards, I might add

You repeatedly and continually refer to me as pseudo-intellectual and I respond in a sotto voce manner "Deepest is thinking wow this guy is smarter than me". You can define me anyway you wish. However what I am not is over emotional, nor do I have a propensity toward personal attacks .

Once again I harbor you no ill will and I will always respond civilly unless force to do otherwise in which case I am quite capable of responding in kind.

In another matter you have told me that you are not a member of a tag team. I take you at your word and will never raise that issue again.

PS Again, Iran is the bad actor to watch because they continue to cross their borders to enact their jihad.

Personal Best Regards:

LOL

You really have a high opinion of yourself...that is totally divorced from reality.

That you believe you're supposedly 'civil,' yet take every opportunity to denigrate anyone who doesn't share your extreme right positions...is beyond pathetic.

No wonder you have a bromance with Trump, since you both share a lot of the most disgusting personality traits...a decent human can have.

And by the way, I personally harbor no ill will toward you either.

If the truth be known, I actually feel a bit sorry for you as it is apparent that you've spent your life trying to live up to something you can never achieve...which is intelligent discourse based on cognitive thinking and an ability to evaluate both sides disparately.

That you always slink right back to your simpleton views proves that and here's a big hint, calling you the 'pseudo-intellectual' that you are is NOT a compliment...and you are far from my equal in that arena.

As to Iran being a bad actor...NO ONE stated that they weren't.

I'm not sure if maybe you think people can't go back and read what you said, but your original point was to try and state how much worse the Iran situation is than North Korea and after I eviscerated that argument (with links/proof)...now you're saying that you were only trying to say that Iran is a "bad actor?"

Do you really believe folks are dumb enough to believe your outright lying and attempt at obfuscation/misdirection...when they can read for themselves what you've said?



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by Guest

LOL

You really have a high opinion of yourself...that is totally divorced from reality.

That you believe you're supposedly 'civil,' yet take every opportunity to denigrate anyone who doesn't share your extreme right positions...is beyond pathetic.

No wonder you have a bromance with Trump, since you both share a lot of the most disgusting personality traits...a decent human can have.

And by the way, I personally harbor no ill will toward you either.

If the truth be known, I actually feel a bit sorry for you as it is apparent that you've spent your life trying to live up to something you can never achieve...which is intelligent discourse based on cognitive thinking and an ability to evaluate both sides disparately.

That you always slink right back to your simpleton views proves that and here's a big hint, calling you the 'pseudo-intellectual' that you are is NOT a compliment...and you are far from my equal in that arena.

As to Iran being a bad actor...NO ONE stated that they weren't.

I'm not sure if maybe you think people can't go back and read what you said, but your original point was to try and state how much worse the Iran situation is than North Korea and after I eviscerated that argument (with links/proof)...now you're saying that you were only trying to say that Iran is a "bad actor?"

Do you really believe folks are dumb enough to believe your outright lying and attempt at obfuscation/misdirection...when they can read for themselves what you've said?



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Many people who do not post on this forum have a high opinion of Rubicon. At two gatherings (each about 30 people) in the last month, the political forum was brought up and not one person and they were from both political parties, not one person had anything to say about Rubicon but positive things. However, there was much said about several other people who post a lot on here. I wasn't surprised with their assessments because that is how I see these people too.

You can dress some folks up, but you can't bring them home to mother.

Originally Posted by Guest

Many people who do not post on this forum have a high opinion of Rubicon. At two gatherings (each about 30 people) in the last month, the political forum was brought up and not one person and they were from both political parties, not one person had anything to say about Rubicon but positive things. However, there was much said about several other people who post a lot on here. I wasn't surprised with their assessments because that is how I see these people too.

You can dress some folks up, but you can't bring them home to mother.

Your point is WHAT ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Despite being given the courtesy and opportunity of friendly reminders by other posters you continue with the poor alinsky version of vitriolic and shaming as a basis for your responses.

You admonish me for insincerity with my use of the word "Dear" but lose sight of the fact that every one of your Political Talk posts ends with your identification signature "Deepest Sincere Wishes". An identification signature mimicking my "Personal Best Regards, I might add

You repeatedly and continually refer to me as pseudo-intellectual and I respond in a sotto voce manner "Deepest is thinking wow this guy is smarter than me". You can define me anyway you wish. However what I am not is over emotional, nor do I have a propensity toward personal attacks .

Once again I harbor you no ill will and I will always respond civilly unless force to do otherwise in which case I am quite capable of responding in kind.

In another matter you have told me that you are not a member of a tag team. I take you at your word and will never raise that issue again.

PS Again, Iran is the bad actor to watch because they continue to cross their borders to enact their jihad.

Personal Best Regards:

I agree....LONG TERM Iran is the threat.

HOWEVER, in the now...present, where we live. We can destroy Nirth Korea and they really cannot hurt our borders....

BUT

we are giving this young person in North Korea exactly what he wants...attention. He thrives on that and has been seeking that for years. Trump is giving him that attention.

The fear is NOT anything, but we guess at what weapons he has, but my guess is he could care less whether his country is destroyed....but he could wipe a few ships off the face of the earth, and who knows the damage that might occur in Japan or South Korea, or even China.

Iran nobody will disagree, although I suggest Russia, perhaps not nuclear is a bigger problem long term, but to be blind to the current great from North Korea is truely blind.

Originally Posted by Guest

Your point is WHAT ?

I think she might be saying that some people on this forum may want to take a good look in the mirror. The problem may not be Rubicon.

Originally Posted by Graceless

Many people who do not post on this forum have a high opinion of Rubicon. At two gatherings (each about 30 people) in the last month, the political forum was brought up and not one person and they were from both political parties, not one person had anything to say about Rubicon but positive things. However, there was much said about several other people who post a lot on here. I wasn't surprised with their assessments because that is how I see these people too.

You can dress some folks up, but you can't bring them home to mother.

And those same people probably like insecure, passive-aggressive...two-faced obese twits.

I rest my case.


Deepest Sincere Wishes: