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Guest 11-23-2015 06:41 PM

Perhaps what the poster who believes that everything was created by God and not evolution means to say - in his own roundabout way - is that he believes that each species, such as humans, have evolved as a species and not from a creature that evolved from the sea.

We know, for example, that rabbits of the Pacific coastal areas have evolved to be less endangered from the hematoxic venom of the Pacific rattlesnake. The rattlesnakes in only those areas now have their venom becoming neurotoxic to overcome the rabbit's partial immunity to the hematoxins. This clearly shows evolution at work within two separate species.

Humans have evolved from the Neanthradral types through many stages to become what we are today.

Guest 11-23-2015 06:51 PM

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Obviously, our Presbyterian poster misinterpreted the article. The only evolution that is acknowledged is the evolution of intellect in man. It still states that God created man. Until I read the article, I was going to say that this religion was not a Christian faith but a cult. Thank you for providing that link so that I could see that it was the poster that was in error, not the religion. Therefore, the article was another bit of evidence endorsing divine creation.


Not quite. What the Pope (actually, every Pope since Pius XII in 1950), The Presbyterian Church and Billy Graham all say is that they do not see a conflict between the story of Creation and the science of evolution. This concept is called theistic evolution.

Guest 11-23-2015 07:42 PM

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Not quite. What the Pope (actually, every Pope since Pius XII in 1950), The Presbyterian Church and Billy Graham all say is that they do not see a conflict between the story of Creation and the science of evolution. This concept is called theistic evolution.

There's a big difference between what they say to be PC and what the evolution theory folks believe. Not one of them believes that man evolved from another species. Every one of them believes the Bible version, which states that man was created. Period. There is NO science of evolution because it is just a theory that has never been proven to be fact. This is going nowhere and way off the thread. Carson was the thread, and since I do not plan to vote for him anyway, I only interjected because of the poster that arrogantly dismissed the factual basis of creation as being stupid. Well, the majority of Americans believe in Creation, and that evolution was just a theory never proven. We did not come from monkeys, fish or mushrooms. We were created and the only thing that anyone will concede as far as evolution is the evolution of knowledge. If one does not believe in Creation, then he is NOT a Christian, period. Because if one does not believe in the Bible as factual then he does not believe in Christ.

The atheist liberals on here would just as soon divert to arguing religion, rather than politics because they know that their party is in grave trouble right now. Hilary has dropped so far in the poles that the only Republican candidate that isn't beating her is Carly Fiorina and even she is even with her in the polls. On top of that, there is now a problem with the manipulation of intelligence in this administration. That reflects badly on this administration.

Guest 11-23-2015 08:00 PM

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There's a big difference between what they say to be PC and what the evolution theory folks believe. Not one of them believes that man evolved from another species. Every one of them believes the Bible version, which states that man was created. .

You honestly believe there was a Garden of Eden and that Adam and Eve were the only two humans on Earth until kicked out? Did they speak English?

Cain left also after killing his brother and went out to form other families. Where did those people come from and who were they?

All cultures have such similar folktales.

Will you concede that humans evolved as a species such as Neandrathal cavemen through many eons to what modern man is like?

How do you explain that chimpanzees and human DNA is 98 percent identical?

Guest 11-23-2015 09:27 PM

Wait, all the paintings of Adam and Eve show them with belly buttons. Something's not right.

Guest 11-23-2015 09:31 PM

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Wait, all the paintings of Adam and Eve show them with belly buttons. Something's not right.

That is something I never thought of before. That is a hoot! :BigApplause:

Guest 11-23-2015 10:22 PM

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You honestly believe there was a Garden of Eden and that Adam and Eve were the only two humans on Earth until kicked out? Did they speak English?

Cain left also after killing his brother and went out to form other families. Where did those people come from and who were they?

All cultures have such similar folktales.

Will you concede that humans evolved as a species such as Neandrathal cavemen through many eons to what modern man is like?

How do you explain that chimpanzees and human DNA is 98 percent identical?

Calling one's religion a "folk tale" is treading on dangerous ground. Interesting how you liberals will defend Muslims and slur Christians.

Yes, I do believe the Bible.
No, I do not believe in evolution. Perhaps you did evolve from a monkey, but I didn't. How did that happen? Why did you evolve and the monkey remained the same? Where is the missing link between you and the monkey? Why is there no further evolving? Why are we the only species that can reason with a language and not just mimic? No, you can't prove evolution.

Tell you what, you keep researching evolution and I will continue to browse the politics forum and discuss the topic. You can continue to divert each topic to whatever baiting topic you wish, but we only participate because we feel sorry for you.

If you wish to continue to discuss religion, why not ask the question of what religious beliefs Hilary might observe? Or, how about Sanders. Is he really a communist with an atheist bent? That would make him more your type of candidate. I am willing to believe that if you asked Hilary if she was religious, she would respond that she is a Christian. Obama will tell you a Christian, but by his definition, he is not. Of course, when in a Muslim country, he will tell them that he is one of them.

What Carson said 20 or 30 years ago, may be different than how he feels now. According to your philosophy, he could be evolving. You give that excuse for Obama whenever he flip-flops on an issue. I can see that Carson saying he is a religious person really bothers you. Perhaps you should explore the reasoning for that.

Guest 11-23-2015 10:25 PM

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Wait, all the paintings of Adam and Eve show them with belly buttons. Something's not right.

Well Chi, maybe those paintings were not photographs so they were not accurate. Maybe they used someone else besides the real Adam and Eve for their models. I bet my granddaughter would be able to give you an answer.

Guest 11-23-2015 10:33 PM

Humans share 50% DNA with bananas.

Guest 11-24-2015 06:31 AM

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Wait, all the paintings of Adam and Eve show them with belly buttons. Something's not right.

This is not any longer the Political Forum...

It is now the MOCK CHRISTIANITY FORUM and get a few laughs.

Recalling all the defense of Muslims, and others where bigot was the charge if you even made a minor comment, it surely has "gone" a long way.

We have gone rapidly from making fun of ones politics to now, something I never thought we would see, making fun of others religions.

Guest 11-24-2015 07:03 AM

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This is not any longer the Political Forum...

It is now the MOCK CHRISTIANITY FORUM and get a few laughs.

Recalling all the defense of Muslims, and others where bigot was the charge if you even made a minor comment, it surely has "gone" a long way.

We have gone rapidly from making fun of ones politics to now, something I never thought we would see, making fun of others religions.

:agree:

Guest 11-24-2015 08:02 AM

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Calling one's religion a "folk tale" is treading on dangerous ground. Interesting how you liberals will defend Muslims and slur Christians.

Yes, I do believe the Bible.
No, I do not believe in evolution. .

You sure do like to pick apart a statement, pick a phrase, and then make a different statement. I said that the story of Adam and Eve in a Garden of Eden was a folk tale - not that Christanity was a folk tale. if you want to be ridiculous and believe in a white European Adam and Eve while there are plenty of fossils of Neanthradrals, go right ahead. Where did the ther people come from that Cain went off with and intermarried?

You would probably be offended if you were told that Jesus was not 6 feet tall, had blond hair and blue eyes. Right?

Guest 11-24-2015 09:08 AM

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You sure do like to pick apart a statement, pick a phrase, and then make a different statement. I said that the story of Adam and Eve in a Garden of Eden was a folk tale - not that Christanity was a folk tale. if you want to be ridiculous and believe in a white European Adam and Eve while there are plenty of fossils of Neanthradrals, go right ahead. Where did the ther people come from that Cain went off with and intermarried?

You would probably be offended if you were told that Jesus was not 6 feet tall, had blond hair and blue eyes. Right?

Read the posts.

The sarcasm, put downs, insulting and calling people stupid on their beliefs is something you do not find much anywhere. "NITWIT" because you believe in creation, etc.

When a person mocks what they don't believe or understand, they show no signs of civility. Their actions say far more about their own level of ignorance and/or lack of upbringing than their jokes convey about the religious beliefs they feel deserve their poor attempt at wit.

Guest 11-24-2015 09:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1150304)
Read the posts.

The sarcasm, put downs, insulting and calling people stupid on their beliefs is something you do not find much anywhere. "NITWIT" because you believe in creation, etc.

When a person mocks what they don't believe or understand, they show no signs of civility. Their actions say far more about their own level of ignorance and/or lack of upbringing than their jokes convey about the religious beliefs they feel deserve their poor attempt at wit.

Perfect!

Guest 11-24-2015 12:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1150304)
Read the posts.

The sarcasm, put downs, insulting and calling people stupid on their beliefs is something you do not find much anywhere. "NITWIT" because you believe in creation, etc.

When a person mocks what they don't believe or understand, they show no signs of civility. Their actions say far more about their own level of ignorance and/or lack of upbringing than their jokes convey about the religious beliefs they feel deserve their poor attempt at wit.

You obviously have NO answers for what was posted regarding the folktale of a white European Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and of your concept in a 6 foot tall, blond haired, blue eyed Jesus.

Give your answers to the fossils of Neanderthal man and how humans have evolved within their species to become modern man. Surely, you can do that.

Guest 11-24-2015 12:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1150395)
You obviously have NO answers for what was posted regarding the folktale of a white European Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and of your concept in a 6 foot tall, blond haired, blue eyed Jesus.

Give your answers to the fossils of Neanderthal man and how humans have evolved within their species to become modern man. Surely, you can do that.

Never proven. All you can do is repeat something someone told you, not factual information. There are no/NO fossils of animal or fish morphing into human form. So, provide some proof or admit that you are voicing your opinion.

Take a car engine apart and shake all the parts together in a box. How long do you suppose it would be before it assembled into a working machine? Now, look at the human eye and tell me that you could evolve something as intricate. Everything was created in detail, not evolved. I have yet to see any other planet with evolved life forms. God created us whether or not you want to believe it.

Guest 11-24-2015 12:58 PM

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Never proven. All you can do is repeat something someone told you, not factual information. There are no/NO fossils of animal or fish morphing into human form. So, provide some proof or admit that you are voicing your opinion.

No, humans did not morph from animals or fish. That is not what evolution is about.

Check out the very informational website from the Smithsonian Institution at humanorigins.si.edu. Read it all. Read it with an open mind.

Guest 11-24-2015 01:38 PM

You think they might read something factual? My, you are optimistic. If it doesn't jive with their thoughts on religion, they will label it socialist propaganda, misconstrued by the liberal media.

Guest 11-24-2015 01:46 PM

I attended a Jesuit university and they taught Mendel, Huxley, and Darwin in science, not theology.

Guest 11-24-2015 03:02 PM

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I attended a Jesuit university and they taught Mendel, Huxley, and Darwin in science, not theology.

Sure you did, chi.

Guest 11-24-2015 03:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1150395)
You obviously have NO answers for what was posted regarding the folktale of a white European Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and of your concept in a 6 foot tall, blond haired, blue eyed Jesus.

Give your answers to the fossils of Neanderthal man and how humans have evolved within their species to become modern man. Surely, you can do that.

So, you are a bigot. Liberals like to dish it out, but I wonder how they like it when they are confronted with a mirror.

Guest 11-24-2015 03:32 PM

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So, you are a bigot. Liberals like to dish it out, but I wonder how they like it when they are confronted with a mirror.

What in the world is bigoted when saying that the folktale pictures depicting a white Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden - or a 6 foot tall, blond haired, blue eyed Jesus is ridiculous?

Jesus would have been short by todays standard, dark curly haired, dark eyes and have an olive colored skin.

Where were the other people in the world located at the time of Adam and Eve? There had to be others so Cain could intermarry with them.

If there was no evolution, where did the different races come from? 'Splain, Lucy.

Guest 11-24-2015 06:14 PM

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What in the world is bigoted when saying that the folktale pictures depicting a white Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden - or a 6 foot tall, blond haired, blue eyed Jesus is ridiculous?

Jesus would have been short by todays standard, dark curly haired, dark eyes and have an olive colored skin.

Where were the other people in the world located at the time of Adam and Eve? There had to be others so Cain could intermarry with them.

If there was no evolution, where did the different races come from? 'Splain, Lucy.

Religious bigot. Anyone that doesn't agree with Obama is called a racist bigot. Anyone that does not agree with gay marriage is called a bigot. So, how does it feel?

Guest 11-24-2015 06:34 PM

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Religious bigot. Anyone that doesn't agree with Obama is called a racist bigot. Anyone that does not agree with gay marriage is called a bigot. So, how does it feel?


Anyhow, what do you say about the questions asked about the physical descriptions of Adam, Eve, and Jesus?

Where did the other races of humans come from if there was only one set of parents for all mankind?

Guest 11-24-2015 07:37 PM

This thread has become too boring.

Guest 11-24-2015 11:40 PM

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Anyhow, what do you say about the questions asked about the physical descriptions of Adam, Eve, and Jesus?

Where did the other races of humans come from if there was only one set of parents for all mankind?

Google is your friend. Try it.

Guest 11-25-2015 09:32 AM

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Well Chi, maybe those paintings were not photographs so they were not accurate. Maybe they used someone else besides the real Adam and Eve for their models. I bet my granddaughter would be able to give you an answer.

I think she just did.[emoji6]

Guest 11-25-2015 10:47 AM

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I think she just did.[emoji6]

The quipers and smart assets never go away.

Simply lurk waiting their turn to make their pals giggle.

Do you guys have actual "sleepovers" and spend evenings on here giggling ?

Guest 11-25-2015 11:08 AM

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The quipers and smart assets never go away.

Simply lurk waiting their turn to make their pals giggle.

Do you guys have actual "sleepovers" and spend evenings on here giggling ?

Sometimes the material is so rich it begs a little levity. No lurking necessary.

Guest 11-25-2015 11:09 AM

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I think she just did.[emoji6]

If that's true, then she probably has a better knowledge of the subject than you. She's in the majority of believers. But, keep on trolling friend. How else are you going to learn, if not from someone "telling" you?

Guest 11-25-2015 11:46 AM

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Sometimes the material is so rich it begs a little levity. No lurking necessary.

Interesting that you come here to find "material".

But then again, reading what those who are not worthy, in your opinion, I suppose to your group is "material".

I suppose an update is needed for dictionary to show "material" defined as things you do not agree with.

Guest 11-26-2015 09:30 PM

Like a poster said, Ben Carson's poll numbers have started spiraling down since all this talk of a West Point scholarship, pyramids, evolution, and his violent actions as a teen.

His flash in the pan is a thing of the past and he soon will be dropping out - just like Herman Cain did when he was running.

Guest 11-26-2015 09:46 PM

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Like a poster said, Ben Carson's poll numbers have started spiraling down since all this talk of a West Point scholarship, pyramids, evolution, and his violent actions as a teen.

His flash in the pan is a thing of the past and he soon will be dropping out - just like Herman Cain did when he was running.

The past doesn't matter. If it did, then Obama wouldn't have been elected. After all, he was a dope head all his life, and still had some radicals subsidize his education and political career. His association with a domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers didn't hurt his career in politics. His association with Soros hasn't hurt him. His association with a radical anti-white preacher has hurt him. His communist mentor, Frank Marshall Davis didn't hurt him. No, I don't think that Carson's past is that extreme in comparison. As a matter of fact, Obama has probably hurt Carson getting elected more than anything else. A lot of voters are gun shy after Obama's being the first and also a failure.

Guest 11-26-2015 10:50 PM

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The past doesn't matter. If it did, then Obama wouldn't have been elected. After all, he was a dope head all his life, and still had some radicals subsidize his education and political career. His association with a domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers didn't hurt his career in politics. His association with Soros hasn't hurt him. His association with a radical anti-white preacher has hurt him. His communist mentor, Frank Marshall Davis didn't hurt him. No, I don't think that Carson's past is that extreme in comparison. As a matter of fact, Obama has probably hurt Carson getting elected more than anything else. A lot of voters are gun shy after Obama's being the first and also a failure.

Dope head, domestic terrorist association, radical anti white association, communist indoctrination, and black. Radicals all around him all the while. And a two term President of the United States. What an episode of This Is Your Life this would make.

Guest 11-26-2015 10:55 PM

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Dope head, domestic terrorist association, radical anti white association, communist indoctrination, and black. Radicals all around him all the while. And a two term President of the United States. What an episode of This Is Your Life this would make.

We agree on that. Goes to show you that Americans are easily moved about like game pieces on a chess board, by the media. All the while oblivious of whats been going on about them.

Guest 11-27-2015 10:58 AM

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We agree on that. Goes to show you that Americans are easily moved about like game pieces on a chess board, by the media. All the while oblivious of whats been going on about them.

An unfortunate accurate assesment of too many of we the people.

Guest 12-03-2015 06:26 AM

Carson is down to third place now, well behind Trump.

Guest 12-03-2015 08:31 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1151374)
Like a poster said, Ben Carson's poll numbers have started spiraling down since all this talk of a West Point scholarship, pyramids, evolution, and his violent actions as a teen.

His flash in the pan is a thing of the past and he soon will be dropping out - just like Herman Cain did when he was running.

It wouldn't matter what he said of his past if he had Soros backing him. He would be a shoo in.


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