A special interest group with growing numbers manages to get it's wants visibility raised and because they are Latino and part of an agenda they get the visibility:

My Way News - Latino leader urges more businesses to cut ties from Trump

We the people need to take note of how those with a need create an issue.

Probably a poor choice of words as the reason we the people do not rise up to be counted is they are not personally involved hence it is not their problem hence back to the remote or the golf course.....what's the problem?

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A special interest group with growing numbers manages to get it's wants visibility raised and because they are Latino and part of an agenda they get the visibility:

My Way News - Latino leader urges more businesses to cut ties from Trump

We the people need to take note of how those with a need create an issue.

Probably a poor choice of words as the reason we the people do not rise up to be counted is they are not personally involved hence it is not their problem hence back to the remote or the golf course.....what's the problem?

other than this pot sounding incredibly bigoted, what's your point? please do not include me in that we the people!!!

Originally Posted by Guest

A special interest group with growing numbers manages to get it's wants visibility raised and because they are Latino and part of an agenda they get the visibility:

My Way News - Latino leader urges more businesses to cut ties from Trump

We the people need to take note of how those with a need create an issue.

Probably a poor choice of words as the reason we the people do not rise up to be counted is they are not personally involved hence it is not their problem hence back to the remote or the golf course.....what's the problem?

Activists groups like MOVEON....La Raza and a number of other left wing groups are spending lots of money on this campaign.

Heck, a guy named Angelo Carusone was on CNN professing and speaking of how Trump must go. Mr, Carusone is executive director of Media Matters, one of the furtherest left website that exist. CNN has refused to interview certain of right wing activists explaining that they are activists. DUH ?

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other than this pot sounding incredibly bigoted, what's your point? please do not include me in that we the people!!!

That post is not bigoted. The activists are financing and running all of the anti Trump petitions, etc. It is not a ground swell from the people.

The coverage of this situation is just terrible. Lot of it is Trumps fault, but please there is no bigotry at work here. EVERYTHING people feel does not take racial considerations. I think those that so easily seem to call out racist and bigot are the ones with serious problems.

Do your research, this is a well financed, well organized movement to shut him up.

Does it not get pretty old when your only political and social position is that if you do not agree with me or my side, then you are a racist and a bigot ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Activists groups like MOVEON....La Raza and a number of other left wing groups are spending lots of money on this campaign.

Heck, a guy named Angelo Carusone was on CNN professing and speaking of how Trump must go. Mr, Carusone is executive director of Media Matters, one of the furtherest left website that exist. CNN has refused to interview certain of right wing activists explaining that they are activists. DUH ?

Excellent idea regarding Trump. Dump Trump!

His plan to gain more fame really backfired. When the RNC (Regressive National Committee)Chairman says to back off and tone down the rhetoric, you know it backfired!

Originally Posted by Guest

That post is not bigoted. The activists are financing and running all of the anti Trump petitions, etc. It is not a ground swell from the people.

The coverage of this situation is just terrible. Lot of it is Trumps fault, but please there is no bigotry at work here. EVERYTHING people feel does not take racial considerations. I think those that so easily seem to call out racist and bigot are the ones with serious problems.

Do your research, this is a well financed, well organized movement to shut him up.

Does it not get pretty old when your only political and social position is that if you do not agree with me or my side, then you are a racist and a bigot ?

it is the only answer for bigots who then try to explain away their position, so no in appropriate situations it doesn't get old. I don't need to do research to know that what trump said is disgustingly bigoted, I don't need to do research to expect every latino group to attack him. do you get just as upset when the loonies in the tea party back things or only some special interests are bad when they disagree with you?

Originally Posted by Guest

Excellent idea regarding Trump. Dump Trump!

His plan to gain more fame really backfired. When the RNC (Regressive National Committee)Chairman says to back off and tone down the rhetoric, you know it backfired!

I suppose the twisting if words, lack of any facts (actually one poster said "I don't have to read anything.....") and need to call anyone who disagrees with you a bigot or racist, but suppose this is the norm for some.

The issue is immigration. Immigration is about folks from other countries coming to America. Thus, we will speak of people from other lands (foreigners) unless you can suggest another way. If that makes anyone with an opinion on whether the borders are tight enough, well that is everyone.


"Illegal immigrants were 20 percent of the kidnapping/hostage taking sentences in 2014, 12 percent of the murder sentences, and 19.4 percent of national-defense related sentences."

This is an exert from the FBI report, and let me be clear, numbers are bing massaged in the media on a frenzied basis either to show Trump or whomever is lying or right.

Is this what we want ? Or do we need a discussion of illegal immigration, which right or wrong will entail talking about minorities. This is almost like the movement in schools to not teach anything that might upset you....now we are saying it is bigoted to discuss ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS .

Think about that.

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it is the only answer for bigots who then try to explain away their position, so no in appropriate situations it doesn't get old. I don't need to do research to know that what trump said is disgustingly bigoted, I don't need to do research to expect every latino group to attack him. do you get just as upset when the loonies in the tea party back things or only some special interests are bad when they disagree with you?

Amen Brother!

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Amen Brother!

You do know we are discussing ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, right ?

You do understand that the majority come from Mexico and Central Americas, right ?

You do understand that these ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are committing crimes here in America, right ?

How, may I ask do you propose we discuss ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION without mentioning ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ?

I assume you also favor what is happening in the schools....if it offends you, you need not study it, true or not we do not want you upset. Or when disciplining you, even those you broke the rules, even though you did wrong, no problem, because hey...your background made you do it. So grow up and have this understanding that your race or ethnicity can help you avoid anything uncomfortable....great, huh

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. ...the good bad and ugly and that includes the crime rate that may or may not be done by those ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

Everyone knows how much good comes from immigration...not a question. Everyone knows that most immigrants are good hard working people...not a question. YET YOU SAY WE CANNOT DISCUSS WHAT IS THE PROBLEM

No wonder this country gets nowhere in discussing anything...the PA is stopping any meaningful discussion.

And understand, these ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS have a number of groups who are well financed and very active speaking for them and their interests.

We got nobody !

The response to Trump is the same response to the issue of the Confederate Flag or bakers whose conscience cannot bring them to bake a cake for a gay wedding. Its the old Alinksy rules at work by demonizing people and objects and working to eliminate from the face of the earth. NBC,Univision PGA, Macy's et al are playing useful idiots to fascist that want to set a radical progressive agenda. These fascist have moved from demonizing the Confederate Flag to now defacing confederate statutes. Today the south tomorrow you and me

These fascist progressive intend to re-write American history. They intend to move this country from nationalism to internationalism. They intend to replicate a European socialism/secularism society

Be afraid my friends be very afraid because the people pushing this agenda have a take no prisoner mentality. They are vicious, they are rich and they have the media and hollywood protecting their backs.

Now a piece of good news. But first a caveat of sorts. Attorneys know when the facts favor your side you argue the facts and when it is the law in your favor you argue the law. Politicians do the same thing with polling. Having said that Donald Trump listed in first place with a 16% in the Economist poll. While polls peak and valley it does underscore one point, some people like what Trump has to say maybe it is because he is telling it like it is.

Trump is making the Republican Establish nervous which makes me happy because the Republican need an epiphany if they intend to win in 2016

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

And understand, these ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS have a number of groups who are well financed and very active speaking for them and their interests.

We got nobody !

we got everybody else, what is that 90 percent of the population...

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we got everybody else, what is that 90 percent of the population...

Yep and that 90% is divided. A large active percentage speaks for them also, and those who do not are on the defensive.

Now I realize that is a generality for sure. But seriously activists are out there and if anyone steps on their toes, they will kill any chance of you getting their vote, and do whatever damage they can do to you.

Now on the surface, you might say...ok, they have groups who support them, so what.

Well, these groups want NO MERGING of the cultures. They want to be american citizens but NOT americans and they say it loud and clear (read some of the California newspapers on LaRaza, etc) They want to jump ahead of those who have waited to become american citizens and actually become american citizens.

It is a big deal, and as long as one group or another has the power, NOTHING will happen. And the group called american citizens cannot get out of the political tunnel they are in thus......

Sad thing is that americans, by and large, want to welcome these people to our country and allow them to enjoy, but the "in your face" attitude of just taking over is not normally well received in this country. To be in fear of political blowback in your OWN country for defending the borders and laws of your country is somehow a strange scenario. To be called a bigot or racist for that is indefensible.

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other than this pot sounding incredibly bigoted, what's your point? please do not include me in that we the people!!!

I just hate disappointing you but the intent is not bigoted.
You missed the point of the post, again or as usual....always....always...attempting to do your self assigned duty of being a contrarian.

Must make for life being a .

Zdravstvuj.Living in the big city I am also aware of other nationalities that have entered the country legally and know how to milk the system for maximum freebies. Waiting in the Doctors office I have seen patients from Russia go into a tirade because they had to wait twenty minutes beyond their scheduled appointments. They use taxpayer provided translators so they can be understood. I think the gimmick is to be sponsored coming into the country, then after one year the sponsor drops you on the system. This also includes housing. Most of these non latinos appear to be of senior citizen age.