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Old 06-23-2015, 06:46 AM
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Of course Roof is a deranged person. No one could doubt that. There were some friends of his who heard him rant about African Americans and it was up to him to do something like shoot up a campus. WHY didn't they call authorities? The man O'Reily talked to - WHY didn't he call someone right away after hearing Nazi rants from someone with a gun? Those are prime questions.

As for the battle flag - it was not the cause, of course, but like the Nazi flag, it is a symbol of hate. Some see either flaf as a symbol or tribute to brave soldiers who died for the beliefs in those flags. You did not answer about your reaction if a neighbor flew a large Nazi flag on his flagpole.

I suspect the SC legislators will decide to remove the battle flag from the statehouse grounds.

The main problem remains mentally ill people owning guns. It is not about too few guns, too many guns, but mentally ill people having guns AND no one willing to call authorities when they encounter a mentally ill person with a gun.

Ask yourself, if you were at Codys and talking to someone at the bar and he showed you his gun and started racial hate talk, would YOU call 911 right away?
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That was an amazing speech today by Governor Nikki Haley. Anyone who missed it, should find it now and watch it. She was on stage with a bi-partisan group of people, mostly elected officials.

It was a little unclear when this vote will be taken, but Haley did say that she will call a special session of the legislature later this summer if needed.

On a related note, President Obama and Vice President Biden will both travel to Charleston to attend the funeral of the SC senate member who was killed last Wednesday at Mother Emmanuel church. Obama will deliver his eulogy.
I have to say I'm not quite as impressed as you are the Governor of SC. Although the Confederate flag is understandly an emotional issue it doesn't even make it to the top 20 issues facing this country. There was talk this morning about her being a good VP pick. We love symbolism over substance. Imagine if she had taken on the NRA and insisted on tightening the ease in which anyone can obtain a handgun. That would be like bringing a skunk to the garden party would it not? There would be no VP talk that is for sure.
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Of course Roof is a deranged person. No one could doubt that. There were some friends of his who heard him rant about African Americans and it was up to him to do something like shoot up a campus. WHY didn't they call authorities? The man O'Reily talked to - WHY didn't he call someone right away after hearing Nazi rants from someone with a gun? Those are prime questions.

As for the battle flag - it was not the cause, of course, but like the Nazi flag, it is a symbol of hate. Some see either flaf as a symbol or tribute to brave soldiers who died for the beliefs in those flags. You did not answer about your reaction if a neighbor flew a large Nazi flag on his flagpole.

I suspect the SC legislators will decide to remove the battle flag from the statehouse grounds.

The main problem remains mentally ill people owning guns. It is not about too few guns, too many guns, but mentally ill people having guns AND no one willing to call authorities when they encounter a mentally ill person with a gun.

Ask yourself, if you were at Codys and talking to someone at the bar and he showed you his gun and started racial hate talk, would YOU call 911 right away?
Dear guest: The man speaking to O"Reilly did say he felt responsible for 9 deaths because he did not act. However, it is still an unknown of what the authorities would have done with this information?

As to the mentally ill the issue is more a change of laws than anything.

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Old 06-23-2015, 08:16 AM
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Dear guest: The man speaking to O"Reilly did say he felt responsible for 9 deaths because he did not act. However, it is still an unknown of what the authorities would have done with this information?

As to the mentally ill the issue is more a change of laws than anything.

Personal Best Regards:

Once again, you did not answer the question regarding what your reaction would be if a next door neighbor flew a large Nazi flag on hisflagpole.

You also did not answer the question of what you would do if you encountered a person at Codys who talked the same hate as Roof and showed you his pistol.

Talk the talk or walk the walk?
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:41 AM
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Once again, you did not answer the question regarding what your reaction would be if a next door neighbor flew a large Nazi flag on hisflagpole.

You also did not answer the question of what you would do if you encountered a person at Codys who talked the same hate as Roof and showed you his pistol.

Talk the talk or walk the walk?
Hypothetical questions should at least have some context and make sense.

ANyway I would complain to the authorities as the Swastica was and is still the symbol of Hitler's intents and actions with no doubt about what it stood for and it's purpose.

At Cosy's I would dial 911 and have the police take action. The hypothetical can say what the want...the showing of the gun gets him arrested!

Now have the courtesy to respect an answer whether yo like it or agree with it or not. It is not submitted as targets to be torn apart by those we all know live to do....thank you.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:58 AM
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Hypothetical questions should at least have some context and make sense.

ANyway I would complain to the authorities as the Swastica was and is still the symbol of Hitler's intents and actions with no doubt about what it stood for and it's purpose.

At Cosy's I would dial 911 and have the police take action. The hypothetical can say what the want...the showing of the gun gets him arrested!

Now have the courtesy to respect an answer whether yo like it or agree with it or not. It is not submitted as targets to be torn apart by those we all know live to do....thank you.
Thank you for the answers. The hypothetical questions were all relevant to the thread. Those are the same answers I would hope all would have.
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Dear guest: The man speaking to O"Reilly did say he felt responsible for 9 deaths because he did not act. However, it is still an unknown of what the authorities would have done with this information?

As to the mentally ill the issue is more a change of laws than anything.

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I would hope that all Villagers would call the authorities if they had a neighbor who espoused such hateful talk AND said they were going to kill someone or a group of people.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:17 PM
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The swastica is actually a symbol of good luck and goes way back in time before the Nazis. You can see them on the sides of the stone elephants at the Carlsberg brewery. I don't think too many people complain about that.


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Hypothetical questions should at least have some context and make sense.

ANyway I would complain to the authorities as the Swastica was and is still the symbol of Hitler's intents and actions with no doubt about what it stood for and it's purpose.

At Cosy's I would dial 911 and have the police take action. The hypothetical can say what the want...the showing of the gun gets him arrested!

Now have the courtesy to respect an answer whether yo like it or agree with it or not. It is not submitted as targets to be torn apart by those we all know live to do....thank you.
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NASCAR endorses call for removal of Confederate Flag | NASCAR Talk


NASCAR has endorsed the call to ban the confederate flag from public property that the SC legislature is considering today.

Wal-Mart, Sears, and E-Bay are all banning the sale of any confederate flag merchandise from their stores and web-sites everywhere in the country.

Governor Haley said yesterday that it is perfectly legal to fly the confederate flag on your private property, and that will not change.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:31 PM
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The swastica is actually a symbol of good luck and goes way back in time before the Nazis. You can see them on the sides of the stone elephants at the Carlsberg brewery. I don't think too many people complain about that.
Alright, then, I pose the same question to you.

What would YOUR personal response be to your next door neighbor who was flying the Nazi swastika on his flag pole?

How you plan to explain that it is merely a good luck symbol to any of your Jewish friends - especially ones who lost a family member to the Nazis in Germany?

I await your answers to both questions.
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I have to say I'm not quite as impressed as you are the Governor of SC. Although the Confederate flag is understandly an emotional issue it doesn't even make it to the top 20 issues facing this country. There was talk this morning about her being a good VP pick. We love symbolism over substance. Imagine if she had taken on the NRA and insisted on tightening the ease in which anyone can obtain a handgun. That would be like bringing a skunk to the garden party would it not? There would be no VP talk that is for sure.

Senators Manchin and Toomey are discussing bringing back the gun debate, it was disclosed today. The bill they proposed after the Sandy Hook shooting failed to pass. If not now, when?
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Senators Manchin and Toomey are discussing bringing back the gun debate, it was disclosed today. The bill they proposed after the Sandy Hook shooting failed to pass. If not now, when?
Manchin, Toomey both interested in reviving gun control push - The Washington Post
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:42 PM
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Does anybody else get weary listening to the gun control jabbering......which only comes (or tries) after a shooting.
Why is it nothing gets proposed between shootings.
Are they depending ONLY on current emotions?
Doesn't say much about the commitment to get something done.
There has been nothing proposed by anybody that would prevent the wackos and murderers from getting a gun.
Nothing. I think the politicians raise the issue for future vote count!
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Old 06-24-2015, 07:12 AM
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You are apparently not much of a student of history so I was pointing out part of the history of the swastika. I don't feel obligated to answer your questions. By the way, my wife is Jewish so don't even pretend to think you can lecture me on anything Jewish related.

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Alright, then, I pose the same question to you.

What would YOUR personal response be to your next door neighbor who was flying the Nazi swastika on his flag pole?

How you plan to explain that it is merely a good luck symbol to any of your Jewish friends - especially ones who lost a family member to the Nazis in Germany?

I await your answers to both questions.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:43 AM
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Its ok for president Barry to have the rapper Common to the white house. His lyrics promote killing cops. The media loves these BS topics like the flag issue as its easy to sensationalize the generally stupid public into a frenzy. This brings ratings to the stations and diverts away from real issues.
 

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