For liberal progressives, that is the best reason to close a thread!

I don't see this as a politically correct thing....but you conservatives continue to label everything and everyone into a box of your design. I greet my Christian friends with Merry Christmas and my Jewish friends with Happy Hanukkah however if I don't know a persons religion then I say Happy Holidays. I am trying to be religiously sensitive...not a bad thing to be.

This is complete crap... as a 100%, second generation Irishman I am offended. To say the troubles are not religiously based. As a case in point when I was younger I wanted to wear green on St Patrick's Day so I put on the only dress that had green in it. When my father saw me he told me to turn around and change my dress. The problem was the dress was orange and green. His statement that day was "No child of mine will wear orange on St. Patrick's Day. And I didn't and still haven't for nearly 50 years. The Catholic's hate the Orangeman with good reason.

So, since it is the Muslim religion that gives them permission to kill all infidels, then I would be an intolerant person to not want them to do that to me. I try to see both sides of the issue, but to say it is religious intolerance to defend yourself from a violent group set out to kill you to honor their god and beliefs, then yes I am intolerant of that and proud of it. When you get to much touchy feely, you are reminding me of the communal living hippies of the 60's. That sure turned out to change the world. Give peace a chance is a great thing, but when that does not work, its time to bring out Mr Colt and settle the problem once and for all. Allow this country to over populate with Muslims and your children and grandchildren will feel the pain of that mistake.

maybe we need a forum on religious tolerance and intolerance, then the political forum would become one of the more tolerant forums (just kidding)!!

btk

For all of you who claim to be Christians and yet are in favor of "getting out Mr Colt" and not allowing Muslims to overpopulate the country or not thinking this forum has gotten into religious intolerance and bigotry; show the thread to your minister or priest - ask their opinion.

No one is forcing me to participate in this forum. I enjoy hearing what my neighbors have to say but it does scare me to know how intolerant some really are. I know some are posting just to get under my skin and that will not work. I also know some post just to hear themself talk.

I don't think anyone is trying to offend you, at least I hope not. It is just that what you consider intolerance is really self preservation. We are not talking about a Hindu burning incense or those that practice chanting or meditation. We are talking about cold blooded murderers. Try to understand the difference. Muslims are violent to each other as well as us. Keep it in the middle east, but if you intend to move to this country, you must condemn all of the violent beliefs of the Islamic faith. Even to refer to me as an infidel is an insult when you are standing on US soil. So:::: You want to live and act like a heathen, then go to a country that will TOLERATE that mindless violence.

Just as I will not lump all Christians in with the senior Catholic heirarchy who, by their actions, condone child rape, I will not do the same of all Muslims.

I will not judge all Tea Partiers by those few racist degenerates that invaded some of the rallies.

I will not judge the Occupy movement because there were two communists and an anarchist in Boston.

Granted I can only guarantee that I'll *try* not to. I'm not perfect by ANY stretch of the imagination.

In short, I will not judge the whole because of the actions of a few.

I agree totally. But, to bring us full circle, if one is a Muslim that follows the beliefs of KILL INFIDELS, STONE WOMEN FOR MINOR OFFENSES etc. etc. I will not condone nor tolerate that. My point for this thread was Sharia Law and Islamic violent customs gaining support in our US Courts and or changing our laws. If you wish to come here and be a good law abiding American, then come on down, but a good Muslim cannot IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR FAITH, follow our laws and customs.

In the end, this is a nation founded on Christianity and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Note the closing in the opening prayer of the first congress quoted at the end here.

History of the Chaplaincy
Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution states: "The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers."

The election of the Rev. William Linn as Chaplain of the House on May 1, 1789, continued the tradition established by the Continental Congresses of each day's proceedings opening with a prayer by a chaplain. The early chaplains alternated duties with their Senate counterparts on a weekly basis. The two conducted Sunday services for the Washington community in the House Chamber every other week.

Since the election of Rev. Linn in 1789, the House has been served by chaplains of various religious denominations, including Baptist (7), Christian (1), Congregationalist (2), Disciples of Christ (1), Episcopalian (4), Lutheran (1), Methodist (16), Presbyterian (15), Roman Catholic (1), Unitarian (2), and Universalist (1).

In addition to opening proceedings with prayer, the Chaplain provides pastoral counseling to the House community, coordinates the scheduling of guest chaplains, and arranges memorial services for the House and its staff. In the past, Chaplains have performed marriage and funeral ceremonies for House members.

Chaplains of the House
(1789–Present)
Date of Appointment Chaplain Denomination
May 1, 1789 The Reverend William Linn Presbyterian......

http://chaplain.house.gov/chaplaincy/history.html

First Prayer of the Continental Congress, 1774

The Prayer in the First Congress, A.D. 1774
O Lord our Heavenly Father, high and mighty King of kings, and Lord of lords, who dost from thy throne behold all the dwellers on earth and reignest with power supreme and uncontrolled over all the Kingdoms, Empires and Governments; look down in mercy, we beseech Thee, on these our American States, who have fled to Thee from the rod of the oppressor and thrown themselves on Thy gracious protection, desiring to be henceforth dependent only on Thee. To Thee have they appealed for the righteousness of their cause; to Thee do they now look up for that countenance and support, which Thou alone canst give. Take them, therefore, Heavenly Father, under Thy nurturing care; give them wisdom in Council and valor in the field; defeat the malicious designs of our cruel adversaries; convince them of the unrighteousness of their Cause and if they persist in their sanguinary purposes, of own unerring justice, sounding in their hearts, constrain them to drop the weapons of war from their unnerved hands in the day of battle!

Be Thou present, O God of wisdom, and direct the councils of this honorable assembly; enable them to settle things on the best and surest foundation. That the scene of blood may be speedily closed; that order, harmony and peace may be effectually restored, and truth and justice, religion and piety, prevail and flourish amongst the people. Preserve the health of their bodies and vigor of their minds; shower down on them and the millions they here represent, such temporal blessings as Thou seest expedient for them in this world and crown them with everlasting glory in the world to come. All this we ask in the name and through the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son and our Savior. Amen.
Reverend Jacob Duché
Rector of Christ Church of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
September 7, 1774, 9 o’clock a.m.

http://chaplain.house.gov/archive/continental.html

I believe that this nation was founded on the basis of total religious freedom. There is no National religion.....Christian or otherwise.

After several days...I must now agree with you. :ohdear:

Wrong, but even if you were right, I for one will not except Sharia Law as some on here seem to want protection for. The formulation of our Constitution and judicial system certainly were guided by Christian beliefs and not some quirky religion that would kill you if you did not follow it to the letter. The Point is, if you have a faith different from Christianity, FINE, but it will not provide you with any benefits nor exceptions from US laws and customs. Worship whom you wish, but do not attempt to bring it into my life in any form. If you stone my wife because she wears a dress too short for your beliefs, I will not like that. If you stone your wife because she wears a dress too short and I find out about it, I will not like that either. I am confused why anyone would.

To COLOGAL and BUGGYONE

I do not understand anything you two are preaching. NOBODY, not one person on there that I can find has found any fault with anyone practicing the rites of their religion in any way shape or form.

Everybody has been pretty clear that the promoting of death, killing, dismemberment, etc is the objection. The fact that there are segments of that religion, and it IS the majority and those who really practice it, DO, in fact condone it is the argument. The entire premise of the thread was a religion getting intertwined with our constitution.

I can only assume from what you two are saying is that it would be just fine if a mosque was nearby that promoted and advanced killings, etc. and it would be just fine because they have freedom of religion. I know others have pointed out the fact that we have laws in this country.

Thus I am not sure why you continue to call people on here names. IGNORANCE and BIGOTRY....I think not and I have not seen any justification for you to call people by those adjectives.

Let me say one last thing about this thread. I don't care what religion you practice or how you practice it as long as it don't interfer with my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and my right to practice my religion without having to worry about you wanting to kill me for not believing the way YOU think I should. That will be when our two worlds collide and neither of us will be happy with the out come.