If I may add this.....

To those who say it is no big deal......the polls are simply sending a message....it will work out.

I say, it is now too late. He is not going quietly and as I rack my brain, I see no way he can leave quietly without animosity..

Nope, we are feeding his ego and that makes him feel even more strong.

Immigration is a problem. It can be solved, but both parties need to be involved to get it done. Trump is about Trump and nothing else at all.

No unless there is some miracle way to get out of the way soon, and he has his ego intact, and I see no way to do that, this is terrible. DEMOCRATS and MEDIA know it and will play it to the hilt.

He is motivating the Republican party. Do you see anyone else that is saying what Americans want to hear? No, they are too hung up on PC. I don't care for the guy either but he is rallying the lackadaisical voters that are content on sitting back and complaining instead of getting off their couches and doing something about their situation. Sorry, but I am tired of RINOs and that seems to be all we have available anymore. I liked Bush until I started listening to him. He is just another amateur, as far as I am concerned. He doesn't know what to say to rally anyone. Every one of them, except maybe Cruz, will be careful and use the utmost PC when they talk. The only reason Bush was pointed out the other day was because he was tired and let slip the "anchor baby" term. Shoot, he has already admitted that nothing can be done about the illegals already here. If he is not even going to think about it, then he is already defeated.
I'm not voting for Trump in the primary, but you can bet that if he gets the nomination, I'll be out there to vote early for him in the general.

Who cares if he is a loud mouth? He is a successful loudmouth and can't be any worst than Obama. Is he the best we have to offer? He might be the only one that can get elected so I am not going to let Hilary or Sanders have the election because I don't care for Trumps "attitude."

Rolling Stone, my @...! That cheap rag is written by a bunch of acid heads with half a brain and even that part is pickled.

Kasich, Fiorina and Walker are the ones I am watching right now. If it was possible I would vote for Huckabee today, but I realize that he doesn't have a chance, even if he is the best man for the job.

Originally Posted by Guest

He is motivating the Republican party. Do you see anyone else that is saying what Americans want to hear? No, they are too hung up on PC. I don't care for the guy either but he is rallying the lackadaisical voters that are content on sitting back and complaining instead of getting off their couches and doing something about their situation. Sorry, but I am tired of RINOs and that seems to be all we have available anymore. I liked Bush until I started listening to him. He is just another amateur, as far as I am concerned. He doesn't know what to say to rally anyone. Every one of them, except maybe Cruz, will be careful and use the utmost PC when they talk. The only reason Bush was pointed out the other day was because he was tired and let slip the "anchor baby" term. Shoot, he has already admitted that nothing can be done about the illegals already here. If he is not even going to think about it, then he is already defeated.
I'm not voting for Trump in the primary, but you can bet that if he gets the nomination, I'll be out there to vote early for him in the general.

Who cares if he is a loud mouth? He is a successful loudmouth and can't be any worst than Obama. Is he the best we have to offer? He might be the only one that can get elected so I am not going to let Hilary or Sanders have the election because I don't care for Trumps "attitude."

Rolling Stone, my @...! That cheap rag is written by a bunch of acid heads with half a brain and even that part is pickled.

Kasich, Fiorina and Walker are the ones I am watching right now. If it was possible I would vote for Huckabee today, but I realize that he doesn't have a chance, even if he is the best man for the job.

Ok....here is my question.

If Trump does not get the nomination, what do you think he will do ?

Simple question....I suggest that we have fed his ego so much, he will have no choice but to fee that ego by running as a 3rd party candidate. That spells TOTAL disaster and unless Ms Clinton is arrested, welcome President Hillary Clinton.

He has attacked on such a personal level so many of the current candidates in the Republican party, he cannot come out and support them. He is not attacking issues, he is attacking personally, something that is done out of weakness.

ANYONE can say what he is saying...you hear it in barrooms all over the country.

So tell me.....if he does not get the candidacy, what happens ?

Allow me to add one more question for you......

I do not think he is inspiring any VOTERS at all. If he does not get the nomination, the turnout will be extremely poor as everyone will blame the party for not allowing him to be the candidate.

I am telling you, this does not have a happy ending at all for the Republican party.

I hope I am wrong, I really do and hope you can convince me of how this might work out but it appears very clear to me.

Geez, I honestly want to shut up but let me add about your comment on Bush not inspiring anyone.

I am not a supporter of Bush, but I want a candidate who is not a big mouth....we already have one of those....I want a candidate who will compromise to move forward and do it intelligently (we have one now who does not know what that means and Trump does not know the meaning)..

I favor good policy over having a great speaker....like we have now.

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Geez, I honestly want to shut up but let me add about your comment on Bush not inspiring anyone.

I am not a supporter of Bush, but I want a candidate who is not a big mouth....we already have one of those....I want a candidate who will compromise to move forward and do it intelligently (we have one now who does not know what that means and Trump does not know the meaning)..

I favor good policy over having a great speaker....like we have now.

Cant edit so allow me to explain...


I favor good policy over having a great speaker......we have a great speaker int he WH now. He says what his followers wanted to hear and now you are supporting a guy who wants to do the same just in louder volume.

In my opinion, you have valid concerns. Tell me what the Republican party has done to instill confidence in the last two presidential elections? I don't mean that to be sarcastic or facetious either. Maybe I am giving Trump more credit than he deserves. I don't know. But, if I am right and he does drop out, and this was his scheme to draw the liberal dirt onto himself, rather than the other candidates, that will make him somewhat of a hero. We do have some good candidates running, but if not for Trump energizing this campaign, would anyone really pay attention to the run, or be so bored they look for something more interesting to do like stamp collecting, bird watching? Hope I didn't step on anyone's toes on that sentence.
I do share your concern, but I also have some faith that Trump has not gone around the bend and that this is all an elaborate scheme, including his vicious attack on Megan Kelly.
We still have plenty of time to see how this plays out.

Originally Posted by Guest

In my opinion, you have valid concerns. Tell me what the Republican party has done to instill confidence in the last two presidential elections? I don't mean that to be sarcastic or facetious either. Maybe I am giving Trump more credit than he deserves. I don't know. But, if I am right and he does drop out, and this was his scheme to draw the liberal dirt onto himself, rather than the other candidates, that will make him somewhat of a hero. We do have some good candidates running, but if not for Trump energizing this campaign, would anyone really pay attention to the run, or be so bored they look for something more interesting to do like stamp collecting, bird watching? Hope I didn't step on anyone's toes on that sentence.
I do share your concern, but I also have some faith that Trump has not gone around the bend and that this is all an elaborate scheme, including his vicious attack on Megan Kelly.
We still have plenty of time to see how this plays out.

I have not been articulating my concerns very well on this, but let me try and go slowly.

The last two Presidential elections...ok, this is my opinion. Blame it entirely on the conservative and Republican voters who just flat out stayed home.

In 2008, that was compounded by a poor team running at the top. In 2012, the Republican party had the perfect candidate and in my opinion a man who would have made such a great president. He bet the incumbent in all the debates, he was spot on relative to the issues, but guess what....again, the Republican voters did not turn out. That simple. In 2008, not good candidates but in 2012, VOTER APATHY.

And maybe it is me, but apathy in voting for the President of the United States should not be predicated on his speaking ability or appearance. If that is what you want, then you will have to live with what you get. And they may not be what you want in the oval office.

This country needs someone to bring it back together right now. It has nothing to do with confidence. You can post on here, tell your friends how you feel, but if you do not get out and vote and it is so easy today to vote...if you don't, then do not blame the party....blame your self.

I feel the slate of potential candidates in the Republican party is stellar this cycle. Young, vibrant and full of new ideas. You don't hear them because all you hear is Trump. The media has not problem with covering him...he is good TV but the other messages are just lost. Trump will do what he did in the last debate...he will just blow smoke while the other try in a short allowed time to make their case. But he will once again be the loudest and most shallow.

I have no idea about how a scheme could be at work, but I think the Kelly think is not surprising. Trump is not someone who really likes women and especially if they are strong. He was called on it in the first debate......and the questions were good ones as he has a history of demeaning any woman who is strong. His reaction is one of fear of Kelly. He attacks Bush because Bush is strong.

I cannot imagine any scheme at all but if you can explain that to me...as I said, I am open to anything the might change my mind about this.

He, Trump, is not going away with ease. He will not support just any candidate and I would prefer to have the process choose the candidate rather than Donald Trump.

I tried to overlook it, but his ego is being stroked and the more that happens, the less likely he is to leave without a big explosion. I cannot see him, at this point, LOSING with grace and dignity, thus I still feel strongly that this is destroying the Republican party.

I thought most voters had just about enough of a ego maniac in the WH. I thought most voters were fed up with being conned, but it appears they have not had enough.

I still see him as 3rd party, which puts Clinton in the WH with ease, or going out with a bang and the voter turnout, which I said I believe was the downfall of the Republican party the last two elections, just nose diving and once again assuring defeat.

Sorry for the long winded answer but that is how I see it.

I am not disagreeing with you, but just see another possibility. I do not see him as running a third party game. I am hoping that he is hyping up the conservatives and Independents to the point where they turn out, regardless of nominee. I see him eventually dropping out, if he doesn't get nominated or maybe even sooner. I am hoping that he really does care enough, maybe even more than enough to counter his ego.
But, like I said before if he gets the nomination, he gets my vote. I have no intention of going through two more terms of left liberal socialists. I don't know if our country can survive two more terms of tyranny.

Why is it assumed that if Trump runs independent that he will only draw the independent vote away from the republican candidate?

If this was indeed a valid assumption why is it not just as viable for the race to still be viewed as Trump or whoever the democratic candidate is?

Is it a foregone conclusion that if Trump goes 3rd party the republicans would knowingly dilute the vote to allow a democratic win?

I don't think so. We are not all lemmings or pied piper voters!!!!

I liked a couple of Trump's messages from the past few days. He taunted Sen. Graham saying that he (Trump) was 26 points in front of Graham in Graham's home state.

Trump also messaged Megyn Kelley saying he enjoyed her show so much better when she was on vacation. Fox News(?) chief Ailes said Trump owes an apology for that but Trump is not backing down.

Go Trump!

Originally Posted by Guest

I liked a couple of Trump's messages from the past few days. He taunted Sen. Graham saying that he (Trump) was 26 points in front of Graham in Graham's home state.

Trump also messaged Megyn Kelley saying he enjoyed her show so much better when she was on vacation. Fox News(?) chief Ailes said Trump owes an apology for that but Trump is not backing down.

Go Trump!

Said by a true liberal, I'm sure.

Graham means nothing to me, and other than your comment, would be totally disregarded by me.

Kelly can take anything Trump dishes out and he knows it. It is nothing more than a game, like staged TV wrestling. I doubt there are that many fooled by their dance.

Trump is just keying up the rhetoric to get folks excited and engaged. He didn't make billions by being stupid. The saga continues. Hold off on changing that channel and watch as this pans out.

Between Trump's hype and Hillary's criminal evasion tactics, this election season is amping up to be very entertaining.

Originally Posted by Guest

Why is it assumed that if Trump runs independent that he will only draw the independent vote away from the republican candidate?

If this was indeed a valid assumption why is it not just as viable for the race to still be viewed as Trump or whoever the democratic candidate is?

Is it a foregone conclusion that if Trump goes 3rd party the republicans would knowingly dilute the vote to allow a democratic win?

I don't think so. We are not all lemmings or pied piper voters!!!!

Having been involved personally in a number of "third party" runs, I can assure you that the votes will be split between the Republican Party and the independent.

Democrats are going to vote democrat and had no intention of voting Republican or for the independent.

Vote is split and thus not enough voters to carry.

I CAN ASSURE YOU, a third party run by Trump GUARANTEES A DEMOCRATIC VICTORY NO MATTER THEIR CANDIDATE !!


And allow me to add. His ship will sink eventually but by then he will have done such damage to the party that there is not way the turnout in 2016 would be sufficient to win.

He will sink because he CANNOT DO WHAT HE SAYS. We have a system of government that will not allow it. Do you not think our current President would have done more liberal progressive things had he had the opportunity.

Trump is playing for his ego.

Might make you feel good to rave about what he says, but trust me, you will be crying in your beer next November.

If he ever gets the nomination, this might be the very first presidential election since 1960 that I just sit out.

We need the opposite of Trump in this country right now. He will make the country even more divided and that we do not need.

And as I said, it may be too late already. We have fed that ego and folks like you have climbed aboard. You, and I do not mean this personally, may have voted Republican, but if he does not get the nomination, you won't vote. THAT is what is going to happen.......as of now, no matter what happens, unless there is something I can't see will just decimate the Republican party.

Originally Posted by Guest

Why is it assumed that if Trump runs independent that he will only draw the independent vote away from the republican candidate?

If this was indeed a valid assumption why is it not just as viable for the race to still be viewed as Trump or whoever the democratic candidate is?

Is it a foregone conclusion that if Trump goes 3rd party the republicans would knowingly dilute the vote to allow a democratic win?

I don't think so. We are not all lemmings or pied piper voters!!!!

Does the name Ross Perot mean anything to you? You don't think that he made a difference in Bush losing the election?

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Does the name Ross Perot mean anything to you? You don't think that he made a difference in Bush losing the election?

What about Ralph Nader and Junior?