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Old 03-09-2016, 01:00 PM
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Had she use a "dumb terminal", her correspondence would still reside in the main server and consequently a matter of public record. As you are probably aware, having her own private server gave Hillary the ability to delete any controversial and potentially incriminating correspondence (32,000 emails in her case) from the server and public record.

This advantage was not lost on Hillary, and is probably why she chose to set up a private server the first place. She has never been able to provide a valid reason for doing so, other than being matter of convenience.
Have you read this?
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/brief...3/email-facts/

It answers a lot of questions brought up earlier.

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Why did Clinton use her own email account?

When Clinton got to the Department, she opted to use her personal email account as a matter of convenience. It enabled her to reach people quickly and keep in regular touch with her family and friends more easily given her travel schedule.

That is the only reason she used her own account.

Her usage was widely known to the over 100 State Department and U.S. government colleagues she emailed, consistent with the practice of prior Secretaries of State and permitted at the time.

As Clinton has said, in hindsight, it would have been better to just have two accounts. While she thought using one account would be easier, obviously, that has not been the case.

Was it allowed?

Yes. The laws, regulations, and State Department policy in place during her tenure permitted her to use a non-government email for work.
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:37 PM
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Have you read this?
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/brief...3/email-facts/

It answers a lot of questions brought up earlier.

for example:
Why did Clinton use her own email account?

When Clinton got to the Department, she opted to use her personal email account as a matter of convenience. It enabled her to reach people quickly and keep in regular touch with her family and friends more easily given her travel schedule.

That is the only reason she used her own account.

Her usage was widely known to the over 100 State Department and U.S. government colleagues she emailed, consistent with the practice of prior Secretaries of State and permitted at the time.

As Clinton has said, in hindsight, it would have been better to just have two accounts. While she thought using one account would be easier, obviously, that has not been the case.

Was it allowed?

Yes. The laws, regulations, and State Department policy in place during her tenure permitted her to use a non-government email for work.
I read the article that you referenced. And as you said, it clearly states that employees of the government were allowed to use there personal email accounts at work, provided that no classified information was sent or received on their personal accounts and that any emails send or received had to be sent on a system which allowed archival of those documents for public record.

Unfortunately, at least 32,000 of Hillary's deleted documents did not meet a least one of those requirements (no archival for public record)) and possibly both (the classification of the content). We will never know since they were conveniently deleted and only have her word that none of them were classified. With her track record of lying, I am suspect.
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I read the article that you referenced. And as you said, it clearly states that employees of the government were allowed to use there personal email accounts at work, provided that no classified information was sent or received on their personal accounts and that any emails send or received had to be sent on a system which allowed archival of those documents for public record.

Unfortunately, at least 32,000 of Hillary's deleted documents did not meet a least one of those requirements (no archival for public record)) and possibly both (the classification of the content). We will never know since they were conveniently deleted and only have her word that none of them were classified. With her track record of lying, I am suspect.
I meant "suspicious" not "suspect''.
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I meant "suspicious" not "suspect''.
Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?

No. As noted, the emails that Clinton chose not to keep were personal emails—they were not federal records or even work-related—and therefore were not subject to any preservation obligation under the Federal Records Act or any request. Nor would they have been subject to the subpoena—which did not exist at the time—that was issued by the Benghazi Select Committee some three months later."


She used her own server for both government and personal use. She deleted her personal email. Everything that she sent with a .gov gets saved on a government server.

Is that the rub. Some people suspect she's a traitor and deleted the emails that would be used to prosecute her?
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Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?

No. As noted, the emails that Clinton chose not to keep were personal emails—they were not federal records or even work-related—and therefore were not subject to any preservation obligation under the Federal Records Act or any request. Nor would they have been subject to the subpoena—which did not exist at the time—that was issued by the Benghazi Select Committee some three months later."


She used her own server for both government and personal use. She deleted her personal email. Everything that she sent with a .gov gets saved on a government server.

Is that the rub. Some people suspect she's a traitor and deleted the emails that would be used to prosecute her?
A KNOWN liar has no credability?
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:21 PM
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Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?

No. As noted, the emails that Clinton chose not to keep were personal emails—they were not federal records or even work-related—and therefore were not subject to any preservation obligation under the Federal Records Act or any request. Nor would they have been subject to the subpoena—which did not exist at the time—that was issued by the Benghazi Select Committee some three months later."


She used her own server for both government and personal use. She deleted her personal email. Everything that she sent with a .gov gets saved on a government server.

Is that the rub. Some people suspect she's a traitor and deleted the emails that would be used to prosecute her?
It is too bad so many of you believe she did nothing wrong.

Tis a sign of the permissive, don't offend anybody, don't hurt anybody's feelings, all is OK and not illegal until or if one gets caught.

You do know she is protected by Obama and the WH and the wagons are circled. Incriminating and indicting her would suck in too many that knew what was being done was wrong including Obama sending her emails. And did nothing about it.

Where were all the flags that would go up if you or I tried to do something that illegal.....like Petraeus....in jail.
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"Petraeus knowingly handed over classified materials to his biographer, while Clinton followed State Department rules concerning private email use and was unaware of any classified information in her unmarked email correspondence."

http://mediamatters.org/research/201...parison/204751

I don't want to offend ayone but isn't this true?
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Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

Since the emails no longer exist there is no way to prove what information the emails contained.

Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?

Since no records were kept, we have no way of knowing when Clinton actually deleted them. We only have Hillary's word that she deleted them before she received the subpoena. And even after being served, she denied that she had been subpoenaed.

No. As noted, the emails that Clinton chose not to keep were personal emails—they were not federal records or even work-related—and therefore were not subject to any preservation obligation under the Federal Records Act or any request. Nor would they have been subject to the subpoena—which did not exist at the time—that was issued by the Benghazi Select Committee some three months later."

As you stated, the emails sent through Clinton's private server are not a matter of public record and can not be accessed, a fact well known to Hillary.

She used her own server for both government and personal use. She deleted her personal email. Everything that she sent with a .gov gets saved on a government server.

Using her own server and .gov email address allowed her to pick and choose which emails would become a matter of public record - how convenent for her.

Is that the rub. Some people suspect she's a traitor and deleted the emails that would be used to prosecute her?
The rub is that she is a proven liar and according to Politico, more than 1200 emails have surfaced that have been deemed to be classified.

As I stated in a previous post, I question her truthfulness. The FBI investigation is ongoing, lets see how it plays out.
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"Petraeus knowingly handed over classified materials to his biographer, while Clinton followed State Department rules concerning private email use and was unaware of any classified information in her unmarked email correspondence."

If she was unaware of the sensitive nature (i.e., classification) of content of the more than 1200 emails that she sent and/or received that have been deemed classified, she is either stupid or incompetent, or BOTH! And, the argument that they were not "marked classified" doesn't fly. The information was deemed to be of a sensitive nature at the timed and even a retired State Department clerk typist would have known it.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201...parison/204751

I don't want to offend ayone but isn't this true?
I'm not offended.
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The rub is that she is a proven liar and according to Politico, more than 1200 emails have surfaced that have been deemed to be classified.

As I stated in a previous post, I question her truthfulness. The FBI investigation is ongoing, lets see how it plays out.
Was it in this article?
Hillary Clinton email: FBI contacts Colin Powell as part of probe - POLITICO

I'm anxious to see how it plays out too. My hunch is she will be judged based on criminal intent unless everything was not listed as classified when it was first obtained.

It would be interesting if it came down to Sanders and Trump. Neither one getting money from big business. If it doesn't turn out that way, that would make a great plot.

I enjoy your posts You give me something to think about and look up without being condescending or patronizing.
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Time to give the Republicans their dose of reality.

Electionbettingodds.com is now giving Sec. Clinton a 69.2 percent chance that she will be the next President of the USA.

They are giving Donald Trump a 19.2 percent chance.

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You could have at least started with a SPOILER ALERT.
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Old 03-18-2016, 07:17 AM
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Time to give the Republicans their dose of reality.

Electionbettingodds.com is now giving Sec. Clinton a 69.2 percent chance that she will be the next President of the USA.

They are giving Donald Trump a 19.2 percent chance.

And these fake, lying "polls", will convince everyone to vote for one of THEIR bought and paid for candidates. We're such foolish sheep! Believing what professional liars are telling us.
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:30 AM
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And these fake, lying "polls", will convince everyone to vote for one of THEIR bought and paid for candidates. We're such foolish sheep! Believing what professional liars are telling us.
BS!
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And these fake, lying "polls", will convince everyone to vote for one of THEIR bought and paid for candidates. We're such foolish sheep! Believing what professional liars are telling us.
No, you are wrong again! Electionbettingodds.com is not a poll. It is actual betting odds from a couple of sites that allow the buying and selling of odds on candidates. Go to the site and read about how it is done.
 

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