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Guest 07-03-2016 07:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249016)
You post as if stupidity were a virtue. Why is that?

You just proved it is!

Guest 07-03-2016 07:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249031)
You just proved it is!

Yes, you did.

Guest 07-03-2016 08:01 PM

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President Clinton escaped indictment by surrendering his Arkansas law license for five years and admitting that he made false statements under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Someone who lies under oath in federal court, or who lies under oath to a person acting on behalf of the federal government may be sentenced to up to five years in jail.

1. Did Bill Clinton admit guilt to lying under oath? Yes

2. Is lying under oath in federal court, or to a person acting on behalf of the federal government a felony (a crime punishable by more than one year of confinement)? Yes

3. By YOUR definition is Bill Clinton a felon? YES

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I don't define words. I cut and pasted from a Law Book.

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There is more then one of us answering your post.

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In fact, the Senate acquitted Clinton. In order for a lie under oath to amount to perjury -- as Senator Daniel Akaka (D-HI) explained on the floor of the Senate on February 12, 1999 -- it must be "material" to the underlying case. U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright ruled that Clinton's deposition in the Monica Lewinsky case was immaterial to the sexual harassment suit that Paula Jones brought against Clinton. As a judge, Napolitano almost certainly knows that as a legal matter, Clinton is not guilty of a felony.

Guest 07-03-2016 08:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249043)
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I don't define words. I cut and pasted from a Law Book.

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There is more then one of us answering your post.

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In fact, the Senate acquitted Clinton. In order for a lie under oath to amount to perjury -- as Senator Daniel Akaka (D-HI) explained on the floor of the Senate on February 12, 1999 -- it must be "material" to the underlying case. U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright ruled that Clinton's deposition in the Monica Lewinsky case was immaterial to the sexual harassment suit that Paula Jones brought against Clinton. As a judge, Napolitano almost certainly knows that as a legal matter, Clinton is not guilty of a felony.

Why, do you think Bill Clinton agreed to surrender his law license for five years. Perhaps it was a goodwill gesture?

Guest 07-03-2016 09:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249016)
You post as if stupidity were a virtue. Why is that?

When you can't argue with the facts, call people stupid. Good plan.

Another fun fact about the whole Bill Clinton saga is the only one sitting in jail is former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-IL).

He was the guy called in to clean up the whole Clinton impeachment debacle. Hastert is the longest serving speaker in US history, but it seems he couldn't keep his hands off the young boys.

Guest 07-03-2016 09:21 PM

Spin it any way you like, Bill Clinton is a felon. The only reason Bill Clinton was not found guilty of a felony was because of a plea bargain entered to avoid his prosecution.

Source: Wikipedia (Clinton vs Jones)
"As a consequence of his conduct in the Jones v. Clinton civil suit and before the federal grand jury, President Clinton incurred significant administrative sanctions.

The Independent Counsel considered seven non-criminal alternative sanctions that were imposed in making his decision to decline prosecution:

(1) President Clinton’s admission of providing false testimony that was knowingly misleading, evasive, and prejudicial to the administration of justice before the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Arkansas;

(2) his acknowledgement that his conduct violated the Rules of Professional Conduct of the Arkansas Supreme Court;

(3) the five-year suspension of his license to practice law and $25,000 fine imposed on him by the Circuit Court of Pulaski County, Arkansas;

(4) the civil contempt penalty of more than $900,000 imposed on President Clinton by the federal court for violating its orders;

(5) the payment of more than $850,000 in settlement to Paula Jones;

(6) the express finding by the federal court that President Clinton had engaged in contemptuous conduct; and (7) the substantial public condemnation of President Clinton arising from his impeachment."

These seven sanctions, Ray reasoned, were "sufficient", and therefore he did not pursue further sanctions in a criminal proceeding.[2]"

An innocent man (Bill Clinton) would not have agreed to the above seven sanctions had he not been guilty.

Guest 07-03-2016 09:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249084)
When you can't argue with the facts, call people stupid. Good plan.

Another fun fact about the whole Bill Clinton saga is the only one sitting in jail is former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-IL).

He was the guy called in to clean up the whole Clinton impeachment debacle. Hastert is the longest serving speaker in US history, but it seems he couldn't keep his hands off the young boys.

What "facts" are you referring to?

Guest 07-03-2016 09:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249072)
Why, do you think Bill Clinton agreed to surrender his law license for five years. Perhaps it was a goodwill gesture?

I don't know why and don't feel like looking it up. I thought this was about whether or not by legal definition, he is a felon.

Guest 07-03-2016 09:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249088)
I don't know why and don't feel like looking it up. I thought this was about whether or not by legal definition, he is a felon.

Results of Google search for: "Legal Definition of a Felon"

Felon legal definition of felon - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felon
Felon. An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony. West's Encyclopedia of American .

Felony legal definition of felony - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felony
Felony. A serious crime, characterized under federal law and many state statutes as any offense punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year.

With reference to the above definitions, Bill Clinton is a Felon.

Guest 07-03-2016 10:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249093)
Results of Google search for: "Legal Definition of a Felon"

Felon legal definition of felon - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felon
Felon. An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony. West's Encyclopedia of American .

Felony legal definition of felony - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felony
Felony. A serious crime, characterized under federal law and many state statutes as any offense punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year.

With reference to the above definitions, Bill Clinton is a Felon.

not unless he was convicted

Guest 07-03-2016 10:37 PM

New York. Individuals convicted of a felony are ineligible to vote while incarcerated and on parole. Voting rights are automatically restored upon completion of parole, and people on probation can vote. Ex-offenders should re-register to vote.

At any time did Bill Clinton lose the right to vote? no

Guest 07-04-2016 03:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249093)
Results of Google search for: "Legal Definition of a Felon"

Felon legal definition of felon - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felon
Felon. An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony. West's Encyclopedia of American .

Felony legal definition of felony - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felony
Felony. A serious crime, characterized under federal law and many state statutes as any offense punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year.

With reference to the above definitions, Bill Clinton is a Felon.

:agree:...:thumbup:

Guest 07-04-2016 04:03 AM

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New York. Individuals convicted of a felony are ineligible to vote while incarcerated and on parole. Voting rights are automatically restored upon completion of parole, and people on probation can vote. Ex-offenders should re-register to vote.

At any time did Bill Clinton lose the right to vote? no

Are you going to deny that the Clintons did not commit felonies? Are you really that naive? Or are you really that blinded by politics?

Guest 07-04-2016 05:39 AM

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Another great analogy, thank-you

Thanks...

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So now the FBI is crooked. :a20:

Why wouldn't you think they are? Do you think the corruption is limited to President, Congress, Senate, SCOTUS, Federal judges, EPA, SEC, CIA, and all the rest?

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249016)
You post as if stupidity were a virtue. Why is that?

That's the problem with really stupid people, they're too stupid to know just how stupid they are.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249100)
not unless he was convicted

Exactly, YOU don't get to decide if he's guilty. The day a judge says he's guilty, THEN you can start calling him a felon.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249125)
Are you going to deny that the Clintons did not commit felonies? Are you really that naive? Or are you really that blinded by politics?

Most people ARE that naive...look at the crap they believe. Government is there to help, religions are real, women and minorities are "equal". All kinds of lies and fantasy.

Guest 07-04-2016 08:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1249136)
Thanks...

Exactly, YOU don't get to decide if he's guilty. The day a judge says he's guilty, THEN you can start calling him a felon.

So, If I rape your wife and daughter and for lack of evidence, I am never convicted, then by your logic (not legal definition) I am not a rapist? I must say, it is an interesting world in which you live.


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