Most people that stand so strongly against food stamps, and who characterize them all as tatooed, stinky, fat people who buy beer and cigarettes with them, probably have never really known anyone who was on food stamps. While it is true that there are abuses, as there are among bankers, doctors, hospitals, farm corporations, and every other occupation you can name, there are many people who have legitimate and proper needs for the program. There was a program on this week (I beleive it was 20/20) which focused on several families that had been middle or upper middle class professionals, lost their jobs, had been unable to find employment, and were now on food stamps among other subsistence. For the most part they professed embarassment for having to use food stamps, but not so much for other government assistance they received. Why? because other people, who might be judgemental could possibly see they were using food stamps, while no one knew about where the money they were receiving came from. Before you judge others too harshly, you may want to consider the circumstances that they may have fallen into.

Originally Posted by buggyone

"I can't tell you how many times, I'm in line at check-out and the customer in front of me is using his Food Stamp card, and they have tatoos, false fingernails, gold teeth, wearing brand name shoes and clothes and buying beer...Ugh!...."

You say you live in the Village of LaZamora and you see this a lot of times? What food stores do you shop at? Beer is not one of the items that can be bought with food stamps. I have lived in The Villages for 3 years and do shopping both in and out of The Villages. I have never seen people as you describe buying beer with food stamps.

I have seen a man or a woman with a small child buying things like milk, cereal, hamburger, and spaghetti with their food stamps from time to time. Shall we turn them away?

Lots of the Conservatives who are posting about the poor people having too many children and we have to pay for their welfare are the same ones who do not want Pro-Choice and to let a woman terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

I wondered myself where the poster shops so I can avoid that store. Conservatives are all about the babies, until they're born, then they want nothing to do with them such as abolishing food stamps, defunding Planned Parenthood for their mothers, ending Head Start, no school lunch program. Once you're born, you're on your own.

"Once you're born, you're on your own."

Some of us had a mother and father.

Wouldn't have it any other way.

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

"Once you're born, you're on your own."

Some of us had a mother and father.

Wouldn't have it any other way.

btk

...and does the baby have any choice of having a mother and a father? By not having a mother and a father, a baby should suffer hunger? Nice Christian attitude.

what I read here are some posters who have everything they need and are not willing to give a little to help some who don't. These are the same people who also preach to us about christian values and the value of life.

Originally Posted by buggyone

...and does the baby have any choice of having a mother and a father? By not having a mother and a father, a baby should suffer hunger? Nice Christian attitude.

None of what was posted here was in the thought or intent. Once again you twist, spin, distort or out and out invent your interpretation or intents. Unfortunately, as usual, none of your quote is even close to accurate.

When you want to espouse the quality of "christian attitude" perhaps a long hard look in the mirror might help you.

And you post also delves into the isolated, by comparison, example to apply to a general condition. Some of you should feel inadequate quoting application of onsey twosey incidents when we are discussing impacts of millions.

You are entitled to your interpretation and opinion, but as requested time and time again....don't try to pass it off as what I said or intended.

btk

Originally Posted by waynet

what I read here are some posters who have everything they need and are not willing to give a little to help some who don't. These are the same people who also preach to us about christian values and the value of life.

And these are the same people who applaud our getting involved in the two longest wars in US history, which costs a trillion dollars. No problem with the cost of unpaid-for wars or the unpaid-for Medicare Part D.

Why is it you on the left are against cleaning up the voting rolls,food stamp programs and other government programs,You call names you change subject and never address the issue.Just what are you afraid of?Could it be you are part of the problems?I would think any sane and normal person would want these government programs to be ran honestly.

Originally Posted by hdh1470

Why is it you on the left are against cleaning up the voting rolls,food stamp programs and other government programs,You call names you change subject and never address the issue.Just what are you afraid of?Could it be you are part of the problems?I would think any sane and normal person would want these government programs to be ran honestly.

Liberals have it easy because all their propaganda can be situated on bump stickers "Feed the hungry and all those feel good sayings. However it is not accompanied byany real deep thinking.

Histronics aside tell me where in America children are going hungry, other than the occasional parent that has his children tied up in the basement.
Poverty as measured by America still leaves the poor with cars, AC, TV DVD, etc.

The Food Stamp program now provides for 1 of 7 americans. Does the old saw go something like feed a person fish and you will always feed that person. However teach them to fish and..... corny, perhaps

Obama is on a big campaign to increase the Food Stamp program in Texas, Californa North & south Carolina, New York and Ohio. Hmmmm wonder why?

And finally count on liberals always to stop any serious discussion on these programs with either "so you want childen to starve" or then why don't you stop collecting your social security and medicare. And the answer is obvious but liberals can't deal with that fact because it causes them confusion "that does not compute" "that does not compute"

Notice that none of the leftists have mentioned food stamps and all welfare assistance is supposed to be a temporary safety net....NOT a permanent lifestyle in which one can develop a "pay increase" by purposely having more children!

Some of you need to work/volunteer at a county social services office or hospital ER, where 2-3 generations of a family come in who've never seen even one of their parent(s) get up every day and go to work and show the kids a paycheck they earned.

And then people wonder why the kids give up in junior high and decide about finishing school: "What FOR??"

Originally Posted by waynet

what I read here are some posters who have everything they need and are not willing to give a little to help some who don't. These are the same people who also preach to us about christian values and the value of life.

For the last 20 years I worked 6 days a week.I would put 20 dollars in my pocket every week for lunch money and would order off the dollar menu.While others would spend more and always complain they are broke.But they would find money for their $5 starbucks every day.We also sent are kids to school and paid for it.My daughter is a lawyer and has been on a senators staff and happens to be very left and feels she is entitled also.But I blame that on being in Washington to long.My question to you is why should us or anybody else pay for those who go thru life keeping up with the jone's because they were to stupid to plan for their old age?One thing I have learned in my 61 years is more of my friends that lean left are broke then the ones to the right.And that is not because of making less money..Most were just dumb and lived and spent it all.Now they think they are owed by the rest of us.I for one think not.

Originally Posted by hdh1470

For the last 20 years I worked 6 days a week.I would put 20 dollars in my pocket every week for lunch money and would order off the dollar menu.While others would spend more and always complain they are broke.But they would find money for their $5 starbucks every day.We also sent are kids to school and paid for it.My daughter is a lawyer and has been on a senators staff and happens to be very left and feels she is entitled also.But I blame that on being in Washington to long.My question to you is why should us or anybody else pay for those who go thru life keeping up with the jone's because they were to stupid to plan for their old age?One thing I have learned in my 61 years is more of my friends that lean left are broke then the ones to the right.And that is not because of making less money..Most were just dumb and lived and spent it all.Now they think they are owed by the rest of us.I for one think not.

Lots of good old common sense and clear eyed observation in your post.

Nobody's pulling the wool over your eyes. Bravo.

so HDH a man or woman works for 30 years gets laid off by a lage corporation and cannot find work to support he and his mate. He's got 5 years to payoff the mortgage,a small car payment,and maybe a home improvement loan. I guess you want him to starve and lose everything right? You are cold

Food Stamps were originally sold. Cost was based on person's income and financial status. Pres. Ford changed that to just give them the difference in Food Stamps. So that were, for example, sold for $50 for $100 dollars food stamps, they just gave out $50 food stamps. Then the recepients now can spend the $50 not on foodm but beer and smokes, And then they cry $50 is all they have for food where they were supposed to put up $50 of their own money too.

If the birthrate had not dropped, there would be more young people paying into pension funds.