Originally Posted by waynet

still no real response to the excellant blueash post from the cons. Just more talking points and spin. Anyone who only and continually blames Obama and Dems for budget impasse are fooling themselves and have drunk too much Kool-aid. Open up your minds,please.

How many votes have the Democrats offered to the Obama budget PLEASE ?

Originally Posted by coralway

blueash's post is spot on - Congress is NOT interested in hearings, or negotiations, or compromise.

You are right...at least the senate is not...they have refused to discuss or take any action on 30 bills that create jobs....and as unbelievable as it sounds, they refused to even talk about a bill to stop the stealing of taxpayer money by illegal immigrants in a much published scam they use. REFUSED TO ALLOW DISCUSSION.

Isn't this the Plan Newt called "right wing social engineering"?

PLEASE...all these posts on how we have a budget..how the Republicans are holding up the budget...continue your conversation keeping in mind the only part of congress that passed a budget was the house and the senate refused to even discuss it.

The senate also for three straight years has dealt the President a shutout on his proposals.

PLEASE, non stop saying things that are not true or even close to true must be exhausting but please continue !

Originally Posted by coralway

Isn't this the Plan Newt called "right wing social engineering"?

Not the point at all. You have made some harsh accusations and statements on this thread...I WANT to hear you back them up !

Originally Posted by coralway

The House is the pure example of the failure to negotiate and compromise AND resolve ! need to know why Boehner will not insist on that approach. That is the question the Cons will not AND cannot answer !

- see how that works?

By the way, in 2008 the american electorate voted for Obama's agenda - not Boehner's.

seems to work the same way that prince harry will not permit legislation sent to the senate by the house to come to the senate floor - no? guess the senate is an equally pure example of the 'failure to negotiate and compromise'

i see too well how that works - the same way that obama fails to negotiate and compromise, not to mention to resolve. boehner has stated that he is willing to sit down and talk to try to move toward resolution - too bad that harry, nancy and obama will not take him up on his offer.

re how the american electorate voted in 2008 - i pray every nite that they have seen the error of their way, have not suffered too much because of it, have learned from it and will correct it in 2012. based on interim elections, prayers migh just be at work.

PLEASE....WHERE have all you accusers gone ?

Obama budget has been shot down by all politicans on both sides of the aisle...got it ?

Only folks who abided by our constitution was the house and the senate would not discuss that !

I am not shocked that you folks make false claims...I AM shocked that you dont even know what is going on in this country....oh, I am one who cannot wait for the debates !

Originally Posted by waynet

still no real response to the excellant blueash post from the cons. Just more talking points and spin. Anyone who only and continually blames Obama and Dems for budget impasse are fooling themselves and have drunk too much Kool-aid. Open up your minds,please.

waynet - i hope your post is not a reference to mine - for i have placed blame on dems/reps, senate/house for not negotiating, compromising, resolving...AND...have placed the blame for failing to insist on negotiating, compromising and resolving at the feet of obama - whose job as president of the united states of america is to lead the government and insure that the government is acting in the best interest of its people.

the job of the president of the united states of america is NOT to whine and stamp his feet in one tantrum after another - it is to lead!

Originally Posted by Bucco

Not the point at all. You have made some harsh accusations and statements on this thread...I WANT to hear you back them up !

Gingrich Calls GOP Budget 'Right Wing Social Engineering' | PBS NewsHour

Originally Posted by Bucco

PLEASE....WHERE have all you accusers gone ?

Obama budget has been shot down by all politicans on both sides of the aisle...got it ?

Only folks who abided by our constitution was the house and the senate would not discuss that !

I am not shocked that you folks make false claims...I AM shocked that you dont even know what is going on in this country....oh, I am one who cannot wait for the debates !

bucco - recognition of that fact is not part of the democrat's play book - it admits that more than just the republicans/members of obama's own party do not support him and his budget. the dems get no campaign mileage out of such an admission so it is not a talking point.

Originally Posted by njbchbum

waynet - i hope your post is not a reference to mine - for i have placed blame on dems/reps, senate/house for not negotiating, compromising, resolving...AND...have placed the blame for failing to insist on negotiating, compromising and resolving at the feet of obama - whose job as president of the united states of america is to lead the government and insure that the government is acting in the best interest of its people.

the job of the president of the united states of america is NOT to whine and stamp his feet in one tantrum after another - it is to lead!

AMEN to your post NJ....but most of the whining and yelling on here is pure political nonsense.

The ONLY part of congress that did their duty was the house...the actually approved a budget BUT the senate would not even discuss i.

You can approve of the budget or not but they did their job.

Now the President did his job also...he submitted a budget (actually 3 of them)....all of them were "shut out".....all partied, both Democrat an Republican in both the house and senate voted against it.

So...this yelping about Republicans is like you folks dont even know this ....like it is a surprise, otherwise some of the things being said would not be said because frankly they are embarassing.

Originally Posted by njbchbum

bucco - recognition of that fact is not part of the democrat's play book - it admits that more than just the republicans/members of obama's own party do not support him and his budget. the dems get no campaign mileage out of such an admission so it is not a talking point.

It just scares me no end to think that people would come on here and post tripe and embarass themselves by saying things that are so easily, if you know anything, proven false.

It is preposterous to say that the House did their job. All they did was pass radical, BS bills that they knew had no chance in the Senate and, frankly, that had very little support of the American people. Instead of focusing on jobs they focused on battering women.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

It is preposterous to say that the House did their job. All they did was pass radical, BS bills that they knew had no chance in the Senate and, frankly, that had very little support of the American people. Instead of focusing on jobs they focused on battering women.

But don't forget, the house voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act 32 times. It's been estimated that action alone cost 50 million dollars. Not to mention the number of abortion bills they voted on. But according to Speaker Boehner, it all about jobs, jobs, jobs.

Originally Posted by DaleMN

It is preposterous to say that the House did their job. All they did was pass radical, BS bills that they knew had no chance in the Senate and, frankly, that had very little support of the American people. Instead of focusing on jobs they focused on battering women.

Lots of your opinion but quite an accusation...can you speak to

"Instead of focusing on jobs they focused on battering women."

When you respond to that accusation we can discuss your comment which is ridiciously out of context.

I said the house did their job relative to passing a budget and you know that I did but you turned it around and deleted the part about the budget. Why would someone do something like that ?

And that last bill to stop the illegals from scamming he IRS was one big radical bill....dont blame Reid for stopping that one !!!! Whew !