The article presents Obama proposing Russia wait until after his re-election to address nuclear disarming strategy.

I see two issues. One he has no limits to how, when, where and to what ends he will play the political "game". He is trying to avoid having a controversial subject in the lime light during his campaign. Does raise the question of what else is being suppressed to make him look good (or not any worse?) before the election.

Secondly he is advertising he will deal with unpopular policy after his re-election....because he will be able to do what ever he wants, as a lame duck POTUS, that accomplishes his agenda, whether the people like it or not. This tactic in and of itself should be of concern for Americans, to the point he is brazen enough about it to go on international record, telegraphing such intentions, should he be re-elected.

At least two red flags being waved in the face of we the people.

Read for yourself:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...e-flexibility/



btk

I edited it into the original post!

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

The article presents Obama proposing Russia wait until after his re-election to address nuclear disarming strategy.

I see two issues. One he has no limits to how, when, where and to what ends he will play the political "game". He is trying to avoid having a controversial subject in the lime light during his campaign. Does raise the question of what else is being suppressed to make him look good (or not any worse?) before the election.

Secondly he is advertising he will deal with unpopular policy after his re-election....because he will be able to do what ever he wants, as a lame duck POTUS, that accomplishes his agenda, whether the people like it or not. This tactic in and of itself should be of concern for Americans, to the point he is brazen enough about it to go on international record, telegraphing such intentions, should he be re-elected.

At least two red flags being waved in the face of we the people.

Read for yourself:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...e-flexibility/



btk

" Does raise the question of what else is being suppressed to make him look good (or not any worse?) before the election."

I think you have raised a good question. This deal was picked up by microphones. What is going on behind closed doors?

My fear of seeing Barack Hussein Obama II being able to rule with no fear of facing the electorate is overwhelming. Imagine, and forget the worthiness of the healthcare bill, a man like this who lied to the country when he said there would be open discussion of the health care situation and then blatantly took it beyond closed doors, and then even paid blackmail to his own party members to have it passed. He blatantly lied and has made NO attempt to stop politics from the WH but instead geared it to a new level. Forget policy right or wrong...he is using our WH for his own political purpose to an extreme.

After viewing the video I must say it looks like two old comrades sealing a deal. The only thing missing was the vodka toast.

Big deal. Any politician in the same situation would have probably done the same thing and waited until after he/she was elected back into office.

Doubt if Mitt Romney, Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin, John McCain, any Bush, or any other name you could throw out would do anything differently. What is he going to do? Make a foreign policy with Russia on missiles and then hope the Republican-- if he/she gets into office-- does not overturn it?

maybe most politicians would be smart enough to not announce to the world that is the game they are playing.

And maybe many of us would not be too concerned if he didn't qualify his intents by adding, after the election having more flexibility.....to do as he damn well pleases without concern for the reaction as there is no election to keep him in check.

So when someone lies, makes back room deals and openly states lets do this later because....makes one suspicious and we would be no matter what letter is behind the name openly flaunting what they are doing. If he does not care now what will he care when there is no risk of retribution from we the people when re-election is not on his agenda.

Makes me cringe every time I hear or think of his words....I need four more years to finish the job.....

btk

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Big deal. Any politician in the same situation would have probably done the same thing and waited until after he/she was elected back into office.

Doubt if Mitt Romney, Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin, John McCain, any Bush, or any other name you could throw out would do anything differently. What is he going to do? Make a foreign policy with Russia on missiles and then hope the Republican-- if he/she gets into office-- does not overturn it?

How can you say that ? A man wants to make a deal concerning foreign affairs, specifially missle defense and it would appear he wants it done without any questions.

YES I do doubt if any of those you name would be that arrogant. Of those who are serious (Reagan, McCain, or Bush) I would be shocked to see any of them act so arrogantly !

Actually, do not know how to research but would like to know if in our history a president has tried to make a deal and go around his responsibilities (which it APPEARS he means to do) to our constitution in making these kinds of deals.

I do think his faux paux requires an explanation to the american public but doubting it will ever happen

By commission and ommission the moves made or not made by Obama on foreign policy matters will come back to haunt America for the next decade. Obama has turned friends to foes and foes not to friends but pretender friends. He has missed one opportunity after another . Why? Idealogy.

so I am very surprised to learn that anyone is confounded or confused regarding Obama's decisions.

Originally Posted by rubicon

By commission and ommission the moves made or not made by Obama on foreign policy matters will come back to haunt America for the next decade. Obama has turned friends to foes and foes not to friends but pretender friends. He has missed one opportunity after another . Why? Idealogy.

so I am very surprised to learn that anyone is confounded or confused regarding Obama's decisions.

PLUS , in my opinion and can find no way to prove this with great validity...only circumstantial evidence, he ignored foreign affairs for probably well over ONE YEAR (along with unemployment) to concentrate and travel the country selling his healthcare bill.

The Maddow Blog - Romney doesn't know how to fake foreign policy acumen

Previous post stated that other presidents make deals behind closed doors and that is true. But none of them were trying to destroy American or to enter into a dictator government. I sure hope people are paying attention to what is happening. I dont care for Romney but if he is my alternative he has my vote

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

The Maddow Blog - Romney doesn't know how to fake foreign policy acumen

Dont mind reading MSNBC, as long as it is kept in perspective.

Look, Romney, Obama, Santorum, etc...NONE are perfect and whomever is chosen to run against Obama will have to listen to all their errors rebroadcast...that is the nature of the beast.

Having said that, this is obviously one of those situations where she is taking a negative against her guy and trying to turn it around against the other side...a spin piece in essence.

What we have is a President of the United States telling americans one thing and telling another power that they should just wait until after the election and then he can change his stance and nobody can stop him. This, to me is very bad, AND if he is talking treaties, there is something called the constitution that might get into his way.

In my voting and political life I have probably voted Democratic more than Republican for the WH, but in this case, I am afraid of this man, as Clinton declared in 2008. He is in one term and we have his handiword before the Supreme Court....now, having him not facing the electorate any longer and hearing that he will make deals under that circumstance different from what is in play now is pretty darn scary. I have never attacked the man personally and find no reason to but his policies that we know of are scary...now we know he has plans we do not know of

I just don't see the concern over this. You guys write like its the end of the world or worse. Calm down he's a politician just like all your boys and girls. Geez, you would think some of you really believe that Obama is trying to destroy America.

Originally Posted by waynet

I just don't see the concern over this. You guys write like its the end of the world or worse. Calm down he's a politician just like all your boys and girls. Geez, you would think some of you really believe that Obama is trying to destroy America.

I do not have any concern for this. Sounds like the US needs Russia to help with various fires in the Middle East. Russia is an ally but President Obama does have the election to worry about. He does not see Russia posing a nuclear threat against the US. Cannot see how Mitt Romney ever arrived at that conclusion.

"[T]his is without question our number one geopolitical foe, they fight every cause for the world's worst actors, the idea that [President Obama] has more flexibility in mind for Russia is very, very troubling indeed."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8ER6TR20120327