In the first place,everything Trump does is first class. If you have ever been to one of his properties, you would realize that. He always hires top notch, competent people to run his operation. Is anybody impressed with the quality and competence of Obama's appointees? I'm thinking of Trump as more of a 'turn around specialist", and I don't particularly care if he is considered a true conservative or not, whatever being a true conservative means. I expect him to appoint top notch competent people, run the country like a business and "make America great again".

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If anyone thinks that they are going to get rid of politics in D.C. they are naive. The best you can do is do the least damage. Americans are very mistaken if they think they can do away with politics in politics. And the best we can do is clean up the hazardous waste/corruption as it spills. If you can't keep corruption out of cities, you can't expect to do it on a large scale like the Federal gov. All you can do is limit the damage and prosecute the perpetrators as you catch them.

I am glad you and that attitude are not in charge of ridding the world of ISIS. If you have 4 flat tires and a defective starter in your car, fixing the starter won't get the car working. We need reform the political system, so anything but an attitude to work at fixing the entire problem is unacceptable.

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Showing class. If you have class, you don't make fun of a person's appearance especially a woman. You don't make fun of a person energy, Bush. You don't point out a person's position on the stage. You don't question a person's right to become president, and then say I am just giving him advice. You don't backtrack on your over the top comments. You don't stand on the stage during a debate, and make funny faces.

Trump is a horse's ass. That statement means I don't have class. Oh, well. Too bad! So sad!

If you have class, you stick to issues, and make your positions known. If you say that you are going to get rid of something like Obamacare, you put your replacement out there. You knowing don't blow smoke to get elected, and then run away from your campaign promises.

Trump, and Cruz are nothing but noise.

On the previous post, we have never had a president as divisive as Obama. The assumption is that the Republican Congress doesn't have any responsibility for what happen. Mitch McConnell is the king of the filibuster. Boehner wouldn't put anything on the floor for a vote, in particular the bipartisan immigration bill, unless it passed the Hastert rule. Paul Ryan wouldn't accept the Speaker of the House position, if the Republican House members didn't change their attitude. There is plenty of blame to go around for the last 7+ years.

So let us add Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Clinton and a cast of 1000's to your list of some being without class and most all others unable to work effectively for "we the people". I agree that Trump is very rough around the edges, but he is saying what much of the public is thinking, and he is not committed to special interest groups making him, I believe, the only candidate that will be able to actually keep his campaign promises.

I also believe that if he is nominated and then elected he will find out soon enough what he can and cannot do once in office. However, being who and what he is when the things he is trying to do for the country get bogged down by the politics as usual cronyism crowd, he will rally the American people to force their represtatives to do their job.....REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.......bringing America back to where they want America to be.......Trump will have an effect on how business is done or not in Washington.

He therefore has enemies of the establishment in both partiies.

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In the first place,everything Trump does is first class. If you have ever been to one of his properties, you would realize that. He always hires top notch, competent people to run his operation. Is anybody impressed with the quality and competence of Obama's appointees? I'm thinking of Trump as more of a 'turn around specialist", and I don't particularly care if he is considered a true conservative or not, whatever being a true conservative means. I expect him to appoint top notch competent people, run the country like a business and "make America great again".

Rubio is backed by the Koch brothers is that a good thing.

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Rubio is backed by the Koch brothers is that a good thing.

Why not? Obama was backed by Soros, the socialist. Is that a good thing?

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Showing class. If you have class, you don't make fun of a person's appearance especially a woman. You don't make fun of a person energy, Bush. You don't point out a person's position on the stage. You don't question a person's right to become president, and then say I am just giving him advice. You don't backtrack on your over the top comments. You don't stand on the stage during a debate, and make funny faces.

Trump is a horse's ass. That statement means I don't have class. Oh, well. Too bad! So sad!

If you have class, you stick to issues, and make your positions known. If you say that you are going to get rid of something like Obamacare, you put your replacement out there. You knowing don't blow smoke to get elected, and then run away from your campaign promises.

Trump, and Cruz are nothing but noise.

On the previous post, we have never had a president as divisive as Obama. The assumption is that the Republican Congress doesn't have any responsibility for what happen. Mitch McConnell is the king of the filibuster. Boehner wouldn't put anything on the floor for a vote, in particular the bipartisan immigration bill, unless it passed the Hastert rule. Paul Ryan wouldn't accept the Speaker of the House position, if the Republican House members didn't change their attitude. There is plenty of blame to go around for the last 7+ years.

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Ok, got it. According to your definition of "class" Harry Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Grayson, Debbie Whatshername are all guilty of being without "class." So, what is your problem, other than they are of a different party?

You do remember the two years of filibuster proof congress, don't you? You know, the first two years, where Obamacare was forced through illegally, without the proper majority vote? Oh, and how many bills did Harry keep on his desk, refusing to allow a vote? Yes, I realize that you feel that it is a waste of his time if they are not Democrat bills. But, that is for another thread. One where you will have time to ask someone for a witty answer, because you appear to be too lazy to research your information for yourself.

When you try to fire a shot at someone, maybe should do your own research, because you are operating without a clue on Obamacare.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patien...dable_Care_Act

I know this is an awful lot of reading for you, so skip to the Senate portion. The Republicans didn't have 40 votes to continue with their filibuster. The votes to end the filibuster, and pass the law was 60 to 39. It has withstood two Supreme Court cases. Just because Republicans here always harp on the fact that it pasted illegally doesn't make it so. Read there entire article, and you will see how Obama did try to work with Republicans.

Since you have tagged those Democrats as classless, please name me one representative or senator that actually has class. Washington is a classless society.

How many votes did Harry keep on his desk? I am not sure, but there were at least 54+ votes to repeal Obamacare? That went up to 61. You have to admit it stupidity has no bounds. How did the vote to repeal Obamacare get passed in the Senate? There wasn't any Republican dancing around the filibuster rule was there? Hell no! The Republicans would stoop to something so low as that. How stupid do you to be to think Obama is not going to veto the bill? Republicans must think their followers are really stupid that a veto is necessary to convince them that the Republicans in the Senate and House aren't in favor of the bill. Sending a bill to repeal Obamacare 61 times isn't enough to get their point across to their followers.

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When you try to fire a shot at someone, maybe should do your own research, because you are operating without a clue on Obamacare.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patien...dable_Care_Act

I know this is an awful lot of reading for you, so skip to the Senate portion. The Republicans didn't have 40 votes to continue with their filibuster. The votes to end the filibuster, and pass the law was 60 to 39. It has withstood two Supreme Court cases. Just because Republicans here always harp on the fact that it pasted illegally doesn't make it so. Read there entire article, and you will see how Obama did try to work with Republicans.

Since you have tagged those Democrats as classless, please name me one representative or senator that actually has class. Washington is a classless society.

How many votes did Harry keep on his desk? I am not sure, but there were at least 54+ votes to repeal Obamacare? That went up to 61. You have to admit it stupidity has no bounds. How did the vote to repeal Obamacare get passed in the Senate? There wasn't any Republican dancing around the filibuster rule was there? Hell no! The Republicans would stoop to something so low as that. How stupid do you to be to think Obama is not going to veto the bill? Republicans must think their followers are really stupid that a veto is necessary to convince them that the Republicans in the Senate and House aren't in favor of the bill. Sending a bill to repeal Obamacare 61 times isn't enough to get their point across to their followers.

100 percent agree!
We have discussed this topic many times at our regular meeting at City Fire. The discussion gets better after a Makers Mark or three.

Originally Posted by Guest

Showing class. If you have class, you don't make fun of a person's appearance especially a woman. You don't make fun of a person energy, Bush. You don't point out a person's position on the stage. You don't question a person's right to become president, and then say I am just giving him advice. You don't backtrack on your over the top comments. You don't stand on the stage during a debate, and make funny faces.

Trump is a horse's ass. That statement means I don't have class. Oh, well. Too bad! So sad!

If you have class, you stick to issues, and make your positions known. If you say that you are going to get rid of something like Obamacare, you put your replacement out there. You knowing don't blow smoke to get elected, and then run away from your campaign promises.

Trump, and Cruz are nothing but noise.

On the previous post, we have never had a president as divisive as Obama. The assumption is that the Republican Congress doesn't have any responsibility for what happen. Mitch McConnell is the king of the filibuster. Boehner wouldn't put anything on the floor for a vote, in particular the bipartisan immigration bill, unless it passed the Hastert rule. Paul Ryan wouldn't accept the Speaker of the House position, if the Republican House members didn't change their attitude. There is plenty of blame to go around for the last 7+ years.

Dear Guest: On our side of the world I would agree to much of what you say. However, in the world of politics its eat or be eaten. In the world of politics everybody's your friend...not Witness how quickly Trump disarmed Bush by labeling him weak and low energy. Trump is good at sizing people up and he hit a home run there. Criticism is a tactic to disarm your opponent and even appearance is not off limits. Body language accounts for half of what one communicates and a funny face at the appropriate time can reap many benefits.

I despise politicians and politics but politics to a varying degree exists everywhere and it destroys many a good person. In the corporate world it is as fierce . Anyone coming into politics believing everyone is going to play fair and nice is being naive'. In the corporate world fierce political players are termed nut cutters, pardon the term. I lived that life like many here in TV and if you try and separate yourself as not being in the game they will roll right over you

the stakes are higher when you are running for a political office and the higher the office the higher the stakes and the higher the stakes the fiercer the game . Its not only Trump and Cruz who won't stick to an issue and/or are all noise its every candidate out there. One of the skills needed to run for office is to be an artful dodger....and frankly sometime its necessary because there are a lot of "got you" people out there.

Personal Best Regards:

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Dear Guest: On our side of the world I would agree to much of what you say. However, in the world of politics its eat or be eaten. In the world of politics everybody's your friend...not Witness how quickly Trump disarmed Bush by labeling him weak and low energy. Trump is good at sizing people up and he hit a home run there. Criticism is a tactic to disarm your opponent and even appearance is not off limits. Body language accounts for half of what one communicates and a funny face at the appropriate time can reap many benefits.

I despise politicians and politics but politics to a varying degree exists everywhere and it destroys many a good person. In the corporate world it is as fierce . Anyone coming into politics believing everyone is going to play fair and nice is being naive'. In the corporate world fierce political players are termed nut cutters, pardon the term. I lived that life like many here in TV and if you try and separate yourself as not being in the game they will roll right over you

the stakes are higher when you are running for a political office and the higher the office the higher the stakes and the higher the stakes the fiercer the game . Its not only Trump and Cruz who won't stick to an issue and/or are all noise its every candidate out there. One of the skills needed to run for office is to be an artful dodger....and frankly sometime its necessary because there are a lot of "got you" people out there.

Personal Best Regards:

I totally agree with you. Rule one is politics is say anything or do anything to get elected. Then, run for reelection on your record. If you have the best ideas in the world, they are worthless, if you don't get elected.

It is a given, that almost all candidates, whether they are questioned on TV, or in a debate, will do everything to avoid answering the question. A lot of the questions are pointed to either make them look bad, or go into detail something that they that said that made little sense, and were only made to get someone's vote. We are getting what we paid for dishonesty at its highest.

Sanders said that he has never gone negative in his campaigns. Right now, he doesn't have a choice. Hillary knows that she may not be the Democratic nominee, if she doesn't go negative on him. Since she is a real bitch, she is right at home going negative. If Sanders win both Iowa, and New Hampshire, another Democrat will enter the race probably someone, who has run before. If either Sanders or Clinton get elected, things in DC will get worse.

Trump is holding true to form by calling Cruz abrasive. He hit the nail on the head with that one. It was pointed out on Morning Joe this morning that Cruz, who is really hated in DC, couldn't get one Senator to bring something to the floor for discussion. How the hell is he going to get anything done , when both parties in DC don't like him.

Right now, we have the worse of all worlds. Trump, Cruz, Sanders, or Clinton being our next president would mean stop watch news programs on TV, and stop buying the newspaper. Nothing good will come out of any of these four.

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I totally agree with you. Rule one is politics is say anything or do anything to get elected. Then, run for reelection on your record. If you have the best ideas in the world, they are worthless, if you don't get elected.

It is a given, that almost all candidates, whether they are questioned on TV, or in a debate, will do everything to avoid answering the question. A lot of the questions are pointed to either make them look bad, or go into detail something that they that said that made little sense, and were only made to get someone's vote. We are getting what we paid for dishonesty at its highest.

Sanders said that he has never gone negative in his campaigns. Right now, he doesn't have a choice. Hillary knows that she may not be the Democratic nominee, if she doesn't go negative on him. Since she is a real bitch, she is right at home going negative. If Sanders win both Iowa, and New Hampshire, another Democrat will enter the race probably someone, who has run before. If either Sanders or Clinton get elected, things in DC will get worse.

Trump is holding true to form by calling Cruz abrasive. He hit the nail on the head with that one. It was pointed out on Morning Joe this morning that Cruz, who is really hated in DC, couldn't get one Senator to bring something to the floor for discussion. How the hell is he going to get anything done , when both parties in DC don't like him.

Right now, we have the worse of all worlds. Trump, Cruz, Sanders, or Clinton being our next president would mean stop watch news programs on TV, and stop buying the newspaper. Nothing good will come out of any of these four.

Fortunately there are candidates other than "these four"..........unfortunately not so for the democrats, hence they are stuck with one of the other republicans as well!

Keeping with the theme of the thread,

To liberals, if it is not PC then it is hate speech.

O'Malley during last night's debate, insisted that the other candidates not use the term "boots on the ground" because he said it is not politically correct. It offended someone he knew, so it is not a good term and must not be used.

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Fortunately there are candidates other than "these four"..........unfortunately not so for the democrats, hence they are stuck with one of the other republicans as well!

I hear what you are saying, but where do they go. I am an independent, but also a realist. If Kasich is still in the running at the time of the Florida primary, I will change my party and vote for him. If he isn't, I will not vote in the primary.

Rubio is inexperienced. Christie is loud, and may still have problem with the George Washington bridge nonsense. Bush name is a problem, but I may vote for him, if he is the Republican nominee. He is the lesser of all evils.