IRS refunds for illegals who didnt pay....

 
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Old 02-12-2015, 12:29 PM
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Did anyone else realize this was the case with the amnesty proclomation...

"IRS Commissioner John Koskinen told Congress on Wednesday that even illegal immigrants who didn’t pay taxes will be able to claim back-refunds once they get Social Security numbers under President Obama’s temporary deportation amnesty.

The revelation — which contradicts what he told Congress last week — comes as lawmakers also raised concerns Mr. Obama’s amnesty could open a window to illegal immigrants finding ways to vote, despite it being against the law."




Read more: IRS to pay back-refunds to illegal immigrants who didn't pay taxes - Washington Times
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Mr. Koskinen, testifying to the House oversight committee, said the White House never asked him or anyone else at the IRS about the potential tax effects of his amnesty policy.

“I haven’t talked to the White House about this at all,” he said.



"That expands the universe of people eligible for the tax credit by millions. He said only about 700,000 illegal immigrants currently work and pay taxes using an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, but as many as 4 million illegal immigrants could get a stay of deportation and work permits under the temporary amnesty, which would mean they would be eligible to claim back-refunds if they worked those years.

Rep. Mick Mulvaney, the South Carolina Republican who grilled Mr. Koskinen on the tax credits, said he was stunned the White House never checked with the IRS on the tax implications of its move."


Is nobody thinking these things through at all ?
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Old 02-12-2015, 12:38 PM
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They worked and either got paid legally - thus paying taxes - and should get a Refund if due one - same as you!

If they got paid under the table, no taxes paid, no refund.

These undocumented workers do the jobs not wanted by Americans such as working in slaughter houses,picking fruit, or planting potatoes (Dan Quayle helped with spelling).
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:17 PM
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They worked and either got paid legally - thus paying taxes - and should get a Refund if due one - same as you!
How does someone here ILLEGALLY obtain LEGAL employment? Isn't that an oxymoron?
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They worked and either got paid legally - thus paying taxes - and should get a Refund if due one - same as you!

If they got paid under the table, no taxes paid, no refund.

These undocumented workers do the jobs not wanted by Americans such as working in slaughter houses,picking fruit, or planting potatoes (Dan Quayle helped with spelling).

Richard.
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Old 02-12-2015, 02:05 PM
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Richard.
Sounds like it
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Old 02-12-2015, 02:15 PM
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How does someone here ILLEGALLY obtain LEGAL employment? Isn't that an oxymoron?
One of Gary Morse's (may he RIP) favorite hiring sources.
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Old 02-12-2015, 02:18 PM
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They worked and either got paid legally - thus paying taxes - and should get a Refund if due one - same as you!

If they got paid under the table, no taxes paid, no refund.

These undocumented workers do the jobs not wanted by Americans such as working in slaughter houses,picking fruit, or planting potatoes (Dan Quayle helped with spelling).
You obviously did not read the link, nor think through all the implications....

"“That’s just outrageous,” he said. “If Congress had passed a law doing exactly what the president did, we would have had not only an estimate of the costs, but we would have also been required to propose ways to pay for the programs. This is just another example of the administration operating outside the rule of law.”

Mr. Koskinen said he didn’t know how much money the tax refunds would cost, and said the White House never checked with him before announcing the amnesty. He said the maximum annual credit is between $500 and $600 for an individual.



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AND it is beginning to invade the voting sphere.

Sorry, you cannot see any implications except for the same constant statements when discussing this issue. We all know about "the jobs not wanted by Americans such as working in slaughter houses,picking fruit, or planting potatoes". You never seem to see the implications, or dont care
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:58 PM
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Old 02-12-2015, 06:52 PM
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This is clearly an attempt by the jack booted thugs at the IRS to round up and incarcerate hard working tax paying people. Once they get the names and addresses and even bank routing numbers they can find them and arrest them for using someone else's SSN while working as these illegals don't have their own.
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Old 02-12-2015, 06:57 PM
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Not until our so called leaders have to balance the federal budget will any of this be addressed, not enough people care. If it was actually costing them every month that would be a game changer. Example the ongoing conflicts that many want to escalate without paying for it.
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:16 PM
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What I cannot understand is with all the ITINS scams that have taken place...for example and I will link to SNOPES to save all the time...

"The Internal Revenue Service sent 23,994 tax refunds worth a combined $46,378,040 to "unauthorized" alien workers who all used the same address in Atlanta, Ga., in 2011, according to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).

That was not the only Atlanta address theoretically occupied by thousands of "unauthorized" alien workers receiving millions in federal tax refunds in 2011. In fact, according to a TIGTA audit report published last year, four of the top ten addresses to which the IRS sent thousands of tax refunds to "unauthorized" aliens were in Atlanta.

The IRS sent 11,284 refunds worth a combined $2,164,976 to unauthorized alien workers at a second Atlanta address; 3,608 worth $2,691,448 to a third; and 2,386 worth $1,232,943 to a fourth.


Read more at snopes.com: Thousands of Tax Refunds Sent to the Same Addresses

All judged true by SNOPES and the below is from last sumer...

"A new report from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration said that while the IRS is doing better when it comes to identifying questionable Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITINs), the government agency still has work to do. The TIGTA report comes after an audit from last year that showed IRS supervisors encouraging employees to ignore potential fraud regarding ITINs from immigrant workers and their employers."

TIGTA focuses on ITIN fraud and IRS response | 1099News

Now this is, to my knowledge the only way illegal immigrants could file anything with the government......and I cannot understand how this hole continues and is not going to be more prolific.
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Can you imagine how many children they claimed and got the tax credit.

I also wonder why they rehired the IRS employes that got fired.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:45 AM
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Can you imagine how many children they claimed and got the tax credit.

I also wonder why they rehired the IRS employes that got fired.
Because no one in the government is ever held responsible for anything. The IRS is also hiring the company that created the great Obamacare website debacle to develop the program to check subsidies. Are you kidding me??? They already showed incompetence but are being rehired.

So Congress has hearing and everyone gets spittin mad, but no one ever does anything but talk about it. I'm disgusted with all of them.

And did you know there are enough outstanding federal taxes owed by IRS employees that would cover the additional money they are asking congress for. Unbelievable - you can work for the IRS and owe back taxes!
 


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