If you relax, take partisanship out of the equation and read the entire link, you will find a few gems from great, classic, understated British humor. Please enjoy.

This is how Brits views our current campaign. Maybe being out of the mainstream media, their view may be more valid than our own. (The Brits have a great sense of humor!)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nightmare.html

I understand where you're coming from Cabo, and I love British humor, but I'm very weary of our country being the laughing stock of the world. "McCain's sense of mischief." What a stupid statement.

I'm not afraid of her, honestly. I think she's a bad joke. What I am afraid of is that emotion is running this election. This morning, I believe on the Chris Matthews show, it was stated that the highest percentage of women supporting Palin were uneducated. That's what scares me. Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision. I find that very frightening.

Bush was the kind of guy you'd like to have a beer with. Palin is the kind of gal you'd like to have a beer with. Well, have a beer with them but for God's sake, don't let them run this country.

"That's what scares me. Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision."
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Should we simply deny them the vote until they reach your lofty standards ?

Originally Posted by Bucco

"That's what scares me. Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision."
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Should we simply deny them the vote until they reach your lofty standards ?

No, Bucco, we should guarantee each and every American an education continuing through college. I don't know if you even realize how far behind the rest of the world we are. And there's simply no excuse for it.

No, Bucco, we should guarantee each and every American an education continuing through college. I don't know if you even realize how far behind the rest of the world we are. And there's simply no excuse for it.
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But in the meantime you are scared that uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion are making this deicison...that kind of comment scares me much more than anything. I, as a Democrat, many years ago was charged with the task of making sure that folks who didnt even know who was running for office registered and voted. I am sure that both parties have and still do it. In 2004 in this state, it happend so much it was ridiculous.

That aside, your statement, IN MY OPINION, is extremely elitist and has nothing to do with any education reform that we need !

Originally Posted by Bucco

No, Bucco, we should guarantee each and every American an education continuing through college. I don't know if you even realize how far behind the rest of the world we are. And there's simply no excuse for it.
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But in the meantime you are scared that uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion are making this deicison...that kind of comment scares me much more than anything. I, as a Democrat, many years ago was charged with the task of making sure that folks who didnt even know who was running for office registered and voted. I am sure that both parties have and still do it. In 2004 in this state, it happend so much it was ridiculous.

That aside, your statement, IN MY OPINION, is extremely elitist and has nothing to do with any education reform that we need !

Maybe it is, Bucco. Call it what you like, label it if you must, but that is my fear.

I don't consider that a slam because our founding forefathers would have been called "elitist"
in this day and age.

Based on what measurement....somebodies feeling or a REAL measurement worth repeating. Is that a party specific category? Or does it exist in both parties? I wonder what the definition is of uneducated?

Like too many comments in today's media and the likes of this forum and others...when something even sounds close to supporting their belief or against their opposition....it is picked up and repeated as if it were documented truth.
In too many cases comments are out of context which = useless!
Or something said by an individual or group that taking the overall into account, by numbers would be statistically insignificant.....yet espoused as though supported by an over whelming majority.
Passion for one's position, belief, opinion, political party or favorite color....fantabulous.
Ongoing sniping and unsubstantiated cheap shots by either side, by the media, this forum and others et al = waste of time.

Oh I figured out the definition of uneducated. I looked it up in the Nancy Pelosi dictionary of terms...uneducated; anything or anybody in support of the other party

BTK

BTK

Originally Posted by Guest

Based on what measurement....somebodies feeling or a REAL measurement worth repeating. Is that a party specific category? Or does it exist in both parties? I wonder what the definition is of uneducated?

Like too many comments in today's media and the likes of this forum and others...when something even sounds close to supporting their belief or against their opposition....it is picked up and repeated as if it were documented truth.
In too many cases comments are out of context which = useless!
Or something said by an individual or group that taking the overall into account, by numbers would be statistically insignificant.....yet espoused as though supported by an over whelming majority.
Passion for one's position, belief, opinion, political party or favorite color....fantabulous.
Ongoing sniping and unsubstantiated cheap shots by either side, by the media, this forum and others et al = waste of time.

Oh I figured out the definition of uneducated. I looked it up in the Nancy Pelosi dictionary of terms...uneducated; anything or anybody in support of the other party

BTK

BTK

Sorry, should have stated that they were talking about both parties in different respects. No hidden meaning. Uneducated means uneducated. I think if they had meant not college educated they would have said that. This is not a partisan comment. Yours was.

Originally Posted by chelsea24

No, Bucco, we should guarantee each and every American an education continuing through college. I don't know if you even realize how far behind the rest of the world we are. And there's simply no excuse for it.

We are behind the rest of the world because our publilc education system has deteriorated so much in the last 50 years that today's bachelor's degree is worth less than the high school diploma of 1959. Guaranteeing kids a public school education through what is now "grade 16" will not reduce the academic deficiency curve. Total reform of public education is what is required.

Well, the young people coming home from Iraq sure aren't going to be using the GI Bill to further their educations. I believe Sen. McCain said he doesn't support raising the money given to these brave young men and women through the GI Bill because too many would fail to re-up and only do one tour of duty. Unlike their grandfathers, they can't afford the luxury of going to college, living on campus, having meals, books, etc. covered.

"That's what scares me. Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision."

That's what scares me. Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision."

"No, Bucco, we should guarantee each and every American an education continuing through college. I don't know if you even realize how far behind the rest of the world we are. And there's simply no excuse for it."
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Chelsea....I would like to just clarify your above quotes when discussing the fact that you feel scared that "Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision."

Seems that you are advocating a few things here...some sort of testing before giving the right to vote which is totally against what this country stands for and I hope that is not what you meant when you said this.

Secondly, are you advocating that the US Government "guarantee each and every American an education continuing through college." using taxpayers money to do so ?

Originally Posted by Bucco

"That's what scares me. Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision."

That's what scares me. Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision."

"No, Bucco, we should guarantee each and every American an education continuing through college. I don't know if you even realize how far behind the rest of the world we are. And there's simply no excuse for it."
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Chelsea....I would like to just clarify your above quotes when discussing the fact that you feel scared that "Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision."

Seems that you are advocating a few things here...some sort of testing before giving the right to vote which is totally against what this country stands for and I hope that is not what you meant when you said this.

Secondly, are you advocating that the US Government "guarantee each and every American an education continuing through college." using taxpayers money to do so ?

Don't put words into my mouth Bucco. I never said people should be tested to vote. I do believe this country should reform education and yes, guarantee each and every American an education continuing through college. France does this.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0070254AAA2bMh

Why are we so behind other countries?

Originally Posted by cmj

Well, the young people coming home from Iraq sure aren't going to be using the GI Bill to further their educations. I believe Sen. McCain said he doesn't support raising the money given to these brave young men and women through the GI Bill because too many would fail to re-up and only do one tour of duty. Unlike their grandfathers, they can't afford the luxury of going to college, living on campus, having meals, books, etc. covered.

The "GI Bill" has been shaped and reshaped many times throughout its existence. Each generation of veterans has witnessed a "GI Bill" with many different provisions, coverages, limits, and time periods different than the last.

The question is what is its purpose? If the "GI Bill" is to be part of a comprehensive benefit/compensation package for servicepersons, so be it at the level in place. if it supposed to be some kind of after-action reward plan, that's another thing in entiriety. If it is an inducement for retention or recruitment, that's a third.

The current "GI Bill" was enacted in 1985 to align with the all-volunteer military concept, pay levels placed into effect and other factors of military compensation.

I don't believe you can ever compensate a disabled veteran "adequately" for his/her service. I do believe that "GI Bill" education benefits available for all veterans are indeed "compensation" just like those offered by many companies, and the level of this "compensation" will vary with the times and the need. I used my GI Bill education benefits, and considered it part of my overall pay - not something that I should feel grateful for as some welfare program or "conscience money" from the public at large.

We place candidates in a precarious position, and I mean all four of them. We want them to be open-hearted and generous, and at the same time we expect them to demonstrate sound executive judgment regarding work forces, budget-balancing and getting the most for our money. On any issue which has a "feel good" factor to it, it's easy to condemn any candidate for not embracing it fully - just as it is easy to condemn for making "objective" decisions based on education, training and logical judgment.

"I'm not afraid of her, honestly. I think she's a bad joke. What I am afraid of is that emotion is running this election. This morning, I believe on the Chris Matthews show, it was stated that the highest percentage of women supporting Palin were uneducated. That's what scares me. Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision. I find that very frightening."
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Above is your quote, in context ! I do not believe I "put words...." in your mouth at all.
You said you are afraid of the emotion shown in this election, and I assume you mean ONLY on the Republican side and not the emotion on the Democrat side because you stand on that side...just my assumption based on what you say !

You very specifically said that you were scared of "Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision. I find that very frightening."

All I can assume from this statement in context is that those poor uneducated folks who may support Gov Palin or Sen McCain will actually have a vote....my further assumption would be that you think if the smart people could vote, Sen Obama would be a shoo in.

Maybe nobody else finds that extremely offensive but I sure do. I will vote for Sen McCain and Gov Palin for the reasons I have said before, and I consider myself to be educated...perhaps not to your standards but educated enough to find my way to that polling place without getting lost !

Again, maybe I am alone finding your comments very offensive...but I certainly do ! Frankly if I supported Sen Obama I would find your comments to be offensive.

Originally Posted by Bucco

"I'm not afraid of her, honestly. I think she's a bad joke. What I am afraid of is that emotion is running this election. This morning, I believe on the Chris Matthews show, it was stated that the highest percentage of women supporting Palin were uneducated. That's what scares me. Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision. I find that very frightening."
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Above is your quote, in context ! I do not believe I "put words...." in your mouth at all.
You said you are afraid of the emotion shown in this election, and I assume you mean ONLY on the Republican side and not the emotion on the Democrat side because you stand on that side...just my assumption based on what you say !

You very specifically said that you were scared of "Uneducated people in this country, filled with emotion, making this monumental decision. I find that very frightening."

All I can assume from this statement in context is that those poor uneducated folks who may support Gov Palin or Sen McCain will actually have a vote....my further assumption would be that you think if the smart people could vote, Sen Obama would be a shoo in.

Maybe nobody else finds that extremely offensive but I sure do. I will vote for Sen McCain and Gov Palin for the reasons I have said before, and I consider myself to be educated...perhaps not to your standards but educated enough to find my way to that polling place without getting lost !

Again, maybe I am alone finding your comments very offensive...but I certainly do ! Frankly if I supported Sen Obama I would find your comments to be offensive.

Well Bucco, you seem to think everything I write on this board is offensive and for some strange reason, directly aimed at you. That's simply not the case. There are extremely uneducated people on both sides. In this great country, that just should not be. Our educational system stinks to high Heaven Bucco and if you don't know that -- just google all the cheat sheets for the major colleges. Also, take a look at the cost of colleges. I have a stepson that went to Stanford, another stepson that went to Wharton and a daughter that went to Berkley. Can you even imagine the costs of these colleges? We need to reform our educational system. Period. Everyone deserves a great education and health care from the greatest country in the world. I don't think that's asking too much.

I'm not blaming the people! I'm blaming our government! So, my initial statement still stands. A surplus of uneducated people making a monumental decision! It's the truth. If you believe McCain can deliver this, then find your way to the voting booth (your words, not mine) and vote for him. I personally don't and won't vote for him. And, please, don't assume anything with me. It doesn't work.