Pearls of stupidity from the mouth of an idiot. Who does Huckabee think believes this garbage? What is his audience?

"If the courts rule that people have a civil right not only to be a homosexual but a civil right to have a homosexual marriage, then a homosexual couple coming to a pastor who believes in biblical marriage who says ‘I can’t perform that wedding’ will now be breaking the law,” he said. “It’s not just saying, ‘I’m sorry you have a preference.’ No, you will be breaking the law subject to civil for sure and possible criminal penalties for violating the law…. If you do practice biblical convictions and you carry them out and you do what you’ve been led by the spirit of God to do, your behavior will be criminal."

You would think (a word perhaps not in Huckabee's skill set) that someone who might have actually performed a few marriages for straight couples in his life would understand that as a "God tells me what to do" person he could refuse to marry any straight couple who came before him in his Church of Huckabee. He could refuse to marry Muslims and Jews and Catholics and Mormons and anyone he wanted to refuse to marry for any reason whatsoever and they had absolutely no civil or legal recourse to force Huckabee to say any magical words he didn't want to say in his Church of Huckabee. And no police are going to arrest him for the crime of not saying his words in his Church of Huckabee. But he cannot seem to understand that were the couple say two men or say two women or say two people he couldn't figure out what they were without checking their tingly parts himself, he could still refuse to marry them no differently than he can refuse now to perform his super special Huckabee approved Church of Huckabee wedding for any damn reason he wants. The man is an idiot.

Originally Posted by Guest

Pearls of stupidity from the mouth of an idiot. Who does Huckabee think believes this garbage? What is his audience?

"If the courts rule that people have a civil right not only to be a homosexual but a civil right to have a homosexual marriage, then a homosexual couple coming to a pastor who believes in biblical marriage who says ‘I can’t perform that wedding’ will now be breaking the law,” he said. “It’s not just saying, ‘I’m sorry you have a preference.’ No, you will be breaking the law subject to civil for sure and possible criminal penalties for violating the law…. If you do practice biblical convictions and you carry them out and you do what you’ve been led by the spirit of God to do, your behavior will be criminal."

You would think (a word perhaps not in Huckabee's skill set) that someone who might have actually performed a few marriages for straight couples in his life would understand that as a "God tells me what to do" person he could refuse to marry any straight couple who came before him in his Church of Huckabee. He could refuse to marry Muslims and Jews and Catholics and Mormons and anyone he wanted to refuse to marry for any reason whatsoever and they had absolutely no civil or legal recourse to force Huckabee to say any magical words he didn't want to say in his Church of Huckabee. And no police are going to arrest him for the crime of not saying his words in his Church of Huckabee. But he cannot seem to understand that were the couple say two men or say two women or say two people he couldn't figure out what they were without checking their tingly parts himself, he could still refuse to marry them no differently than he can refuse now to perform his super special Huckabee approved Church of Huckabee wedding for any damn reason he wants. The man is an idiot.

I take it you are homosexual and upset, but for the life of me I can't follow your logic.

I'm guessing Huckabee was referring to the Klein's in Oregon who were just fined $140,000 for not baking a cake for a homosexual wedding. Huckabee is simply pointing out fact in relation to this latest Oregon ruling. I have no clue why you are so upset.

You are perhaps as unable to grasp reality as the demagogue Huckabee. How you think that anyone who supports gay rights must also be gay tells me much about your ability to process and analyze. Anyone who supports women's rights must be a woman, anyone who supports minority rights must be a person of color. So I guess I am a black female gay transgender undocumented atheist.

Huckabee is displaying, as are you, he complete lack of comprehension of the rights of a church to refuse to do anything it does not want to do (other than comply with basic health and safety) as protected by the first amendment. He should know, but acts as if the doesn't that a church person cannot be compelled to provide any church service to anyone it doesn't want to. His completely moronic argument that a minister of his church will be forced by civil or criminal law to give his particular brand of Jesus's ok and perform a church sanctioned service is complete garbage. And for you to attempt to conflate the protections given a church with the requirements of a public business shows your lack of analytical skill. We have had gay marriage in many many states for a few years. Show me one single example where any church person has been forced by the government or the courts to perform a wedding against the will of that church. Show me any example of any church service of any kind that is compelled by law to be provided against the will of a church. It does not exist. This is simple legal comprehension, and certainly a minister ought to understand how the courts would impact his profession, other than the profession of demagogue.

More Huckabee lack of understanding. See how many errors in understanding the function of the Supreme Court you can find in this pearl of stupidity.

"Getting a decision from the court, it's not tantamount to saying 'well that settles it. It's the law of the land.' And when I hear people say that I just cringe and I'm thinking 'How many people pass 9th grade civics?' This is not that complicated. There are three branches of government, not one. We don't like it if the executive branch overreaches and pretends that it can act in difference to the other two. And neither can we sit back and allow the court, one branch of government to overrule the other two. And so when a court rules that same sex marriage is okay, it doesn't mean that the next day, marriage licenses should be issued for same sex couples. It simply means that if the legislature agrees with that court decision and the representatives of the people—the elected officials—if they then put that into legislation and it is signed and enforced by the executive branch, then you have same sex marriage. But until those other two branches act, what you have is a court opinion and nothing else."

Somebody send Huckabee that 9th grade textbook as he slept through the class. Tell him that what the Supreme Court says is exactly the law of the land. And if the Court bases its decision on the Constitution the only mechanism to change the law of the land is to amend the constitution or get a new case on the same issue before the court. If it is based on non-constitutional issues but interpretation of statute, then a new statute passed by the legislature and signed by the executive branch can alter the law of the land. And until that happens the decision of the court is the law. Period. But you knew that from school.

And what the ... does this GOP frontrunner mean by the court giving people "the civil right to be a homosexual" I didn't know that people needed the court to grant them a right to be the way they are born. Soon the court might give people the right to be black or even to be a woman. Who knows what the court might come up with next. Good thing the decision of the court doesn't mean anything until the other branches of government agree.

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You are perhaps as unable to grasp reality as the demagogue Huckabee. How you think that anyone who supports gay rights must also be gay tells me much about your ability to process and analyze. Anyone who supports women's rights must be a woman, anyone who supports minority rights must be a person of color. So I guess I am a black female gay transgender undocumented atheist.

Huckabee is displaying, as are you, he complete lack of comprehension of the rights of a church to refuse to do anything it does not want to do (other than comply with basic health and safety) as protected by the first amendment. He should know, but acts as if the doesn't that a church person cannot be compelled to provide any church service to anyone it doesn't want to. His completely moronic argument that a minister of his church will be forced by civil or criminal law to give his particular brand of Jesus's ok and perform a church sanctioned service is complete garbage. And for you to attempt to conflate the protections given a church with the requirements of a public business shows your lack of analytical skill. We have had gay marriage in many many states for a few years. Show me one single example where any church person has been forced by the government or the courts to perform a wedding against the will of that church. Show me any example of any church service of any kind that is compelled by law to be provided against the will of a church. It does not exist. This is simple legal comprehension, and certainly a minister ought to understand how the courts would impact his profession, other than the profession of demagogue.

The only thing I gathered from your incoherent rant is that you're one angry homosexual sympathizer!

Originally Posted by Guest

The only thing I gathered from your incoherent rant is that you're one angry homosexual sympathizer!

Yes, my conclusion as well.

Originally Posted by Guest

The only thing I gathered from your incoherent rant is that you're one angry homosexual sympathizer!

The Supreme Court will hear this case on Tuesday and announce their decision in June, then Gov Huckabee will learn if the legislature gets to act or not.

When the ROE V Wade decision came down, each state did not get to decide if abortion was legal. The same goes with Brown V Board of Education. Eachstate did not get to decide if they would desegregate their schools.

The Op could be someone who believes in equal rights under the law. And, BTW, someone who 61% of Americans agree with.

Originally Posted by Guest

The only thing I gathered from your incoherent rant is that you're one angry homosexual sympathizer!

Or the OP could be someone who believes in "equal protection under the law" which is included in the 14th amendment. The Supreme Court will have its say.

Prop 8 Attorneys: Marriage Equality Coming Soon - NBC News


For those that missed today's "Meet the Press", Attorneys David Boies and Ted Olsen said they believe the votes are there for the justices to rule in favor of same-sex marriage in all 50 states.

These are the same attorneys who argued successfully to overturn California's Proposition 8.

This case will be argued in front of the Supreme Court on Tuesday.

Its unfortunate that 9 people get to decide this issue. This is one of those issue that ouht to remain in the hands of the state. forget about the separation of powers. Obama has already rendered his opinion as did the presumptive new president Hillary. Congress has no political courage. And Huckabee is right . As a Pharmacistis is forced to issue birth control even if against his/her religion so too will clergy be forced to perform same-sex marriages . If the supreme court breaches the definition of marriage being between a man and a woman our social landscape of people etc is going to look more like the bar in aStar Wars movie.

I came across an old movie Cruisin (Encore) with Al Pacino playing an under cover cop in the homosexual community investigating killings by a serial killer.

That movie reaffirmed my position

The nuclear family was the bedrock of America but it has been and continues to be attack by liberals and secularist and if they succeed our biggest threat is not going to be nuclear or climate or invasion from a
foreign enemy its going to be moral decay

As a Pharmacist is forced to issue birth control even if against his/her religion so too will clergy be forced to perform same-sex marriages .

What part of separation of church and state are you failing to grasp. Clergy are not pharmacists, Churches are not drug stores. The former are non-secular the latter are secular. What laws apply to pharmacies do not apply to churches. A cleric is required by his church to serve his flock, not to provide services to any other people, just his people. A cleric is ordained by his church, the government gets no say in what training, continuing education or even morality the cleric must have (see Catholic church and pedophilia as an example), A pharmacist is licensed by the state with a specific set of regulations on training, morality, and ongoing education. Can you see the difference? The only organization that could force a cleric to officiate a same sex marriage is the hierarchy of that church if they decree that it is requirement for their clergy.

Just a quick answer to the OP's original question:

Huckabee is sooooooo far down the idiot highway that Total Idiot is just a faint glimmer in the rear view mirror.

I believe a Christian minister should have the right to not marry other faiths, but if two of the same sex profess to being Christian, then the minister is obligated to perform the ceremony. Let God judge. Too many people of faith misinterpret the meaning of their own faith.

Message from an intelegent kind hearted man of faith.

Losing my religion for equality

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Message from an intelegent kind hearted man of faith.

Losing my religion for equality

With all due respect to someone who was a former President of the United States, that is one "messed up" article that he wrote. Comparing Christianity to Islam as if they hold the same values where women are concerned. As a woman, I found the whole thing very insulting! President Carter has truly morphed into a champion for liberals. For someone who professes to be a life-long Christian, he appears to know very little about it. Or perhaps it's just the brain fog setting in that seems to go along with becoming a liberal.