Originally Posted by Guest

" Argumenum Adhominum " was posted instead of Argumentum ad Hominem. I guess it was a typo.

That phrase is new to me. I'm not an attorney. Most posts I see antiquated, misogynistic and racist.

The Political Talk is boring, repetitive and insulting but it is the only game in town. So for now it amuses me and sometimes leads me in a new direction. Today I learned more about the press in the Korean War and and the Phil Donahue Show with Bill Clinton, Gore and Jerry Brown. I guess after awhile it will get old.

The new trend is to tell everyone your degree and your IQ just to impress others.

Forgive me, not my intent. They questioned why I felt I was smarter than most Americans. I admit, I lowered myself...

Whadda ya want to talk about? Honestly...

Oh, I didn't read the book about the press and the KW, but just because a guy writes a book about something doesn't make it true. The TV shows...you "learned" something? From a scripted show with scripted questions and answers?

You didn't know about the Ad Hom of debate, so you're not seasoned here on the forums. I speak my mind and the truth as it is to me at the present. Things change, facts revealed, attitudes change.

So...what's on your mind? Start a topic.

Originally Posted by Guest

Forgive me, not my intent. They questioned why I felt I was smarter than most Americans. I admit, I lowered myself...

Whadda ya want to talk about? Honestly...

Oh, I didn't read the book about the press and the KW, but just because a guy writes a book about something doesn't make it true. The TV shows...you "learned" something? From a scripted show with scripted questions and answers?

You didn't know about the Ad Hom of debate, so you're not seasoned here on the forums. I speak my mind and the truth as it is to me at the present. Things change, facts revealed, attitudes change.

So...what's on your mind? Start a topic.

While you are at it why don`t you share what your profession was and also your net worth . I would assume that there should be a strong relationship between your IQ and your net worth .

Originally Posted by Guest

Forgive me, not my intent. They questioned why I felt I was smarter than most Americans. I admit, I lowered myself...

Whadda ya want to talk about? Honestly...

Oh, I didn't read the book about the press and the KW, but just because a guy writes a book about something doesn't make it true. The TV shows...you "learned" something? From a scripted show with scripted questions and answers?

You didn't know about the Ad Hom of debate, so you're not seasoned here on the forums. I speak my mind and the truth as it is to me at the present. Things change, facts revealed, attitudes change.

So...what's on your mind? Start a topic.

More braggadocio BS!

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More braggadocio BS!

Originally Posted by Guest

Not my opinions but simple historical facts . And despite what you have concluded I am not ant-Gay . I am just tired of all of the over-compensated attention they are getting . I hired and employed Gay and Lesbian people .

They have equality so now shut-up so we can deal with issues which impact the Majority of Americans such as real jobs which pay a true living wage .
We need to get all those Sociology , Anthropology and Psychology BA/BS kids out of their Mom`s basement don`t you think ?
And Hillary is not the solution . See the issue about the 250,000 jobs she promised voters in New York .

I did not conclude you were anti gay. All I concluded was that you weren't voting for Hillary. I also concluded you are highly opinionated and that some of your opinions are not based on facts.

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I did not conclude you were anti gay. All I concluded was that you weren't voting for Hillary. I also concluded you are highly opinionated and that some of your opinions are not based on facts.

What facts are you disputing?

Hillary Clinton, Barak (Barry) Obama and all of the other, so called Liberal Socialists will be outed when the people who really know them can speak the truth about them. The fact that we have a President about whom we never get the truth, is disgusting to me since I have seen Republicans dragged through the dirt by the liberal media. The fact that we know so little about Barak Obama, after 8 years as President, and Hillary after 30 years in public life is outrageous. If you want to see the, "you know what hit the fan," just wait to see the media go after Donald Trump should he become the Republican nominee. I blame the press for much of what is not told about the Democrat candidates. And it is apparent at all levels of government but especially at the National level. This is a crucial year for our country, the 20 trillion in debt they all acknowledge is just the tip of the ice berg, it is the local, county, state and federal pensions along with social security and medicare that scare the heck out of me and NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT ANY OF IT! Could it be they know it is more than 100 trillion? I would guess yes! Wake up America and put someone in the White House with real life experience not a hack politician with no real life experience. Remember who founded America, a bunch of wealthy people with everything to lose that served and went home. There were no lifetime politicians then and should not be any now! Hillary - Bah Humbug!

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What facts are you disputing?

I think your whole piece is opinion. There may be a fact somewhere, but you haven't listed any source of your facts. I don't care who you vote for and it was nice that you shared your opinion. I have lots of friends voting for Trump. I think he will make a lousy President and hope he loses. I, too, have lots of opinions why. I certainly hope at this point anybody reading these forums knows who they are voting for and why.

Originally Posted by Guest

What facts are you disputing?

I think your whole piece is opinion. There may be a fact somewhere, but you haven't listed any source of your facts. I don't care who you vote for and it was nice that you shared your opinion. I have lots of friends voting for Trump. I think he will make a lousy President and hope he loses. I, too, have lots of opinions why. I certainly hope at this point anybody reading these forums knows who they are voting for and why.

Originally Posted by Guest

I think your whole piece is opinion. There may be a fact somewhere, but you haven't listed any source of your facts. I don't care who you vote for and it was nice that you shared your opinion. I have lots of friends voting for Trump. I think he will make a lousy President and hope he loses. I, too, have lots of opinions why. I certainly hope at this point anybody reading these forums knows who they are voting for and why.

I think your whole piece is cr@p. That's an opinion.
YOU ARE full of cr@p. That's fact.

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Great points. I always vote for the the winner of the Democratic primary. I just didn't know this time I am voting for a lesbian breeder. I like the way you turn your opinions into facts. You must be an intellectual.

I don't know who you are, but god you make me laugh. Thank you!

Anyways, for the uneducated who seem to have missed what Hillary's accomplishments are, here goes:

Although her major initiative, the Clinton health care plan failed, it certainly set the groundwork for the health care law we have today, the Affordable Care Act. And she played a leading role in advocating the creation of the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which provides state support for children whose parents cannot provide them with health coverage. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses. She also played a leading role in creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act. She encouraged older women to seek a mammogram for early detection of breast cancer (which is covered by Medicare) and successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the NIH. She worked to investigate illnesses that were reportedly affecting Veterans of the Gulf War; now commonly known as Gulf War Syndrome. And she created an Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. She is also the first first lady to hold a post graduate degree, and she traveled to more countries than any other first lady had at that time.


As a U.S. senator, she was the first first lady to be elected to this office. She was instrumental in securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment. She subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues that 9/11 first responders were facing.

After visiting soldiers in Iraq, Clinton noted that the insurgency had failed to disrupt the democratic elections held earlier, and that parts of the country were functioning well. Noting that war deployments were draining regular and reserve forces, she cointroduced legislation to increase the size of the regular Army by 80,000 soldiers to ease the strain and supported retaining and improving health benefits for veterans. She also she introduced the Family Entertainment Protection Act.

That was just in her first term. She was easily re-elected and accomplished much in her second term as well. And who can forget her run for the presidency, receiving more than 17 million votes during the nomination process?


As our secretary of state, Clinton visited 112 countries, helping to repair a badly damaged U.S. reputation. She advocated an expanded role in global economic issues for the State Department and cited the need for an increased U.S. diplomatic presence, especially in Iraq, where the Defense Department had conducted diplomatic missions. Clinton unveiled the Global Hunger and Food Security program, prevailed over Vice President Biden to send an additional 21,000 troops to Afghanistan, saved the signing of a Turkish-Armenian accord, and assisted the president with major decisions as to the U.S. position with regard to the revolution in Egypt and the decision to use military force in Libya.

Originally Posted by Guest

Anyways, for the uneducated who seem to have missed what Hillary's accomplishments are, here goes:

Although her major initiative, the Clinton health care plan failed, it certainly set the groundwork for the health care law we have today, the Affordable Care Act. And she played a leading role in advocating the creation of the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which provides state support for children whose parents cannot provide them with health coverage. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses. She also played a leading role in creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act. She encouraged older women to seek a mammogram for early detection of breast cancer (which is covered by Medicare) and successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the NIH. She worked to investigate illnesses that were reportedly affecting Veterans of the Gulf War; now commonly known as Gulf War Syndrome. And she created an Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. She is also the first first lady to hold a post graduate degree, and she traveled to more countries than any other first lady had at that time.


As a U.S. senator, she was the first first lady to be elected to this office. She was instrumental in securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment. She subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues that 9/11 first responders were facing.

After visiting soldiers in Iraq, Clinton noted that the insurgency had failed to disrupt the democratic elections held earlier, and that parts of the country were functioning well. Noting that war deployments were draining regular and reserve forces, she cointroduced legislation to increase the size of the regular Army by 80,000 soldiers to ease the strain and supported retaining and improving health benefits for veterans. She also she introduced the Family Entertainment Protection Act.

That was just in her first term. She was easily re-elected and accomplished much in her second term as well. And who can forget her run for the presidency, receiving more than 17 million votes during the nomination process?


As our secretary of state, Clinton visited 112 countries, helping to repair a badly damaged U.S. reputation. She advocated an expanded role in global economic issues for the State Department and cited the need for an increased U.S. diplomatic presence, especially in Iraq, where the Defense Department had conducted diplomatic missions. Clinton unveiled the Global Hunger and Food Security program, prevailed over Vice President Biden to send an additional 21,000 troops to Afghanistan, saved the signing of a Turkish-Armenian accord, and assisted the president with major decisions as to the U.S. position with regard to the revolution in Egypt and the decision to use military force in Libya.

So, basically after cutting and pasting from her website or wikipedia, you still couldn't come up with any accomplishments? I have seen better resume's from newly graduated high school students. I would think one could embellish better than that.

Originally Posted by Guest

Anyways, for the uneducated who seem to have missed what Hillary's accomplishments are, here goes:

Although her major initiative, the Clinton health care plan failed, it certainly set the groundwork for the health care law we have today, the Affordable Care Act. And she played a leading role in advocating the creation of the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which provides state support for children whose parents cannot provide them with health coverage. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses. She also played a leading role in creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act. She encouraged older women to seek a mammogram for early detection of breast cancer (which is covered by Medicare) and successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the NIH. She worked to investigate illnesses that were reportedly affecting Veterans of the Gulf War; now commonly known as Gulf War Syndrome. And she created an Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. She is also the first first lady to hold a post graduate degree, and she traveled to more countries than any other first lady had at that time.


As a U.S. senator, she was the first first lady to be elected to this office. She was instrumental in securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment. She subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues that 9/11 first responders were facing.

After visiting soldiers in Iraq, Clinton noted that the insurgency had failed to disrupt the democratic elections held earlier, and that parts of the country were functioning well. Noting that war deployments were draining regular and reserve forces, she cointroduced legislation to increase the size of the regular Army by 80,000 soldiers to ease the strain and supported retaining and improving health benefits for veterans. She also she introduced the Family Entertainment Protection Act.

That was just in her first term. She was easily re-elected and accomplished much in her second term as well. And who can forget her run for the presidency, receiving more than 17 million votes during the nomination process?


As our secretary of state, Clinton visited 112 countries, helping to repair a badly damaged U.S. reputation. She advocated an expanded role in global economic issues for the State Department and cited the need for an increased U.S. diplomatic presence, especially in Iraq, where the Defense Department had conducted diplomatic missions. Clinton unveiled the Global Hunger and Food Security program, prevailed over Vice President Biden to send an additional 21,000 troops to Afghanistan, saved the signing of a Turkish-Armenian accord, and assisted the president with major decisions as to the U.S. position with regard to the revolution in Egypt and the decision to use military force in Libya.

was instrumental...co-introduced.....

Nothing truly measureable......typical Political BS!

Originally Posted by Guest

So, basically after cutting and pasting from her website or wikipedia, you still couldn't come up with any accomplishments? I have seen better resume's from newly graduated high school students. I would think one could embellish better than that.

No doubt everything on her campaign website or any and every other website that they can control has been written by her campaign manager .

His name is Robbie Mook . He is age 36 and a Vermont native who holds an undergrad degree from Columbia University . He is being paid huge bucks to get her elected .