The real unemployment is still not being addressed.
It is still being measured as it has been for the past 8 plus years.

It does not take into account all that are in fact unemployed.....which would include those who have given up.

The smoke and mirrors presentation of unemployment is just that.....a political feel good measure....has little to do with reality.

Originally Posted by Guest

If you are in favor or higher wages, the one thing that can drive up wages is a glut of available workers.

The unemployment rate is a phony number anyway. It only counts the number of people on the unemployment compensation rolls. It doesn't count people whose benefits have expired and have stopped looking for work. Nor does it count people who were laid of and took jobs for less money than they were making before.

The actual number of unemployed is much greater, (some sources say two or three times) than the "official" number.

But the good news is that the unemployment rate is calculated the same way for both Republican and Democrat administrations, and has been for decades. So, apples to apples............

Originally Posted by Guest

The real unemployment is still not being addressed.
It is still being measured as it has been for the past 8 plus years.

It does not take into account all that are in fact unemployed.....which would include those who have given up.

The smoke and mirrors presentation of unemployment is just that.....a political feel good measure....has little to do with reality.

It's been calculated the same way for decades, over both Republican and Democrat administrations. Has to be in order to compare apples to apples.

Originally Posted by Guest

And we can't produce any of those items here?

We can't produce Corona Beer. And the other things.......not for the same cost. And by the way, you know Mexico, and China, and any other country on which we slap a border tax is going to do the same thing to us.

Originally Posted by Guest

Not me, I don't drink watered down pi$$.

You must have misread. I wasn't talking about Miller Lite. And apparently Americans like Corona pretty well. It's the #5 top selling beer in the country.

The 20 Most Popular Beers Indicate That, Deep Down, Americans Are Frat Boys | The Huffington Post

Originally Posted by Guest

You must have misread. I wasn't talking about Miller Lite. And apparently Americans like Corona pretty well. It's the #5 top selling beer in the country.

The 20 Most Popular Beers Indicate That, Deep Down, Americans Are Frat Boys | The Huffington Post

Huffington? One of George Soro's many properties? Should have figured. A yuppie beer for women and girly boys.

Ooo, don't make Mexicans mad at us, or we may have to pay more for crap. Ooo, don't make the terrorists mad at us or they might attack us at home. OOo, don't make China mad at us or they might not loan us any more bail out money.

Well, we hold ALL the cards and it is about time that the rest of the world is made aware of that fact. If you can't afford the product, then you shouldn't be buying it. Time for liberals to realize that not everyone deserves to have what others have. If they don't work for it, or motivated enough to reach out for it, they don't deserve it. It is not in the Constitution that everyone gets a plush lifestyle. Americans too coddled and do not know what it is like to have nothing and have no food stamps and welfare available for them. They are spoiled and weak. Instead of taking three jobs to support their family, they leave their family. Instead of taking a low level job until they can do better, they demand that the gov give them a middle class lifestyle. My oh my, you won't be able to get your cheap @ss Mexican watered down pi$$ beer. Too bad. If you want to pay more for crap, then make more money. American beer is better anyway. If you want cheap, then take a trip to Mexico and enjoy their nasty culture along the border. Or, go to Mexico city and be kidnapped and taken to an ATM and robbed. Of course, you can always get the same environment by driving down to Miami. Just don't stop at the lights.

We pay for our National Security. Don't turn around and leave the door to your home open if you just had an alarm system installed.

Why should I worry about a low income person being able to afford an increased price of a Mexican beer or avocado? Live within your income and tell the gov to do the same thing.

Originally Posted by Guest

Full employment is 5.5% of the work force is unemployed? Does this sound like a conflict in terms? More ridiculous political speak.

Full employment is when every able bodied American that wants to work has a job that is commensurate with their skills and abilities. An engineer working as a greeter in Wal-Mart should not be counted as fully employed.

Once every American that wants to work and is able to work is working at a job at their skill and ability level, we can begin bringing in foreign workers to fill the jobs that are needed.

When there are too many workers and not enough jobs, wages will increase. This is basic supply and demand from Economic 101. Wages won't need to be raised by some phony government number. Everyone will be earning what they deserve.

Dear Guest:

Actually the more revealing number is the % of people participating in the job market vis a vis unemployed. Last I recall it was about 62% or so.

However, you are correct in pointing out that the quantitative amount be it 5.5% or 62% is only one measure. Experts also have to review the qualitative aspect and that relates to the under-employed either because they are part time or because their work skills are not being used. The unspoken tragedy is that many professionals and trade skilled workers are out of their market so long that they are never re-employable to these positions

personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

The only way to ever stop the problem, is to start prosecuting those who hire undocumented workers...and put them in jail!


So, I wonder which Morse family members will...'take one for the team?'

Originally Posted by Guest

Don't get so close to his crack and you won't need to wave the stink away.

Originally Posted by Guest

A man walks into a bar in The Villages.
"Bartender, I'll have a Corona," he says and flips a 5 dollar bill on the bar.
Bartender says, "The price has gone up from $5.00 to $6.00 to cover Trump's Mexican import tax."
Man puts another dollar on the bar and drinks his beer.

Remind me who's going to pay for that wall.

When, bought by the keg a beer costs about twenty five cents.
If, you bar is charging you $5.00 he might decide to eat the extra TARIFF cost. Or, you might decide to switch to a domestic brand.

I own a Chevy Malibu. While it is listed as a domestic car, what is more domestic than a Chevy? The car is only 60% made in the US. The transmission is made in Mexico.

We hear the threat of trade wars and we might see some.
I'm sure Mexico is exploring how they could retaliate. Stop selling us oil? Their shipping cost will go up dramatically. We would increase domestic production and perhaps buy more from Canada.

As TRUMP has clearly said he will negotiate deals that are GOOD FOR THE USA. If, you are worried about good for Mexico why do you live here?????

Originally Posted by Guest

Ooo, don't make Mexicans mad at us, or we may have to pay more for crap. Ooo, don't make the terrorists mad at us or they might attack us at home. OOo, don't make China mad at us or they might not loan us any more bail out money.

Well, we hold ALL the cards and it is about time that the rest of the world is made aware of that fact. If you can't afford the product, then you shouldn't be buying it. Time for liberals to realize that not everyone deserves to have what others have. If they don't work for it, or motivated enough to reach out for it, they don't deserve it. It is not in the Constitution that everyone gets a plush lifestyle. Americans too coddled and do not know what it is like to have nothing and have no food stamps and welfare available for them. They are spoiled and weak. Instead of taking three jobs to support their family, they leave their family. Instead of taking a low level job until they can do better, they demand that the gov give them a middle class lifestyle. My oh my, you won't be able to get your cheap @ss Mexican watered down pi$$ beer. Too bad. If you want to pay more for crap, then make more money. American beer is better anyway. If you want cheap, then take a trip to Mexico and enjoy their nasty culture along the border. Or, go to Mexico city and be kidnapped and taken to an ATM and robbed. Of course, you can always get the same environment by driving down to Miami. Just don't stop at the lights.

We pay for our National Security. Don't turn around and leave the door to your home open if you just had an alarm system installed.

Why should I worry about a low income person being able to afford an increased price of a Mexican beer or avocado? Live within your income and tell the gov to do the same thing.

Sorry....a bit curious..

On what premise should a sovereign country pay for a wall we want to build on US land ?

Why should they pay ?

Never understood that.

Originally Posted by Guest

Well oresented. Was thinking of this earlier.

I honestly wish our new President succes, but find it a bit wacky as he embraces Russia, wants to lift sanctions on them, while fighting with Mexico who has not even said a bad word about us.

And lastly, listening to his talk in Philly where he speaks of using American processed steel for the pipeline, I wondered how much that will increase the cost.

By the way, on Fox, while he spoke, the scroll across the bottom said that our unemployment is so low that it has reached the number where economists call it no unemployment.

Same scroll said statistics show that illegal immigration has descended each year for the last few and is now at an almost all time low, although I might dispute that without more research because just prior to the election, seems there was a surge.

Again, taxes, trade, health care etc all need work, but just ignoring the blather and looking at facts, I am wondering a lot, especially about debt. Great to hear Ryan, at least mention the debt.

But you nailed who will pay for that wall, which if you read the wording could be a big fence instead.

How Low Can the Unemployment Rate Go? - WSJ

"One key question for the U.S. labor market this year: How low can the unemployment rate actually go?"

In history, several times the US has found hidden labor.
In WWII we had Rossie the Riveter-at a time when far fewer women worked, compared to today and a woman who understood how a car works let a lone knew how to repair one was an eccentric, they had women making airplanes, ships, ammo, bombs etc. Today, with a disproportionate part of the population retired, they could find new labor by eliminating the oppressive penalty for earning good money while collecting social security. They could also adjust welfare benefits lower, forcing, if you prefer, encouraging people to get off the dole.

Originally Posted by Guest

Sorry....a bit curious..

On what premise should a sovereign country pay for a wall we want to build on US land ?

Why should they pay ?

Never understood that.

Of course Mexico does not WANT to pay for the wall.
You after tooooooo many progressive, LIBERAL years do not understand. Trump has said YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO PAY FOR THE WALL. kUMBAYAH-clearly does not work. ASIDE_do the campfire girls even still exist???

Of course, some people will be hurt on both sides. Our EXPENSE of medical care, education, crime will go down or at least not grow. We have been told that unemployment of black youths is over 50%. If, there were jobs, IF THEY WERE FORCED TO WORK by cuts of welfare and lack of accepting the crime, they would discover if not pride the necessity of working for what you need and working for what you want.

Originally Posted by Guest

Of course Mexico does not WANT to pay for the wall.
You after tooooooo many progressive, LIBERAL years do not understand. Trump has said YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO PAY FOR THE WALL. kUMBAYAH-clearly does not work. ASIDE_do the campfire girls even still exist???

Of course, some people will be hurt on both sides. Our EXPENSE of medical care, education, crime will go down or at least not grow. We have been told that unemployment of black youths is over 50%. If, there were jobs, IF THEY WERE FORCED TO WORK by cuts of welfare and lack of accepting the crime, they would discover if not pride the necessity of working for what you need and working for what you want.

My question is...

ON WHAT AUTHORITY CAN OUR PRESIDENT DEMAND A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY PAY FOR ANYTHING BUILT ON US LAND ?