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Guest 08-05-2012 01:59 PM

nj,the unknowing general public lives next door to you and probably includes you as far as knowing the tax code. I said it earlier I will say it again if the American public sees how the tax code really works for the very wealthy the voting backlash will be significant. those of you who say it will be disected,bisected and put under the microscope are correct and I believe the American public will be amazed and shocked and disgusted.Again,I do not think Romney did anything wrong,he just took advantage of a unequal tax system.

Guest 08-05-2012 02:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534479)
nj,the unknowing general public lives next door to you and probably includes you as far as knowing the tax code. I said it earlier I will say it again if the American public sees how the tax code really works for the very wealthy the voting backlash will be significant. those of you who say it will be disected,bisected and put under the microscope are correct and I believe the American public will be amazed and shocked and disgusted.Again,I do not think Romney did anything wrong,he just took advantage of a unequal tax system.


AND I agree with you ! He, and others have repeatedly asked for revisions to the tax code.

Guest 08-05-2012 02:17 PM

RNC chairman, Reince Preibus called Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) a "dirty liar" on ABC's This Week today. Apparently this makes Reid 'Dirty Harry'. If only there were some way to clear this up once and for all, so we could get on with the problems this country is facing.


Reince Priebus: Harry Reid Is A 'Dirty Liar' (VIDEO)

Guest 08-05-2012 02:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534488)
RNC chairman, Reince Preibus called Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) a "dirty liar" on ABC's This Week today. Apparently this makes Reid 'Dirty Harry'. If only there were some way to clear this up once and for all, so we could get on with the problems this country is facing.


Reince Priebus: Harry Reid Is A 'Dirty Liar' (VIDEO)

That would appear to be entirely up to the Obama campaign as Romney has met his legal requirements and a smidgen more and is not going to go any further and since all the uproar is from that campaign, it would appear to be up to him when we can discuss the many problems we have !

Guest 08-05-2012 02:28 PM

Willard better have a good answer as to why he refuses to release the same number of returns that previous POTUS candidates have released. You can bet this will be issue 1 in the first debate.

Willard "meeting the legal requirement" is not good enough.

Guest 08-05-2012 02:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534488)
RNC chairman, Reince Preibus called Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) a "dirty liar" on ABC's This Week today. Apparently this makes Reid 'Dirty Harry'. If only there were some way to clear this up once and for all, so we could get on with the problems this country is facing.


Reince Priebus: Harry Reid Is A 'Dirty Liar' (VIDEO)

Oooooh....a 'dirty liar' must be so much worse than just a liar. He has such a way with words. :ohdear:

Guest 08-05-2012 02:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534491)
That would appear to be entirely up to the Obama campaign as Romney has met his legal requirements and a smidgen more and is not going to go any further and since all the uproar is from that campaign, it would appear to be up to him when we can discuss the many problems we have !

Don't forget, the rich are raping this country and their high paid lawyers are keeping it in the legal column that they themselves bought into law.

Guest 08-05-2012 04:41 PM

Mitt Romney raised such a stink when his opponent Shannon O'Brien's husband would not release his tax return. That's correct, her husband. Mrs O'Brien released her tax return, which Romney never did, during their 2002 gubernatorial contest, but Romney was outraged that O'Brien's husband would not release his. Romney was also outraged when Teddy Kennedy would not release his tax returns in 1994, when they opposed each other for senate.

Romney has no argument to make about releasing tax returns when these old videotapes are played of him whining on and on about other people's tax returns.

During the 2002 democratic gubernatorial primary in MA, all the democratic candidates released tax returns. Romney refused. This is what makes him such a hypocrite on the issue. What's sauce for the goose isn't necessarily sauce for the gander.

Guest 08-05-2012 05:38 PM

he does have one really good excuse....he has fulfilled all the obligations placed on him legally as a candidate.

And we all know the tax mania is nothing more than the political distraction that it is.

Are you ready and willing to turn your returns over to a pack of vultures whose ONLY goal is to make you look bad some how. Would you allow that to happen to you?

This question has not ever been answered when ever I ask it. I don't expect an answer from those who support the no matter what philosophy.

When you have nothing invested it is oh so easy to throw stones.

btk

Guest 08-05-2012 06:00 PM

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Guest 08-05-2012 06:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534638)
he does have one really good excuse....he has fulfilled all the obligations placed on him legally as a candidate.

And we all know the tax mania is nothing more than the political distraction that it is.

Are you ready and willing to turn your returns over to a pack of vultures whose ONLY goal is to make you look bad some how. Would you allow that to happen to you?

This question has not ever been answered when ever I ask it. I don't expect an answer from those who support the no matter what philosophy.

When you have nothing invested it is oh so easy to throw stones.

btk

This turning over your returns to a pack of vultures wasn't an issue for President Obama, the Clintons, the Bushes, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, or Richard Nixon. Do you want me to list the hundreds of top cabinet officials and vice presidential candidates that it wasn't an issue? BTW I'm not running for president.

Guest 08-05-2012 06:06 PM

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You are confused as are most of the far right wing. The people, yes us working stiffs, just want to know what the Man is hiding. We don't think he is guilty of crimes or guilty of being rich. Just show me.

Guest 08-05-2012 06:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534510)
Don't forget, the rich are raping this country and their high paid lawyers are keeping it in the legal column that they themselves bought into law.

Oh, please. Obama and the Senate Democrats ARE "high-paid lawyers" who ARE "the rich", and they have not passed a federal budget in four years!!!!!!

Top 10 Wealthiest Senators

John Kerry, D-Mass.
Average net worth: $238,812,296

Mark Warner, D-Va.
Average net worth: $174,385,102

Herb Kohl, D-Wis.
Average net worth: $160,302,011

James E. Risch, R-Idaho
Average net worth: $109,034,052

Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.
Average net worth: $98,832,010

Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn.
Average net worth: $94,870,116

Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
Average net worth: $77,082,134

Frank R. Lautenberg, D-N.J.
Average net worth: $76,886,611

Bob Corker, R-Tenn.
Average net worth: $50,717,522

John Kerry, D-Mass.*Pictures - CBS News

Guest 08-05-2012 06:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 532859)
The most interesting aspect of the election frightened left on the issue of Romney's taxes is the actions of U.S. Senate leader Harry Reid.

Harry has been saying that someone from Bane Capital has been divulging information about Romney's taxes to him. THAT IS A FEDERAL CRIME AND A FELONY.

The IRS and the FBI should be investigating these allegations to find this person and determine the truth of what Harry is saying. If Harry lies at all, that also is a federal crime. Can you say Scooter Libby or Martha Stewart?

These are serious concerns and the IRS should be on top of this.

We all know that's not gonna happen, though.

RICHIE....I am in Tampa right now....I think I told you on here once before that we have a condo here also (at least for a few more months), Anyway, Tampa is a very liberal city......I talk to lots and lots of folks who are just plain sick and tired of all of this Bain, and the tax situation and I cannot use the words they use to describe Reid.

I really think these last few months, while many Dems seem to be having fun taking shots are going to backfire BIG TIME !!! I have spoken to Dems here who are actually active in the party and they are saying they might just take this election "off"....just not vote....they are not going to support Romney of course but they have about had it with this Obama machine !

Guest 08-05-2012 06:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534664)
Oh, please. Obama and the Senate Democrats ARE "high-paid lawyers" who ARE "the rich", and they have not passed a federal budget in four years!!!!!!

Top 10 Wealthiest Senators

John Kerry, D-Mass.
Average net worth: $238,812,296

Mark Warner, D-Va.
Average net worth: $174,385,102

Herb Kohl, D-Wis.
Average net worth: $160,302,011

James E. Risch, R-Idaho
Average net worth: $109,034,052

Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.
Average net worth: $98,832,010

Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn.
Average net worth: $94,870,116

Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
Average net worth: $77,082,134

Frank R. Lautenberg, D-N.J.
Average net worth: $76,886,611

Bob Corker, R-Tenn.
Average net worth: $50,717,522

John Kerry, D-Mass.*Pictures - CBS News

Yeah, that continuing thing on rich versus poor thing does not translate very well when you look at this stuff......the Dems are shooting themselves in the foot I do believe !

Guest 08-05-2012 06:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534663)
You are confused as are most of the far right wing. The people, yes us working stiffs, just want to know what the Man is hiding. We don't think he is guilty of crimes or guilty of being rich. Just show me.

You have no right to see it. THE LAW, and this country still is of laws and not men, says he has done a bit more than required. If you do not want to discuss issues and make this one, the american voter will see through that !

Guest 08-05-2012 06:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534667)
RICHIE....I am in Tampa right now....I think I told you on here once before that we have a condo here also (at least for a few more months), Anyway, Tampa is a very liberal city......I talk to lots and lots of folks who are just plain sick and tired of all of this Bain, and the tax situation and I cannot use the words they use to describe Reid.

I really think these last few months, while many Dems seem to be having fun taking shots are going to backfire BIG TIME !!! I have spoken to Dems here who are actually active in the party and they are saying they might just take this election "off"....just not vote....they are not going to support Romney of course but they have about had it with this Obama machine !

I'm glad to hear this report from you. My instincts have been telling me that even Dems can't be buying all this crap they're being fed, for they know Obama and Reid are flushing this country either by accident, or maybe even on purpose.

I think the Dems are going to find far too many of their usual voters staying home on Nov. 6th. Obama knows it too and that's why they're trying to whip up support among groups like the gays and the Latino's and abortion advocates by using the scare politics we've seen of late.

This is why I discount the polls. They're polling people who are ultimately going to sit on their vote.

On the other hand, the Republican voter is more staunch than they have been in years.

Guest 08-05-2012 06:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534676)
I'm glad to hear this report from you. My instincts have been telling me that even Dems can't be buying all this crap they're being fed, for they know Obama and Reid are flushing this country either by accident, or maybe even on purpose.

I think the Dems are going to find far too many of their usual voters staying home on Nov. 7th. Obama knows it too and that's why they're trying to whip up support among groups like the gays and the Latino's and abortion advocates by using the scare politics we've seen of late.

This is why I discount the polls. They're polling people who are ultimately going to sit on their vote.

On the other hand, the Republican voter is more staunch than they have been in years.

You are correct about Democrats staying home on Nov 7th after a big night of celebrating on election day Nov 6th, but you keep telling yourself to vote on Nov 7th.

Guest 08-05-2012 06:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534682)
You are correct about Democrats staying home on Nov 7th after a big night of celebrating on election day Nov 6th, but you keep telling yourself to vote on Nov 7th.

OK, I got the date mixed in my head, but at least you cannot refute my post. I'll go back and fix it now wiseguy.

Guest 08-05-2012 06:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534683)
OK, I got the date mixed in my head, but at least you cannot refute my post. I'll go back and fix it now wiseguy.

THat post is what the Democrats are all about now....make a big deal of the nothing stuff and ridicule ...just make sure you do not talk about our actual problems, make accusations of any kind no matter what...reducing the political climate to the lowest possible denominater

That poster knew quite well what you meant but a great rep of the party the Democrats have become.

Guest 08-05-2012 07:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534660)
This turning over your returns to a pack of vultures wasn't an issue for President Obama, the Clintons, the Bushes, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, or Richard Nixon. Do you want me to list the hundreds of top cabinet officials and vice presidential candidates that it wasn't an issue? BTW I'm not running for president.

and it is NOT an issue for romney - he is NOT turning over any more than is required - that's it - it's over - no issue!

Guest 08-05-2012 07:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534479)
nj,the unknowing general public lives next door to you and probably includes you as far as knowing the tax code. I said it earlier I will say it again if the American public sees how the tax code really works for the very wealthy the voting backlash will be significant. those of you who say it will be disected,bisected and put under the microscope are correct and I believe the American public will be amazed and shocked and disgusted.Again,I do not think Romney did anything wrong,he just took advantage of a unequal tax system.

i don't have to know the tax code - nor does anyone - to know it is stacked against anyone less than rich - or to know that there are abuses of it; i know the abuses that are also exercised by the poor! i am not be amazed by them. i worked in govt long enough to know that there are enough loopholes in laws that they could be used to strain macaroni! i even know that laws are written specifically to INCLUDE loopholes!

and as long as the majority of the current cast of characters in congress continue to return to their desks there - nothing will change - they, like romney, gates, buffett are taking advantage of it! maybe the tea party could add tax reform to their platform - if it has not already - am not familiar with it.

Guest 08-05-2012 07:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534494)
Willard better have a good answer as to why he refuses to release the same number of returns that previous POTUS candidates have released. You can bet this will be issue 1 in the first debate.

Willard "meeting the legal requirement" is not good enough.

how about 'because he doesn't have to' sorta like when ya tell the nagging kids 'because i'm the mother and i said so'!

Guest 08-05-2012 08:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534663)
You are confused as are most of the far right wing. The people, yes us working stiffs, just want to know what the Man is hiding. We don't think he is guilty of crimes or guilty of being rich. Just show me.

when my mother told me to show her what i was hiding - she sure didn't think i had done something right! she was sure i had done something wrong! what do you think your mother thought when she asked you what you were hiding?

so i am not too sure that the assessment of working stiffs wanting to see mitt's tax returns is because they do not believe he is not guilty of something more than just being rich.

Guest 08-05-2012 08:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534749)
how about 'because he doesn't have to' sorta like when ya tell the nagging kids 'because i'm the mother and i said so'!







Yeah, that'll play well with the voters ........

Excellent response ..............

Guest 08-05-2012 08:21 PM

please feel free to list all those currently in the congress who have yet to submit to the IRS information that has been requested of them.

Thanx for the humor attempt by stating you are not running for POTUS.....now how about answering the question?

btk

Guest 08-05-2012 08:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534757)
Yeah, that'll play well with the voters ........

Excellent response ..............

at least voters are more likely to understand that than they are mitt's tax returns!

Guest 08-05-2012 09:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534766)
at least voters are more likely to understand that than they are mitt's tax returns!

They will certainly understand if he paid no taxes for 10 years as it is alleged. That will not set well with the 99%. :icon_wink:

Guest 08-05-2012 09:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534783)
They will certainly understand if he paid no taxes for 10 years as it is alleged. That will not set well with the 99%. :icon_wink:

well, they shouldn't be upset...if mitt paid no taxes for 10 years - how would he be any different from the 46% of american households that pay no taxes? are they part of that 99%? those 99%ers must be really bad at math! ;)

Guest 08-05-2012 09:28 PM

The country is going down "in flames" with Obama at the helm and the country's going to be focused on Romney's tax returns?

Liberals are buffoons.

Guest 08-05-2012 10:07 PM

The rich are raping our country? When was the last time a poor person offered you a job?

Far too many including most liberals believe what you earn no matter the amount belongs to the government first and you get to keep what others decide.

The ignorant seem to hate the rich but love the true rapists... the government.

Guest 08-06-2012 07:38 AM

This is part of an article in the Boston Herald which in general lets us in on some of Harry Reids little games and also asks Romney to stand up and let em have it (which I espouse) but this small para gives you an idea of what our President is all about when it comes to politics...this was issued as a warning to Romney about this group...

"Refresh yourself about Barack’s Senate election in Illinois and the suddenly released divorce records of both his Democrat and Republican foes. Recall the 2008 presidential campaign, and the abject lies Obama’s media rumpswabs knowingly peddled. Remember The New York Times [NYT]’ stories about John McCain’s mistress who wasn’t, or Todd Palin’s membership in the Alaska National Party, which likewise was totally false. How many ****-poor columns has Gail Collins written about Seamus the dog on the roof, but Barack Obama actually eating dogs ... crickets please.

Mitt, can’t you find some Republican as sleazy as Harry Reid to start making charges about Barry Soetoro. I mean, you’re running against the capo of the Choom Gang, a guy with multiple names, multiple birthplaces, somebody who gave up his law license for never-explained reasons, a guy with a Social Security number from a state he never lived in.

And you turn the other cheek? You should have given Rich Gorka a raise for ripping into those Barack bumkissers in Poland. Instead, you benched him"


No more Mittster nice guy! - BostonHerald.com

I dont know when he is going to take off the gloves with these guys who think nothing of personal attacks, but when he does I surely hope that he does not hold back any longer. It is one thing to try to stay with the issues but this is getting a bit out of hand.

Guest 08-06-2012 07:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534794)
The country is going down "in flames" with Obama at the helm and the country's going to be focused on Romney's tax returns?

Liberals are buffoons.

And you accuse liberal of being name-callers??? :yuck:

Guest 08-06-2012 07:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534896)
And you accuse liberal of being name-callers??? :yuck:

Here is the net definition of "buffoonery"


Behavior that is ridiculous but amusing.

You take it from there !!!

Guest 08-06-2012 07:49 AM

You don't understand Richie, they don't care if we're going down in flames... as long as Obama get reelected and the government keeps growing in size and power. That's their only motivation.

In fact, many of them want the USA to go down in flames. In their minds we deserve it. Obama is just one of the tools to get us there.

Guest 08-06-2012 07:50 AM

From the direction that the situation is going on nationwide with the general population feeling Romney is hiding something BIG when he refuses to release his tax returns - Who are the Republicans going to nominate at their convention in place of Romney? Everyone knows that President Obama would wipe the floor with the likes of Santorum and Newtie Boy.

Looks like a bad season for the Republicans. I understand the Republican Party is on Romney like fleas on his dog to release the tax returns.

Guest 08-06-2012 07:56 AM

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Looks like a bad season for the Republicans.
Just like the mid-term elections I guess. How soon we forget the pounding democrats took. It will be worse for them this Nov and they know it.

Guest 08-06-2012 08:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 534910)
Just like the mid-term elections I guess. How soon we forget the pounding democrats took. It will be worse for them this Nov. And they know it.





Actually, more like 2008 - mid year elections ALWAYS have a much smaller turnout. But, I suspecet you know that.

With Obama at the top of the ticket in 2012 there will be a massive turnout - perhaps exceeding the 64% turnout of 2008.

And that is BAD news for Willard.

Guest 08-06-2012 08:13 AM

LOL, you keep telling yourself that. We'll see.

Guest 08-06-2012 09:24 AM

when it is stated Romney's tax situation will "not sit well with the 99%"

demonstrates that rhetoric and political intent over ride common sense.

Did some forget that 50% do not pay any taxes at all.....do you think they care about this fly spec in the pepper issue?

btk


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