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Guest 08-01-2015 05:30 PM

Idiots of the world united join the Republican wing nut crowd in the Villages. The Villages is the gathering place for Republicans that absolutely think they can do no wrong despite all evidence to the contrary. You will be required to check your brain in at the door. Don't worry! Brains here are not required, and are frowned upon. Name calling is an asset that keeps on giving.

Guest 08-01-2015 05:31 PM

"Pretend that President Obama going to a prison and kibitzing with prisoners is a good use of his time and good imagery. (But if he were to visit a police department to deliver a morale boost, it would rile Democrats everywhere.)"

At the prison, Obama was protected from the prisoners by bars. At the police station, COPs have guns, and you how he feels about guns. Not saying he would be in danger, but maybe someone would recognize him from an old wanted poster from his college drug dazed days. :laugh::icon_wink:

Guest 08-01-2015 06:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094434)
Idiots of the world united join the Republican wing nut crowd in the Villages. The Villages is the gathering place for Republicans that absolutely think they can do no wrong despite all evidence to the contrary. You will be required to check your brain in at the door. Don't worry! Brains here are not required, and are frowned upon. Name calling is an asset that keeps on giving.

Gee....just re read most of the posts and did not see any "name calling". I DID however see op eds from both liberal and conservative writers on this subject of Hillary.

I did see someone bragging on Hillary filing taxes, being healthy, and releasing a few emails, which is basically all the positives.

I have no idea if she is guilty of all the various accusations (by the way have you seen her top assistant is now being investigated by the feds for money things).

What I know is this...NEVER EVER saw any candidate just entering the primary season with so many possible "indictments" or investigations hanging over their head.

The Democratic party would be better served with another candidate but you and I both know that is not going to happen.

Look, if the folks in the Villages are wing nuts then the entire media world is also in that category. She gobbles up the press for all the things around her and not about what she is trying to pass off as she stands for,

If the comments on here are part of that "right wing conspiracy" that she is always talking about, then she better look at normal and usual supporters of the Democratic party, like the NY Times and such because they are the ones who are reporting and it is reflected here. So, cast your aspersions and call names of people in a much wider....MUCH WIDER AREA than the Villages.

Guest 08-01-2015 06:03 PM

BY THE WAY....ON this very forum, here in the "right wing nut job" area, there was much made about the money made by Mitt Romney....I refer to some pretty mean comments on his income and I checked today.....the Clintons maybe fell a bit short but not by much and now are exceeding him.

I suppose that income that mattered so much in 2012 does not mean as much now.

Guest 08-01-2015 06:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094444)
Gee....just re read most of the posts and did not see any "name calling". I DID however see op eds from both liberal and conservative writers on this subject of Hillary.

I did see someone bragging on Hillary filing taxes, being healthy, and releasing a few emails, which is basically all the positives.

I have no idea if she is guilty of all the various accusations (by the way have you seen her top assistant is now being investigated by the feds for money things).

What I know is this...NEVER EVER saw any candidate just entering the primary season with so many possible "indictments" or investigations hanging over their head.

The Democratic party would be better served with another candidate but you and I both know that is not going to happen.

Look, if the folks in the Villages are wing nuts then the entire media world is also in that category. She gobbles up the press for all the things around her and not about what she is trying to pass off as she stands for,

If the comments on here are part of that "right wing conspiracy" that she is always talking about, then she better look at normal and usual supporters of the Democratic party, like the NY Times and such because they are the ones who are reporting and it is reflected here. So, cast your aspersions and call names of people in a much wider....MUCH WIDER AREA than the Villages.

Aw, he's probably just jealous that he can't live here. If we are "wing nuts" at least we are happy "wing nuts." He doesn't seem to be very happy.

Guest 08-01-2015 06:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094446)
BY THE WAY....ON this very forum, here in the "right wing nut job" area, there was much made about the money made by Mitt Romney....I refer to some pretty mean comments on his income and I checked today.....the Clintons maybe fell a bit short but not by much and now are exceeding him.

I suppose that income that mattered so much in 2012 does not mean as much now.

Naw, the Clintons are dirt poor. Remember when Billy boy was interviewed and asked if he was going to stop taking those high paying speaking jobs and he said, "heck no, we gotta pay our bills." Billary told everyone that they were dirt poor, poverty level when they left the White House. .Probably why they stole the silverware and china on the way out the door. Hey folks, the bad guy is the good guy, only on TV fantasy. In real life the bad guy is the bad guy, not an actor.

By the way, did the Clintons ever get that 25 million dollars that they forgot to declare resolved yet? We all know how easy it is to lose 25 million don't we? Kind of like forgetting that she was taking home classified information. But, Queen Hillary promises us that all this is just GOP conspiracy.

Guest 08-01-2015 06:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094454)
Naw, the Clintons are dirt poor. Remember when Billy boy was interviewed and asked if he was going to stop taking those high paying speaking jobs and he said, "heck no, we gotta pay our bills." Billary told everyone that they were dirt poor, poverty level when they left the White House. .Probably why they stole the silverware and china on the way out the door. Hey folks, the bad guy is the good guy, only on TV fantasy. In real life the bad guy is the bad guy, not an actor.

By the way, did the Clintons ever get that 25 million dollars that they forgot to declare resolved yet? We all know how easy it is to lose 25 million don't we? Kind of like forgetting that she was taking home classified information. But, Queen Hillary promises us that all this is just GOP conspiracy.

YOU are obviously a member of a right wing conspiracy and just another right wing nut job.

I do understand why folks say that stuff. If you didn't know it was true, you would look at all the things hanging over this woman's head and say that it was impossible, and that it had to be made up.

Nobody asked the right wing nut jobs in the Villages for any links or backup on this stuff. IT IS the news !!

But we are still racist in addition to nut jobs. Our close association with Planned Parenthood and our glee in aborting black babies makes us so. And the posts from that JOHN from TOPIX who reports on posters here was not racist, simply misunderstood.

Guest 08-01-2015 06:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094454)
Naw, the Clintons are dirt poor. Remember when Billy boy was interviewed and asked if he was going to stop taking those high paying speaking jobs and he said, "heck no, we gotta pay our bills." Billary told everyone that they were dirt poor, poverty level when they left the White House. .Probably why they stole the silverware and china on the way out the door. Hey folks, the bad guy is the good guy, only on TV fantasy. In real life the bad guy is the bad guy, not an actor.

By the way, did the Clintons ever get that 25 million dollars that they forgot to declare resolved yet? We all know how easy it is to lose 25 million don't we? Kind of like forgetting that she was taking home classified information. But, Queen Hillary promises us that all this is just GOP conspiracy.

This 25 million ???

"The Clinton Foundation reported Thursday that it has received as much as $26.4 million in previously undisclosed payments from major corporations, universities, foreign sources and other groups.

The disclosure came as the foundation faced questions over whether it fully complied with a 2008 ethics agreement to reveal its donors and whether any of its funding sources present conflicts of interest for Hillary Rodham Clinton as she begins her presidential campaign."


Clinton Foundation reveals up to $26 million in additional payments - The Washington Post

Guest 08-01-2015 07:48 PM

I told you to control the fools, but you didn't. The second, that I respond in kind, you joined the fools. Now, you are going to get a full dose our your own medicine. I am not mad. I am going to start having what people around here consider fun.

Guest 08-01-2015 07:57 PM

Boy, did I make a mistake! The right wing nuts actually like being called wing nuts. It is a sense of pride. It show that someone actually is paying attention to them. Pulling down their pants in public and showing their fully aroused one inch dick didn't work. Being told what they actually are works like a charm. Now, they are happy beyond their wildest imaginations. There is a God in heaven.

Guest 08-01-2015 08:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094497)
Boy, did I make a mistake! The right wing nuts actually like being called wing nuts. It is a sense of pride. It show that someone actually is paying attention to them. Pulling down their pants in public and showing their fully aroused one inch dick didn't work. Being told what they actually are works like a charm. Now, they are happy beyond their wildest imaginations. There is a God in heaven.

This poster must be cut off period.

Nobody posts like this on TOTV.

Hoping using means this person is identified and thrown, and really hope this person does not live in The Villages.

Guest 08-01-2015 08:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094497)
Boy, did I make a mistake! The right wing nuts actually like being called wing nuts. It is a sense of pride. It show that someone actually is paying attention to them. Pulling down their pants in public and showing their fully aroused one inch dick didn't work. Being told what they actually are works like a charm. Now, they are happy beyond their wildest imaginations. There is a God in heaven.

This sure points out the liberal way on here. True colors.

Conservatives can get aggressive, but this is typical of the liberal postings.

Guest 08-01-2015 08:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094497)
Boy, did I make a mistake! The right wing nuts actually like being called wing nuts. It is a sense of pride. It show that someone actually is paying attention to them. Pulling down their pants in public and showing their fully aroused one inch dick didn't work. Being told what they actually are works like a charm. Now, they are happy beyond their wildest imaginations. There is a God in heaven.

Get this degenerate's IP and boot him.

Guest 08-01-2015 08:56 PM

What you don't like it, when your tactics are used against you? By all means, have the administrator email me. I will sit down in person with the administrator, and go over from day 1 all my posts, and the responses I received to them. If they are honest, which we know they are, more than a few Republican posters here will have to explain their behavior.

Guest 08-01-2015 09:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094497)
Boy, did I make a mistake! The right wing nuts actually like being called wing nuts. It is a sense of pride. It show that someone actually is paying attention to them. Pulling down their pants in public and showing their fully aroused one inch dick didn't work. Being told what they actually are works like a charm. Now, they are happy beyond their wildest imaginations. There is a God in heaven.

This person needs to be banned from TOTV. Please ADMIN - do so and make a point that obscene exchanges such as this will not be tolerated.

Guest 08-01-2015 09:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094518)
What you don't like it, when your tactics are used against you? By all means, have the administrator email me. I will sit down in person with the administrator, and go over from day 1 all my posts, and the responses I received to them. If they are honest, which we know they are, more than a few Republican posters here will have to explain their behavior.

If you are the poster who posted the obscenity, then you are out of line saying that others use those tactics. I have never seen anything like that on this forum or anywhere on TOTV. I hope the ADMIN decides to keep this forum classy and bans this sort of behavior - PERIOD!

Guest 08-01-2015 10:35 PM

You haven't walked a foot in my shoes. If you haven't seen the behavior that has been directed at me, you haven't been looking. How do I contact the administers on Talk of the Villages? I've looked , but I can't find their email address. I will be more than happy to sit down with them, and go over every post that I have made in this thread, as well as other threads. Let them be the judge of who is calling who what.

Have I engaged in name calling! You are damn right I have. They are posts 81, 89, 90, and 94. I have also made note of all my other posts on this thread, and what responses I received. Do you really want to see, who is being honest, and who isn't?

Guest 08-01-2015 11:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094531)
This person needs to be banned from TOTV. Please ADMIN - do so and make a point that obscene exchanges such as this will not be tolerated.

I 100% agree. Admin we all opted in know what we were letting ourselves in for and accepted and tolerate some posts we wish were not here....but we know how to handle most of the aggravation.

This the poster is testing to see just how far he/she can go and still get away with it.

We did not opt in the have pornographic insults added to the sometimes word abuse that we can tolerate.

I suggest you show this person there is a limit and they have definitely crossed the line.

I for one will not remain on the political forum if this is not put to a stop.
Please advise us.

Guest 08-01-2015 11:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094497)
Boy, did I make a mistake! The right wing nuts actually like being called wing nuts. It is a sense of pride. It show that someone actually is paying attention to them. Pulling down their pants in public and showing their fully aroused one inch dick didn't work. Being told what they actually are works like a charm. Now, they are happy beyond their wildest imaginations. There is a God in heaven.

Admin....my post above is about this one #90.

I would like to know what will done about this crossing of the line of decency in a public forum.

Guest 08-02-2015 06:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094497)
Boy, did I make a mistake! The right wing nuts actually like being called wing nuts. It is a sense of pride. It show that someone actually is paying attention to them. Pulling down their pants in public and showing their fully aroused one inch dick didn't work. Being told what they actually are works like a charm. Now, they are happy beyond their wildest imaginations. There is a God in heaven.

The graphic language in this post is unacceptable on any level on a forum such as this.

Perhaps this is ok on that other board where people go to use obscenities or in a barroom, but no matter your political leanings, the use of this kind of language cannot be tolerated.

Disagreeing with vigor is one thing.....the use of obscene imagery and this kind of language cannot be tolerated.

Guest 08-02-2015 08:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094543)
You haven't walked a foot in my shoes. If you haven't seen the behavior that has been directed at me, you haven't been looking. How do I contact the administers on Talk of the Villages? I've looked , but I can't find their email address. I will be more than happy to sit down with them, and go over every post that I have made in this thread, as well as other threads. Let them be the judge of who is calling who what.

Have I engaged in name calling! You are damn right I have. They are posts 81, 89, 90, and 94. I have also made note of all my other posts on this thread, and what responses I received. Do you really want to see, who is being honest, and who isn't?

:cryin2::cryin2::cryin2::rant-rave::rant-rave::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

Guest 08-02-2015 08:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094518)
What you don't like it, when your tactics are used against you? By all means, have the administrator email me. I will sit down in person with the administrator, and go over from day 1 all my posts, and the responses I received to them. If they are honest, which we know they are, more than a few Republican posters here will have to explain their behavior.

Admin does not need to "email" you or "sit down" with you. Admin has the right to boot anyone they wish, for any reason they wish. Taking a couple of angry hits is one thing, but to be downright disgusting is not conducive to TV. You have embarrassed yourself. You should slink away quietly.

Guest 08-02-2015 08:36 AM

We can all agree that one liberal poster went way over the line with his crude comment. However, let's get back on topic.

I am anxious to see the top 10 candidates "debate" on Thursday. With so many candidates, it will be almost impossible to get real feel of what they stand for. If the time is equally divided, they will only get about 7 minutes of talk time. How will the moderator cut one off (Trump) when he will just over talk the others?

Pundits will be working overtime for a few weeks afterward to try and find a gaffe one might make. Depending on the candidate, it will be blown out of proportion. It might just be a stammer on a word but still will be blown out of proportion.

Anyhow, looking forward to the spirited exchange that will be upcoming both on the debate and, afterward, here on the forum. Go Rubio!

Guest 08-02-2015 08:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094641)
We can all agree that one liberal poster went way over the line with his crude comment. However, let's get back on topic.

I am anxious to see the top 10 candidates "debate" on Thursday. With so many candidates, it will be almost impossible to get real feel of what they stand for. If the time is equally divided, they will only get about 7 minutes of talk time. How will the moderator cut one off (Trump) when he will just over talk the others?

Pundits will be working overtime for a few weeks afterward to try and find a gaffe one might make. Depending on the candidate, it will be blown out of proportion. It might just be a stammer on a word but still will be blown out of proportion.

Anyhow, looking forward to the spirited exchange that will be upcoming both on the debate and, afterward, here on the forum. Go Rubio!

Even though getting back on topic is not about the upcoming debate, I think that a lot of viewers will be tuning in to watch the Donald Trump Show.

Guest 08-02-2015 09:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094641)
We can all agree that one liberal poster went way over the line with his crude comment. However, let's get back on topic.

I am anxious to see the top 10 candidates "debate" on Thursday. With so many candidates, it will be almost impossible to get real feel of what they stand for. If the time is equally divided, they will only get about 7 minutes of talk time. How will the moderator cut one off (Trump) when he will just over talk the others?

Pundits will be working overtime for a few weeks afterward to try and find a gaffe one might make. Depending on the candidate, it will be blown out of proportion. It might just be a stammer on a word but still will be blown out of proportion.

Anyhow, looking forward to the spirited exchange that will be upcoming both on the debate and, afterward, here on the forum. Go Rubio!


I agree AND disagree with your post.

That poster, whether liberal, conservative or whatever he is needs to be traced and booted off this forum. He completely overstepped any boundary and needs to be gone. I DO NOt think it should be forgotten and that we continue on as if we were not,whatever party or political side, insulted by this poster.

On the agreeable side,I also look forward to the debates. We have not reached a point where anything of substance will be said, and I fear they will all over stretch to get attention, but will be watching.

On the othe

Guest 08-02-2015 09:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094650)
Even though getting back on topic is not about the upcoming debate, I think that a lot of viewers will be tuning in to watch the Donald Trump Show.

First, the debate will be interesting but certainly without substance for sure.

But back on topic,......

"She has received her worst favorability rating ever. She has lost ground on Republicans' three strongest candidates. And she is perceived to be about as honest and trustworthy as Donald Trump."

Those are some of the troubling numbers for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a new poll released Thursday by
Quinnipiac University.



Read more: Hillary Clinton poll: Bad general election news - Business Insider

And of course.....

"Hillary Clinton’s recent speech in which she decried “quarterly capitalism” has predictably generated a great deal of commentary. With good reason.

Not only is “quarterly capitalism” a myth of the highest order, Clinton’s solution to what is not a problem would bring great harm to the economy. Missed by Clinton is the basic economic truism learned the hard way by European countries that you can’t hire people easily if you can’t easily fire them. As readers will soon see, the hiring analogy is apt."


Memo To Hillary Clinton: You Can't Hire People If You Can't Fire Them - Forbes

Guest 08-02-2015 09:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094657)
First, the debate will be interesting but certainly without substance for sure.

But back on topic,......

"She has received her worst favorability rating ever. She has lost ground on Republicans' three strongest candidates. And she is perceived to be about as honest and trustworthy as Donald Trump."

Those are some of the troubling numbers for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a new poll released Thursday by
Quinnipiac University.



Read more: Hillary Clinton poll: Bad general election news - Business Insider

And of course.....

"Hillary Clinton’s recent speech in which she decried “quarterly capitalism” has predictably generated a great deal of commentary. With good reason.

Not only is “quarterly capitalism” a myth of the highest order, Clinton’s solution to what is not a problem would bring great harm to the economy. Missed by Clinton is the basic economic truism learned the hard way by European countries that you can’t hire people easily if you can’t easily fire them. As readers will soon see, the hiring analogy is apt."


Memo To Hillary Clinton: You Can't Hire People If You Can't Fire Them - Forbes

Good post :thumbup::thumbup:

Guest 08-02-2015 09:36 AM

I believe that it is premature to count the polls regarding the general election, especially before any debates. Once we have debates, then the point spread will be greater, separating the GOP contenders. By that time, I am pretty sure that Clinton's popularity will have fallen substantially. Biden's poll numbers are already competitive with Clinton's so we don't yet know where this is going. Hilary seems to assume she already has the nomination and won the election. Her arrogance may be her undoing. I don't even think Sanders is going to be a factor in the primary IF Biden throws his hat in.
I still think that any of the GOP candidates could beat Hillary if she gets the nomination. I really think that Biden would be harder to beat, as ridiculous as that sounds right now. Personally, out of all the possibles, if any Democrat has to win the general election I would rather it be Biden than Hillary or Bernie. At least Biden has a reputation from congress at working across the aisle. Democrat party leaders may very well get to the point where they feel that Hillary is a liability and dump her. It will be a hard decision because she is female and they really would like to exploit that angle. Hillary really has a lot of bailing to do to keep her ship afloat. Wonder why she is waiting so long. Maybe she knows that she doesn't have any answers to the questions that the media wants to ask. Or, she is hoping that she can keep the evidence of her criminal activity hidden.

Guest 08-02-2015 09:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094671)
I believe that it is premature to count the polls regarding the general election, especially before any debates. Once we have debates, then the point spread will be greater, separating the GOP contenders. By that time, I am pretty sure that Clinton's popularity will have fallen substantially. Biden's poll numbers are already competitive with Clinton's so we don't yet know where this is going. Hilary seems to assume she already has the nomination and won the election. Her arrogance may be her undoing. I don't even think Sanders is going to be a factor in the primary IF Biden throws his hat in.
I still think that any of the GOP candidates could beat Hillary if she gets the nomination. I really think that Biden would be harder to beat, as ridiculous as that sounds right now. Personally, out of all the possibles, if any Democrat has to win the general election I would rather it be Biden than Hillary or Bernie. At least Biden has a reputation from congress at working across the aisle. Democrat party leaders may very well get to the point where they feel that Hillary is a liability and dump her. It will be a hard decision because she is female and they really would like to exploit that angle. Hillary really has a lot of bailing to do to keep her ship afloat. Wonder why she is waiting so long. Maybe she knows that she doesn't have any answers to the questions that the media wants to ask. Or, she is hoping that she can keep the evidence of her criminal activity hidden.

Not a good post.....A GREAT, WELL THOUGHT OUT, POST, and in my opinion accurate assessment

Guest 08-02-2015 10:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094671)
I believe that it is premature to count the polls regarding the general election, especially before any debates. Once we have debates, then the point spread will be greater, separating the GOP contenders. By that time, I am pretty sure that Clinton's popularity will have fallen substantially. Biden's poll numbers are already competitive with Clinton's so we don't yet know where this is going. Hilary seems to assume she already has the nomination and won the election. Her arrogance may be her undoing. I don't even think Sanders is going to be a factor in the primary IF Biden throws his hat in.
I still think that any of the GOP candidates could beat Hillary if she gets the nomination. I really think that Biden would be harder to beat, as ridiculous as that sounds right now. Personally, out of all the possibles, if any Democrat has to win the general election I would rather it be Biden than Hillary or Bernie. At least Biden has a reputation from congress at working across the aisle. Democrat party leaders may very well get to the point where they feel that Hillary is a liability and dump her. It will be a hard decision because she is female and they really would like to exploit that angle. Hillary really has a lot of bailing to do to keep her ship afloat. Wonder why she is waiting so long. Maybe she knows that she doesn't have any answers to the questions that the media wants to ask. Or, she is hoping that she can keep the evidence of her criminal activity hidden.

That's a big negatory, good buddy. At this point in time, way too early, Sec. Clinton would win against any Republican candidate.

Look at the Democrat demographics vs the Republican demographics and you will see it is a win for Democrats. The Republicans are to divided against themselves and also against the demographic of the Democrats. Like it or not, those Hispanics, blacks, other minorities, poor people, legal immigrants, young people, and women do count a lot. Pandering to them by Democrats creates a win for Democrats. Voting against their programs by Republicans creates more animosity toward Republicans by those demographic groups and thus almost guarantees a Democrat win for 2012 presidency - no matter who the Democrat nominee is.

Guest 08-02-2015 10:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094692)
That's a big negatory, good buddy. At this point in time, way too early, Sec. Clinton would win against any Republican candidate.

Look at the Democrat demographics vs the Republican demographics and you will see it is a win for Democrats. The Republicans are to divided against themselves and also against the demographic of the Democrats. Like it or not, those Hispanics, blacks, other minorities, poor people, legal immigrants, young people, and women do count a lot. Pandering to them by Democrats creates a win for Democrats. Voting against their programs by Republicans creates more animosity toward Republicans by those demographic groups and thus almost guarantees a Democrat win for 2012 presidency - no matter who the Democrat nominee is.

Sadly some good points.

Sigh as I say those magic words this poster used and used accurately....

PANDERING

Sad to see that the good of the country comes AFTER THE POLITICS.

Big sigh again...so sad

Guest 08-02-2015 10:34 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094692)
That's a big negatory, good buddy. At this point in time, way too early, Sec. Clinton would win against any Republican candidate.

Look at the Democrat demographics vs the Republican demographics and you will see it is a win for Democrats. The Republicans are to divided against themselves and also against the demographic of the Democrats. Like it or not, those Hispanics, blacks, other minorities, poor people, legal immigrants, young people, and women do count a lot. Pandering to them by Democrats creates a win for Democrats. Voting against their programs by Republicans creates more animosity toward Republicans by those demographic groups and thus almost guarantees a Democrat win for 2012 presidency - no matter who the Democrat nominee is.


Assuming you meant to say 2016, although the exact same thing could have been said in 2012. When your opponents are imploding, step out of their way.

Guest 08-02-2015 11:54 AM

Actually, you are mistaken. If the election was today (and it isn't) then ALL the Republicans would be voting for a single Republican candidate. And two important parts that you are not considering is that there will be a minute black turn out compared to what Obama drew. Second is, that you forget that she would not get the Independent vote she needs to win today. I also believe that Hillary would not get as many female voters to turn out for HER as she might have gotten a year or two or three ago. It seems that the closer we get to the elections, the less support she is getting. Her favorability is fading, fading, fading. It seems that you are already giving her the election, just as she arrogantly assumes that she has it in the bag. A lot of factors can change. Biden might enter the race. She might go to jail (not likely).

Predicting Hillary's win this early is way too premature. I will predict that in about two weeks, it will be predicted that she would ether tie or lose to one of the Republicans. Then her party leaders will do a reassessment and consider dropping her for another Democrat, possibly Biden. And that won't bother me at all. Not that I would welcome his winning the election, but he would be better than what we have in there now and much better than Hillary.

Guest 08-02-2015 12:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094745)
Actually, you are mistaken. If the election was today (and it isn't) then ALL the Republicans would be voting for a single Republican candidate. And two important parts that you are not considering is that there will be a minute black turn out compared to what Obama drew. Second is, that you forget that she would not get the Independent vote she needs to win today. I also believe that Hillary would not get as many female voters to turn out for HER as she might have gotten a year or two or three ago. It seems that the closer we get to the elections, the less support she is getting. Her favorability is fading, fading, fading. It seems that you are already giving her the election, just as she arrogantly assumes that she has it in the bag. A lot of factors can change. Biden might enter the race. She might go to jail (not likely).

Predicting Hillary's win this early is way too premature. I will predict that in about two weeks, it will be predicted that she would ether tie or lose to one of the Republicans. Then her party leaders will do a reassessment and consider dropping her for another Democrat, possibly Biden. And that woun't bother me at all. Not that I would welcome his winning the election, but he would be better than what we have in there now and much better than Hillary.

If you go back to my post, I was speaking of the demographics of both parties. The black vote has seen the unfavorable writings and actions taken to them by Republicans in Congress. They will turn out for a Democrat nominee. Same for the poor people, the legal immigrants, young voters, and a high percentage of women voters. These go Democrat. Not necessarily talking Hillary but Democrat!

These demographics do not want their government free stuff to stop. They will vote en masse and they vote Democrat. Be it Clinton, Sanders, Biden, or whomever the Democrat nominee is: they win.

Guest 08-02-2015 01:58 PM

I am still here. I read the guidelines before I started posting. "No personal attacks." "conduct unbecoming a TOTV poster".

Let's see. I been called a racist numerous times. I have also been called a troll, moron, idiot, cry baby, and I am sure many other names. Do you actually know what "no personal attacks" means? You probably do, but don't think that it applies to you.

I have no problem at all going to administrators of the board, and showing them exactly what I did, and WHY. I will go over with them the history of my posts, and what the responses were from other posters here. I asked what appeared to be two reasonable Republican posters, and asked them to put a lid on name callers, that add nothing to this forum. There wasn't a peep from these two.

As far as the name callers are concerned, you got what was coming to you. If the administrators are honest, and suspend me for my behavior, they will have to suspend 95% of the Republicans here for the same behavior. The easiest person in the world to fool is yourself. Denying what you did wasn't the cause of the backlash is fooling yourself into believing that you have done nothing wrong.

Do what you do best ignore this post, because it hits directly at home.

Guest 08-02-2015 02:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094801)
I am still here. I read the guidelines before I started posting. "No personal attacks." "conduct unbecoming a TOTV poster".

Let's see. I been called a racist numerous times. I have also been called a troll, moron, idiot, cry baby, and I am sure many other names. Do you actually know what "no personal attacks" means? You probably do, but don't think that it applies to you.

I have no problem at all going to administrators of the board, and showing them exactly what I did, and WHY. I will go over with them the history of my posts, and what the responses were from other posters here. I asked what appeared to be two reasonable Republican posters, and asked them to put a lid on name callers, that add nothing to this forum. There wasn't a peep from these two.

As far as the name callers are concerned, you got what was coming to you. If the administrators are honest, and suspend me for my behavior, they will have to suspend 95% of the Republicans here for the same behavior. The easiest person in the world to fool is yourself. Denying what you did wasn't the cause of the backlash is fooling yourself into believing that you have done nothing wrong.

Do what you do best ignore this post, because it hits directly at home.

If you are iwning up to the pornographic iteration in an earlier post....you are working way too hard to justify what is just out and out wrong in a public forum.

We all understand why some have to do real name calling and making crude remarks about the person, their background, party, religion or anything else some of you spew all over. We tolerate/ignore that.

Bto stoop so low as to use the type language you did in that post is just plain crude behavior. If the administrations does not take such behavior to task then I will be shocked.

This is not what we opted in for and save the BS about getting what we get when we opt in. You know damn well you crossed the line and should man up and volunteer to get off the forum for unwarranted behavior.

Guest 08-02-2015 03:27 PM

Here is a partial list of what we (the collective we) are called regularly on this forum. I may have just scratched the surface and maybe it can be expanded on the Just For Fun section

Ignorant troll socialist libtard teabag idiot lunatic wingnut moron racist sexist stupid regressive .........

Perhaps a Communication 101 class is needed. Intelligent posts get dumbed down by this rhetoric and rendered ineffectual. What happens then is standards are lowered to the point that shock value is all that's left.

Guest 08-02-2015 03:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094839)
Here is a partial list of what we (the collective we) are called regularly on this forum. I may have just scratched the surface and maybe it can be expanded on the Just For Fun section

Ignorant troll socialist libtard teabag idiot lunatic wingnut moron racist sexist stupid regressive .........

Perhaps a Communication 101 class is needed. Intelligent posts get dumbed down by this rhetoric and rendered ineffectual. What happens then is standards are lowered to the point that shock value is all that's left.

And of course you and whomever WE is that you refer to always post with links, facts to support your case etc.

And since yours is one whose name always show for a bit, let me tell you something. I know for a fact that the GUEST function has allowed "cover" for many left leaning folks to post their true feelings without the PM criticism, etc (not referring to you specifically, but think you might understands)

Of course both sides do it. I have been a racist, bigot, neo whatever, Tea ******, retard, nut job, etc and those are just aimed at me. In addition, most conservatives are really ripped on your (again using the collective as you did with WE) alternate site of Topix. Some names on there cannot, or should not be repeated.

This thread had some responsible posts, and then you and maybe a few others started with a series of simply name calling without even an attempt at discussion.

I share your concern with the name calling, but PLEASE SPARE me the "poor me" thing...it makes you look very silly. You KNOW for sure some who do it routinely thus your innocence and hurt feelings do not register. Fact is I have seen you simply jump on with a few little one liners. If I sound a bit peeved at your holier than thou post that is why....I know you do it.

Guest 08-02-2015 04:16 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest (Post 1094855)
And of course you and whomever WE is that you refer to always post with links, facts to support your case etc.

And since yours is one whose name always show for a bit, let me tell you something. I know for a fact that the GUEST function has allowed "cover" for many left leaning folks to post their true feelings without the PM criticism, etc (not referring to you specifically, but think you might understands)

Of course both sides do it. I have been a racist, bigot, neo whatever, Tea ******, retard, nut job, etc and those are just aimed at me. In addition, most conservatives are really ripped on your (again using the collective as you did with WE) alternate site of Topix. Some names on there cannot, or should not be repeated.

This thread had some responsible posts, and then you and maybe a few others started with a series of simply name calling without even an attempt at discussion.

I share your concern with the name calling, but PLEASE SPARE me the "poor me" thing...it makes you look very silly. You KNOW for sure some who do it routinely thus your innocence and hurt feelings do not register. Fact is I have seen you simply jump on with a few little one liners. If I sound a bit peeved at your holier than thou post that is why....I know you do it.

It was hardly a "poor me" post. Just pontificating. Never been on Topix or know anything about it so your reference should have been the collective our. And I know that my name shows up but who cares? If I go to my Galaxy Note 4 running Lollipop 5.0.1 poster's names show up under my notifications screen. The Guest thing only works selectively. Once again, who cares? Some of the most adamant posters here are much more polite and contributory on the other side.

Guest 08-02-2015 05:03 PM

Post# 118 - I totally agree with most of the things that you said. The "poor me" doesn't apply. That seems to imply that I feel sorry for myself, which I don't. As far as silly is concerned, it would be silly to expect some people will ever change here. I guess, name calling is to divert attention away from a post that makes sense, but doesn't fit your way of thinking. You can't be wrong; therefore, the other person is a moron or in my world a right wing nut(lol).

As for obscenity, I didn't use any language that would get bleeped out on TV. There are obviously children on TV, which would probably laugh at the things I posted. Adults here are so thinned skinned that making a joke about the size of their canole offends them. That's funny.

I grew up in a racially balanced working class neighborhood. It was half Irish, and half Italian. Making fun of each other's nationality was a way of life from the age of 5 years on. Why would I get offended at the name calling?

I am a little upset at you, because you took the words right out of my mouth. "holier that thou". You can't even imagine how many times I almost threw that out there.

One liners! When in Rome do like the Romans.

So, there is no confusion here are my posts on this thread 13, 14, 22, 34, 37, 41, 44, 50, 57, 71 and 76. The ones that are out of line are 81, 89, 90, and 94. I made several after that starting with asking for the administrator's email address. I'll get the number, after I post this. If I go back, I am afraid I will have to type this post over again.


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