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Guest 08-02-2015 05:11 PM

The other two posts are 97, and 115.

Guest 08-02-2015 05:26 PM

Again, I have to recommend you watch the movie Bulworth, especially on cable. Bulworth is a Democratic senator from California running for reelection in 1998. He gets in with the black crowd, and picks up their frequent use of obscenities.

He is being interviewed on nationwide TV, and the host asks him, "Why the change in language? Why the use of obscenities?" Bulworth's singing response is "Obscenities! Obscenities! The real obscenity is believing a mother bleepin word the Democrats, and Republicans have to say!"

Given the makeup of this crowd, I think you will like Hollywood's attack primarily on the Democratic party in the Clinton years. Everything in this movie still applies today.

Guest 08-02-2015 05:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094745)
Actually, you are mistaken. If the election was today (and it isn't) then ALL the Republicans would be voting for a single Republican candidate. And two important parts that you are not considering is that there will be a minute black turn out compared to what Obama drew. Second is, that you forget that she would not get the Independent vote she needs to win today. I also believe that Hillary would not get as many female voters to turn out for HER as she might have gotten a year or two or three ago. It seems that the closer we get to the elections, the less support she is getting. Her favorability is fading, fading, fading. It seems that you are already giving her the election, just as she arrogantly assumes that she has it in the bag. A lot of factors can change. Biden might enter the race. She might go to jail (not likely).

Predicting Hillary's win this early is way too premature. I will predict that in about two weeks, it will be predicted that she would ether tie or lose to one of the Republicans. Then her party leaders will do a reassessment and consider dropping her for another Democrat, possibly Biden. And that won't bother me at all. Not that I would welcome his winning the election, but he would be better than what we have in there now and much better than Hillary.


Yeah, Hillary is only polling at 80% among democrats. She must be shaking in her shoes. Sadly for Joe Biden, Hillary has already lined up most of the big democratic donors and politicos. Everybody loves Joe, but it's surprising to hear republicans heap praise on him after bashing him for seven years.

Will clip, print and save your post to read back to you in two weeks to see if your prediction came true.

Guest 08-02-2015 06:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094896)
Yeah, Hillary is only polling at 80% among democrats. She must be shaking in her shoes. Sadly for Joe Biden, Hillary has already lined up most of the big democratic donors and politicos. Everybody loves Joe, but it's surprising to hear republicans heap praise on him after bashing him for seven years.

Will clip, print and save your post to read back to you in two weeks to see if your prediction came true.

Actually, if you are interested in facts, she has a solid 55% among Democrats and not 80 as you say with absolutely no link or any validation....just words !

"Despite her struggles in general election match-ups, Clinton’s position as a front-runner for the Democratic nomination remains solid with 55 percent of Democrats supporting her—roughly unchanged from a year ago. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ gains, meanwhile, have slowed. The May poll found the avowed socialist’s support spiking from 8% to 15% from a month before; this month he has the backing of 17% of Democrats


Hillary Clinton Polling Numbers Down In New National Election Survey

"The poll still shows her with a commanding lead in the Democratic race, as she leads with 55% of the Democratic vote nationwide.

Read more: Hillary Clinton poll: Bad general election news - Business Insider


But that is ok....what is 25 points !!

Guest 08-02-2015 08:50 PM

The election is over a year away. Bush, and Walker have pretty much escaped the heat of the press with all the attention Trump has been receiving. As soon as their records come into view, they will both slip. The one thing that you can expect from the press they hardly ever write anything good about the candidate of the opposite party. If there is a neutral press out there, it is very well hidden.

The Republicans are going to overplay their hand with Benghazi. Trey Gowdy comment about a speedy hearing is going to come back to haunt him. Whether you want to hear it or not, the families of the four dead Americans has been lost in politics.

Given the amount of money Hillary has from donors, she will be able to portray herself as the victim of out of control Republican behavior. I am sure she will play the victim very well. The only thing that could hurt her in the quest for victimhood, is her armor piercing voice.

Guest 08-03-2015 01:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094898)
Actually, if you are interested in facts, she has a solid 55% among Democrats and not 80 as you say with absolutely no link or any validation....just words !

"Despite her struggles in general election match-ups, Clinton’s position as a front-runner for the Democratic nomination remains solid with 55 percent of Democrats supporting her—roughly unchanged from a year ago. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ gains, meanwhile, have slowed. The May poll found the avowed socialist’s support spiking from 8% to 15% from a month before; this month he has the backing of 17% of Democrats


Hillary Clinton Polling Numbers Down In New National Election Survey

"The poll still shows her with a commanding lead in the Democratic race, as she leads with 55% of the Democratic vote nationwide.

Read more: Hillary Clinton poll: Bad general election news - Business Insider


But that is ok....what is 25 points !!

And she still needs the Independent vote, which doesn't look favorable for her right now. Without the Independent vote, I doubt there is a chance for either party to win.

Guest 08-03-2015 01:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094885)
Again, I have to recommend you watch the movie Bulworth, especially on cable. Bulworth is a Democratic senator from California running for reelection in 1998. He gets in with the black crowd, and picks up their frequent use of obscenities.

He is being interviewed on nationwide TV, and the host asks him, "Why the change in language? Why the use of obscenities?" Bulworth's singing response is "Obscenities! Obscenities! The real obscenity is believing a mother bleepin word the Democrats, and Republicans have to say!"

Given the makeup of this crowd, I think you will like Hollywood's attack primarily on the Democratic party in the Clinton years. Everything in this movie still applies today.

Yes, it is a very funny movie.

Guest 08-03-2015 02:03 PM

Maybe Trump is taking all the heat off the other candidates on purpose. What would happen if he tears down Hillary, takes all the liberal media heat about his background and then when they get close to the elections, he drops out? The other candidates walk in unscathed and unblemished, one of them to win the primary and general election. Trump becomes the party hero. Naw.....but it sounds good.

Guest 08-03-2015 08:36 PM

Interesting news....as you read this if you do, remember when they raided General Petraeus's home for a server...

"A federal judge is ordering the State Department to ask Hillary Clinton to confirm, under penalty of perjury, that she has turned over certain work-related emails kept on a private email server during her Foggy Bottom tenure.

"The Government is HEREBY ORDERED to: (1) identify any and all servers, accounts, hard drives, or other devices currently in the possession or control of the State Department or otherwise that may contain responsive information; (2) request that the above named individuals confirm, under penalty of perjury, that they have produced all responsive information that was or is in their possession as a result of their employment at the State Department," U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan wrote Friday, after a status hearing over a lawsuit against the State Department.

Sullivan also ordered the department to seek confirmation from Clinton's aides at the time, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills."


Pretty impressive stuff actually. This, on Wednesday, a judge lambasted a State official for the department's slowness in responding to Associated Press requests for information, saying that certain records could have been processed within days "by the least ambitious bureaucrat."

And they want it now !!!!

Finally an editorial comment....

""Hillary Clinton will now have to answer, under penalty of perjury, to a federal court about the separate email server she and her aides used to avoid accountability to the American people," Fitton said in a statement. "This court action shows that the rule of law and public's right to know will no longer take a back seat to politics. Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration that is covering for her are not above the law."


Judge wants Clinton confirmation on State Department emails - CBS News

Guest 08-04-2015 10:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1095491)
Interesting news....as you read this if you do, remember when they raided General Petraeus's home for a server...

"A federal judge is ordering the State Department to ask Hillary Clinton to confirm, under penalty of perjury, that she has turned over certain work-related emails kept on a private email server during her Foggy Bottom tenure.

"The Government is HEREBY ORDERED to: (1) identify any and all servers, accounts, hard drives, or other devices currently in the possession or control of the State Department or otherwise that may contain responsive information; (2) request that the above named individuals confirm, under penalty of perjury, that they have produced all responsive information that was or is in their possession as a result of their employment at the State Department," U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan wrote Friday, after a status hearing over a lawsuit against the State Department.

Sullivan also ordered the department to seek confirmation from Clinton's aides at the time, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills."


Pretty impressive stuff actually. This, on Wednesday, a judge lambasted a State official for the department's slowness in responding to Associated Press requests for information, saying that certain records could have been processed within days "by the least ambitious bureaucrat."

And they want it now !!!!

Finally an editorial comment....

""Hillary Clinton will now have to answer, under penalty of perjury, to a federal court about the separate email server she and her aides used to avoid accountability to the American people," Fitton said in a statement. "This court action shows that the rule of law and public's right to know will no longer take a back seat to politics. Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration that is covering for her are not above the law."


Judge wants Clinton confirmation on State Department emails - CBS News

Can anyone hum the theme to "Hang'em High?"

Guest 08-04-2015 10:35 AM

We shall see what happens if anything other than the usual court/lawyer to lawyer contest of papers happens.

Clinton a trained lawyer, with her counsel (experts?) will use or abuse or hide bevery letter of the law.

I am always amused when the lawyer types say I have not done anything illegal. That does not mean they did not do something wrong.

Clinton and her lawyers know every move the courts or investigators will take. It is nothing more than a chess-like game during the iteration and re-iteration of papers during the process.

Hence I have no confidence she will experience any retribution other than getting knocked out of the race......while we would not see justice done we would at least remove the risk of having an unethical untrustworthy, proven liar and cheat from running for POTUS.

Guest 08-04-2015 10:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1094885)
Again, I have to recommend you watch the movie Bulworth, especially on cable. Bulworth is a Democratic senator from California running for reelection in 1998. He gets in with the black crowd, and picks up their frequent use of obscenities.

He is being interviewed on nationwide TV, and the host asks him, "Why the change in language? Why the use of obscenities?" Bulworth's singing response is "Obscenities! Obscenities! The real obscenity is believing a mother bleepin word the Democrats, and Republicans have to say!"

Given the makeup of this crowd, I think you will like Hollywood's attack primarily on the Democratic party in the Clinton years. Everything in this movie still applies today.


Donald Trump is the closest thing we have to a Bulworth character this campaign season. He doesn't give a rat's patootie what he says, and people love him for it.

Guest 08-04-2015 12:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1095743)
Donald Trump is the closest thing we have to a Bulworth character this campaign season. He doesn't give a rat's patootie what he says, and people love him for it.

Obama is the closest thing we have to a comedian. He makes me want to cry, but not from laughing. I wonder if he has been contracted to host SNL after he leaves the white house.

Guest 08-04-2015 10:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1095795)
Obama is the closest thing we have to a comedian. He makes me want to cry, but not from laughing. I wonder if he has been contracted to host SNL after he leaves the white house.

In Kenya!


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