Villages Kahuna

If it's ok to call George Bush Dubya, then it's ok to call Lord Obama Hussain (sp?) Yes? Benj

VILLAGE KAHUNA..

Save your anti Bush rant for somebody else and do not use me as an excuse to go on a anti Bush rant.

You obviously read only what you want...if you read the post I was responding to it was a give and take and someone had said to me IN SARCASTIC HUMOR...."Wow, McCain will jump in to as soon as he realizes Putin isn't the President of Germany!" I responded in kind, at least I thought so....."Not sure of your meaning on this, but just in case you hadnt heard Sen Mcain spoke directly to the President of Georgia...Sen Obama had a statement released ! "

FROM the above you came up with "I don't think any American politician should be criticized for requesting or demanding a cease fire."

NOW YOU SHOW ME....WHERE I IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM SAID OR IMPLIED IN ANY WAY that Obama was being criticized by me or anyone and where I even mentioned a cease fire.

Take your anti Bush ranting and raving somewhere else PLEASE !

I am sick and tired of hearing a defense where none is needed...I am sick and tired of it being an ISSUE for the Sen Obama campaign to go off with an anti Bush rant. I am not defending GW Bush NOR IS HE RUNNING FOR ANYTHING.

You know I tried to engage here in some political discussion...I have been nasty to noone...I have asked for ISSUES to discuss. From now on if you want to quote me...DO IN CONTEXT.

And I agree with the BENJ who brings up the point that you are ok with calling the President of the United States by names, and that is different from criticizing issues...calling the President names is ok with you but as this entire campaign thus far is showing...you cannot in any way even imply something about Sen Obama or you will be dubbed a racist or what ever.......WHAT DID SENATOR OBAMA DO FOR YOU OR THIS COUNTRY TO GET THIS KIND OF PASSIONATE SUPPORT....that I keep asking ?????

I apologize if I've offended anyone with my comments on this subject. My comments were not intended to criticize or belittle anyone here.

But am I disappointed and frustrated by the deterioration of our country in so many ways? Yes, I am. Is it all one man's fault? Decidedly not. Is it the fault of the Congress plus members of the executive branch? An argument could be made that they all share a lot of the responsibility. But the manner in which our country's economy, reputation, military strength and influence has been degraded can probably be blamed on our elected representatives as well as ourselves. Somehow we all have permitted our government to slide into a political quagmire, driven more by the self-interest of those elected and the special interests who pay to assure their own interests will be served.

Going forward I think we need to pay greater attention to what our elected leaders are doing or not doing that will make our current situation better and hopefully not worse. The situation in Georgia seems to demonstrate how little we all know about what's going on over there (myself included). What's frustrating is how some of our leaders seem to have taken actions for seemingly political or idealogical reasons, either ignoring or failing to work with those we might call friends and allies in an attempt to resolve the problem. Do we think people should be killing each other and destroying property for inexplicable reasons? Of course not. Have our leaders reacted simply because we're trying to defend and support a fragile democracy in Georgia? Maybe. Should we be asking why Georgia's neighbors don't seem to be interested enough to become involved? I think so. Should we be attempting to forge a solution to the Georgia problem with statesmanship rather than barging in and trying to apply influence which we clearly don't have? I think so.

So if my frustration with our current political leaders shows thru in my post, I again apologize. Do I think that many changes in our political leadership is critically needed? Yes I do. Fortunately, it seems that we have two pretty good candidates for President. I wish I could say the same for all the members of Congress that are running for re-election.

Going forward I'll try to focus only on the facts that seem to be important in making our decisions on who should represent us. And I'll definitely avoid even mentioning the current administration. There is obviously little to be gained by somehow trying to create new criticisms and it doesn't make anyone feel any better anyway.

It might be a good idea for those that have the time to watch the in-depth interviews with both Senators McCain and Obama on CNN tomorrow night. My hope is that by listening to them both for a couple of hours we'll find out a lot more than spending any time listening or reacting to the sound bites and ads being created by their political advisors.

Winston Churchill identified the current political situation in the U.S. quite well almost 50 years ago when he said, "A politician thinks about the next elections - the statesman thinks about the next generations."

Originally Posted by Bucco

Yes, I did hear that. Also heard that Obama's statment asked for an immediate cease fire. Which they did.
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I am sure,....all the others in the world were trumped when they saw Sen Obama on a surf board
Forget all the heads of state...Pres of France,etc.....the surfer dude got it done LOL

He never was on a surf board dude....he was body surfing which doesn't require a board. I was in Hawaii the same week he was....it ****ed me off when I had to wait at the airport till he finished a speech in a park near by. He was visiting his grandmother who is unable to travel and you want to attack him on that. SHAME SHAME SHAME. > > >

Cologal, I couldn't agree with you more. Shame, shame, shame.