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Guest 03-07-2012 02:24 PM

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Constant fawning over this President if funny to me. Talk about mind-numbed robots.

Beep, Beep. :grumpy:

Guest 03-07-2012 03:11 PM

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I was thinking of now and not so many yesterdays ago. That Senator that you speak of has had much vindication on review. He was right about much of what he spoke, so maybe I'll take your post as a compliment.

Obama's virtually unknown past is starting to be revealed. Don't get upset, just relax and be witness to it.

I know none of this will be in the national media as they are as protective of Obama as you are, but the news won't be contained.

Perhaps, they are trivial items from Obama's past. He seems to be one of the Presidents whose past is the most accessible to even a mediocre researcher. Now, the Bush who was the Director of the CIA; there is someone whose past probably will not be uncovered for 50 years or more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directo...l_Intelligence

I suppose that Senator Joe McCarthy did a little bit of good; but also a great deal of bad. If you have Ann Coulter rewriting the history of the McCarthy era, then the picture of the person being portrayed is going to be very different from the writings of more objective scholars. http://hnn.us/articles/1554.html

Guest 03-07-2012 04:19 PM

Wrrrrrrrrrr. Beep. :grumpy:

Guest 03-07-2012 07:33 PM

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Perhaps, they are trivial items from Obama's past. He seems to be one of the Presidents whose past is the most accessible to even a mediocre researcher.[/url]

Seriously??...........we know almost nothing about this President with his previous life a maze of "records sealed". This is the most secretive life I've ever seen.

That's why I sincerely believe he's got plenty to hide. I'd like to know what.

We starting to get a glimpse into his past now. With this and with the reveal of formerly inaccessible video footage from his college years.

I would think even his supporters should be interested in this.

Guest 03-08-2012 08:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 463993)
Seriously??...........we know almost nothing about this President with his previous life a maze of "records sealed". This is the most secretive life I've ever seen.

That's why I sincerely believe he's got plenty to hide. I'd like to know what.

We starting to get a glimpse into his past now. With this and with the reveal of formerly inaccessible video footage from his college years.

I would think even his supporters should be interested in this.



What exactly do you mean about "records sealed". There are privacy laws for a reason. There are some things that would be off limits like medical records, maybe some grades, some juvenile schools records, etc.


What are the holes you are pointing at in this Wikipedia article?-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Guest 03-08-2012 08:14 AM

Privacy laws didn't stop President Obama from getting divorce records "unsealed" of two of his opponents, in Chicago.

Guest 03-08-2012 08:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 464123)
Privacy laws didn't stop President Obama from getting divorce records "unsealed" of two of his opponents, in Chicago.

Do you have some source for this???

If you mean Jack Ryan, then you have your facts wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(politician) It looks like that was a newspaper and a radio station that lead the campaign to unseal the divorce records. Ugly politics, yes. But, it does not look like Obama was involved at all. His staffers might have made mistakes in this though.

Guest 03-08-2012 08:30 AM

Ok. He didn't personally go to the court house. His minions took care of it. When he ran for state senate he was able to get all three of his opponents knocked off the ballot. You're right. Chicago politics.

Guest 03-08-2012 08:32 AM

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Ok. He didn't personally go to the court house. His minions took care of it. When he ran for state senate he was able to get all three of his opponents knocked off the ballot. You're right. Chicago politics.

The divorce though involving the Ryans looks like it was in Los Angeles.

This just looks like more character assassination attempts with very poorly laid out facts.

Can you give some source for the Illinois State Senate opponents???

Guest 03-08-2012 08:36 AM

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In 1998 Barack H. Obama attended a play in Chicago called "The Love Song of Saul Alinsky". There's more; he also participated win a panel discussion after the play concluded.

As reported in the New American, this panel consisted of:

Barack H. Obama: Chicago community organizer.

Leon Despres: Despres an Alinsky confidant for many years. Together, he and Alinsky founded the concept of "community organizing." He was intimate with the Communist Party front, and worked with Soviet spy Lee Pressman to support workers in a riot at Republican Steel in Chicago. Also Despres and his wife provided Leon Trotsky, the Marxist revolutionary and founder of the Red Army — with a suitcase of "clothing" in 1937.

Quentin Young: For over 20 years Young was an key member of the Communist Party front organization. A close friend and Obama's personal doctor, Mr. Young is known to have helped shape the President’s stance on healthcare policy.

Roberta Lynch: Lynch was a key member of the Democratic Socialists of America, and a leader of the Marxist New American Movement which is a radical socialist and feminist organization that was founded on communist principle.

Timuel Black: Black was said to be a member of the Communist Party, and had a prominent place in the Socialist Party in the 1950s. He was an editor to the Hyde Park/Kenwood Voices, a magazine run by Communist Party member David Canter. Timuel Black revealed that he had been friends with domestic terrorists Bernardine Dohrn and William Ayers, "going back to 1968, since long before I knew Barack."

A fine list of people above, don't you think?

I think this is one of the most revealing things about our "record's sealed" President yet. If one is judged by his friends and the company he keeps, this is a good indication.

Chicago writer Michael Miner is defending Obama's attendance at this play and his participation in the discussion panel afterwards, but as even Miner noted, "Obama did not merely attend the play; he was featured on the poster and in the panel discussion that followed."

So, if the play’s so harmless, why are Obama’s allies hiding it?

Why not release the video tape?

There's more to come, but you might like to read these three articles on this revelation.

Obama Attended 1998 Play Called "The Love Song of Saul Alinsky"

Obama Ally Won't Release Alinsky Tape

Saul Alinsky, poster child | Michael Miner on Media | Chicago Reader

Richie, where have you been for the past four or five years? ;-) Read Obama's books, listen to what he says, look at the people he surrounds himself with now; not just in his younger, formative years. It isn't anything new or something that needs additional documentation. The man is a Progressive with a mindset to fundamentally change America and interpret the US Constitution to his agenda.

Guest 03-08-2012 09:03 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 464134)
Ok. He didn't personally go to the court house. His minions took care of it. When he ran for state senate he was able to get all three of his opponents knocked off the ballot. You're right. Chicago politics.

Not sure if there is anything here with the Illinois State Senate race. Cannot see why there would be anything other than the rival candidates not getting enough signatures to be put on the ballot. Illinois Senate elections of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Guest 03-08-2012 10:39 AM

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Richie, where have you been for the past four or five years? ;-) Read Obama's books, listen to what he says, look at the people he surrounds himself with now; not just in his younger, formative years. It isn't anything new or something that needs additional documentation. The man is a Progressive with a mindset to fundamentally change America and interpret the US Constitution to his agenda.

Selective posting....

THANKS BKCUNNINGHAM....

Tried to get folks attention on this board in 2008 about this guys background and how he has conned folks for years and years.

BK is right on....READ HIS BOOKS..they dont even jive up with facts.

I supplied many many links on here and was called all kind of names...even worse than Limbaugh's choice.....I was overreacting, etc.

The President is NOT what he appears to be...he is a player of the greatest magnitude and I might add talent...he is good at it.

Can you imagine Romney, Gingerich or Santorium having the associations this guy has had in his past ? Can you imagine any of them having a pastor like Wright as a MENTOR ? None of whatever he does makes the mainstream media YET, they dissect any slip ups from the right no matter how minor.

I feel much better posting now, since it appears after the Limbaugh thing thing and the release of the Maher comments.....it is now considered ok to call anyone, including the President anything we want since Maher was crude and actually filthy referring to a sitting senator, a governor and candidate for VP.

Thanks again BK CUNNINGHAM

Guest 03-08-2012 10:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 464194)
Selective posting....

THANKS BKCUNNINGHAM....

Tried to get folks attention on this board in 2008 about this guys background and how he has conned folks for years and years.

BK is right on....READ HIS BOOKS..they dont even jive up with facts.

I supplied many many links on here and was called all kind of names...even worse than Limbaugh's choice.....I was overreacting, etc.

The President is NOT what he appears to be...he is a player of the greatest magnitude and I might add talent...he is good at it.

Can you imagine Romney, Gingerich or Santorium having the associations this guy has had in his past ? Can you imagine any of them having a pastor like Wright as a MENTOR ? None of whatever he does makes the mainstream media YET, they dissect any slip ups from the right no matter how minor.

I feel much better posting now, since it appears after the Limbaugh thing thing and the release of the Maher comments.....it is now considered ok to call anyone, including the President anything we want since Maher was crude and actually filthy referring to a sitting senator, a governor and candidate for VP.

Thanks again BK CUNNINGHAM

If you can back it up, BK CUNNINGHAM. There are a lot of things you cannot say about a public figure without it being libelous. They have some protections.

Guest 03-08-2012 11:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 464209)
If you can back it up, BK CUNNINGHAM. There are a lot of things you cannot say about a public figure without it being libelous. They have some protections.

Can you call a sitting US senator....."Boobs" ?

Can you call a candidate for VP........"expletive deleted" ?

Be specific.....candidates for Rep presidential have been called by various names, character questioned, etc.......can that be done ?

Dont speak in generalities.....the above seemed to be welcome for some posters on here...you ok with them ? Does the R or D after the name make a difference ?

Guest 03-08-2012 11:08 AM

You have been saying it for years, Bucco. You are right about what the media would do if any of the current Republican candidates had associates or agendas that mirrored Obama's. Admiration by the Progressives of the radical activist Saul Alinsky isn't news. Even Hillary Clinton's senior thesis on Alinsky is a well known fact. They are proud of their views and openly tout their beliefs and their desires to change and control America.


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