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Guest 03-08-2012 04:19 PM
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If there is nothing to hide, why give the appearance of something inappropriate, Dale? Why be secretive yet talk about openness? It just makes fodder for people to say that perhaps his grades weren't up to par, he was registered as a foreign student or he received a scholarship from someone else associated with Alinsky.
Two reasons to withhold. 1. the right wingnuts want the info, and 2. it's irrelevent. Thats' easy enough. :grumpy:

Guest 03-08-2012 04:19 PM
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Here are the known facts: President Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University. While attending Harvard, he was elected President of the Harvard Law Review. Sounds a lot like "his grades weren't up to par".

How did that whole investigation of George W Bush's grades at Yale work out? The only accomplishment I ever heard about his undergrad days was that he was a cheerleader.
Bush has his grades readily available on the net along with his college admission tests. AND I remind you that you have been reading "press" on Obama grades.....there IS NO TRANSCRIPT..NO RECORD...they have been sealed and that is public knowledge.

And why only comment on the grades...how about all the other murky shadowy secrets ? How bout the relationship with Wright,the hidden and edited video.....and WHY did the birth certificate thing even take place ?
What was his relationship with Rezko, Ayers, etc. Why are not and have not these relationships been made clear when others must go into their worst past secrets ?

Guest 03-08-2012 04:22 PM
Because the King has decreed it will not be done.

Guest 03-08-2012 04:23 PM
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Bush has his grades readily available on the net along with his college admission tests. AND I remind you that you have been reading "press" on Obama grades.....there IS NO TRANSCRIPT..NO RECORD...they have been sealed and that is public knowledge.

And why only comment on the grades...how about all the other murky shadowy secrets ? How bout the relationship with Wright,the hidden and edited video.....and WHY did the birth certificate thing even take place ?
What was his relationship with Rezko, Ayers, etc. Why are not and have not these relationships been made clear when others must go into their worst past secrets ?
Please post a link to Bush's grades and college admission tests. Do you also have a link to Bush's military records?

Guest 03-08-2012 04:26 PM
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Please post a link to Bush's grades and college admission tests. Do you also have a link to Bush's military records?
For what reason, Bush as not been President for 3 years, that is 36 months of no Bush, and 36 plus months of Obama. Time to stop blaming Bush for everything and time for Obama to take responsibility for the current mess that we are in. For the first two years that Obama was president, he had a Demo congress, house and senate, and should have been able to pass and do whatever he wanted.

Guest 03-08-2012 04:30 PM
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Please post a link to Bush's grades and college admission tests. Do you also have a link to Bush's military records?
Bush/Gore Grades and SAT Scores


http://www.usatoday.com/news/2004-02-14-bush-docs.htm

From now on, please do your own research

Guest 03-08-2012 04:34 PM
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It is part of the overall ....not sure what to call it.....seal the grades, the video last night was not only hidden but edited, dont allow anyone to question some figures from the past and on and on....it is part of what has been the making of a President, and my personal objection is that NOBODY could get away with as much "hidden secrets" as he has with absolutely no backlash.

Imagine we find out that you cannot get to Romneys background..not all of it, just little things like past associations, his church life, his actual beliefs, a mentor who preaches Wright teaches, a video surfaces and it is edited and hidden from view. What can you imagine the press might do with that ?
Why won't Mitt Romney release more than one year's tax return? In 2008, President Obama released seven years worth of taxes and has released them every year ever since.

Guest 03-08-2012 05:13 PM
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I rarely look to Wiki for accuracy and no serious researcher does, and I certainly will not take the time to fact check them.

If you don't know what I mean by "records sealed" you haven't been paying attention.

No just Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News (fair and balanced), etc.

Wikipedia is good for current events as the articles often have a lot of links to more reliable sources. They are not signed so that is a problem with accountability and accuracy when it comes to things happening right at the moment.

Guest 03-08-2012 05:40 PM
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Two reasons to withhold. 1. the right wingnuts want the info, and 2. it's irrelevent. Thats' easy enough. :grumpy:
Reasons, that I assume from your post ONLY apply to one group and not the other.

Irelevent ? Maybe, but I was under the impression that in our country the voters were GIVEN THE INFORMATION and then decided !!!

At least that appears to work ONE direction !!!

Guest 03-08-2012 06:55 PM
If President Obama is such a dastardly individual, how come he's polling better that any republican candidate in all the latest polls?

Guest 03-08-2012 06:58 PM
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If President Obama is such a dastardly individual, how come he's polling better that any republican candidate in all the latest polls?
You really don;t get it...do you ?

You don't understand the power of the media and the complete lack of vetting of this man. And lets get something straight....NOBODY EVER called him anything close to a "dastardly individual".......NOBODY. He has not been vetted and there are things that need to be answered.

But stop with the typical liberal crap of making it sound like a personal attack..it is not !!!!

Guest 03-08-2012 07:05 PM
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You really don;t get it...do you ?

You don't understand the power of the media and the complete lack of vetting of this man. And lets get something straight....NOBODY EVER called him anything close to a "dastardly individual".......NOBODY. He has not been vetted and there are things that need to be answered.

But stop with the typical liberal crap of making it sound like a personal attack..it is not !!!!
Why are liberals like Jan getting hysterical? I find it very interesting.

Guest 03-08-2012 07:11 PM
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Why are liberals like Jan getting hysterical? I find it very interesting.
You should have been here in 2008...I was trying so hard to understand this senator with no experience, I actually read both his autobiographies, read through the archives of the Chicago papers.

I was called a racist among other things....they said "who cares".. and this I gotta share. A poster who during the primary between Clinton and Obama referred to him as "an empty suit" all of a sudden found him to be the savior.

READ...READ READ.....his life is interesting reading WITH MANY CORNERS AND SHADOWS.

Guest 03-09-2012 07:59 AM
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Why are liberals like Jan getting hysterical? I find it very interesting.
I'm getting hysterical laughing at the republican candidates.

Speaking of vetting, the new HBO movie "Game Change" admits that Sarah Palin was vetted for five days. Compare that with President Obama who campaigned from Feb 2007, the day he announced his candidacy in Springfield, IL, until the day he was elected in Nov 2008. If he wasn't vetted, it's the fault of the press, etc. You don't think the Clinton camp and the McCain camp looked under every rock?

Guest 03-09-2012 08:46 AM
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I'm getting hysterical laughing at the republican candidates.

Speaking of vetting, the new HBO movie "Game Change" admits that Sarah Palin was vetted for five days. Compare that with President Obama who campaigned from Feb 2007, the day he announced his candidacy in Springfield, IL, until the day he was elected in Nov 2008. If he wasn't vetted, it's the fault of the press, etc. You don't think the Clinton camp and the McCain camp looked under every rock?
Well, at least you are happy and laughing...that is a good thing. You are blessed to have a hero in the WH and belonging to the party of RIGHT (not as in political philosophy). Us slobs have just not been blessed as you have...count your blessings.

How did you find the golden path to adore Obama and choose the correct political party ? Share.....and while you are at it, do some readiing on the 2008 election process...many books but you will not hear about them on the sites you read or the tweets you get.


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