Originally Posted by buggyone

I am still waiting from HulaBaby for an answer to my question. In case you forgot,

"1. Dick Cheney's one daughter is a lesbian and got married a short time ago to another woman. Cheney's reaction was, "Former Vice President Dick Cheney has expressed his delight that his lesbian daughter Mary married her longtime partner Heather Poe on Friday.

“Mary and Heather have been in a committed relationship for many years, and we are delighted that they were able to take advantage of the opportunity to have that relationship recognized,” Cheney and his wife, Lynne, said in a statement.

2. Astronaut - and national hero - Sally Ride, who died yesterday at age 61 from cancer - was a lesbian. She and her partner had a committed relationship for 27 years.

What reaction would you have, Hulababy, if your son or daughter said they were going to marry a same-sex partner? Would you still love and support him/her or disown them? Think about it and then answer.

Also, what do you think of a lesbian being called a national hero?

What did I miss??

A discussion on the Marxist transformation of the party historically identified as "Democrat" has now become a discussion on our "feelings" about homosexual unions within our own families?


OK, I went back and found it Buddy. You were answered in posts #19 & #20. I forgot that interlude of yours.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

What did I miss??

A discussion on the Marxist transformation of the party historically identified as "Democrat" has now become a discussion on our "feelings" about homosexual unions within our own families?

Yeah, you missed about 2 pages from HulaBaby who was upset at the HOMOsexual (her wording) teachings in school. She has not given any answer yet - and probably will not.

I know your viewpoints on this, Richie.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Yeah, you missed about 2 pages from HulaBaby who was upset at the HOMOsexual (her wording) teachings in school. She has not given any answer yet - and probably will not.

I know your viewpoints on this, Richie.

I think she agreed with Sally Jo that she would love the sinner, but not the sin.

It's a Christian belief that you have to have tolerance for.

Nope, no one answered if they would still love their child if they said they were going to marry a same sex partner. They stated if their child was a homosexual but not to the marrying part. At least Cheney had the cajones to write a press release about that - even though it was probably false.

No one answered the Sally Ride part of the question either.

Originally Posted by buggyone

Nope, no one answered if they would still love their child if they said they were going to marry a same sex partner. They stated if their child was a homosexual but not to the marrying part. At least Cheney had the cajones to write a press release about that - even though it was probably false.

No one answered the Sally Ride part of the question either.

I still think my answer above accurately reflects the view of any devout Christian.

You love the sinner, but not the sin.

It's not too difficult to understand.

buggyone.. I guess I didn't say specifically about a same sex marriage. My answer is the same.

buggyone, liberals always try to make conservatives seem as if they hate homosexuals, and that is not true...we all know homosexual people who are sweet and kind and we want them to be protected by civil unions in regard to those they love. we just do not want the historic, religious meaning of marriage changed to accomodate their "different" lifestyle. this is no different than not accepting tri-way marriages, marriages of children etc...marriage is between one man and one woman for the purpose of nurturing a family, which is the backbone of society...this liberalism is just another way to destroy religious values upon which society is based. why? because there are those who would prefer the masses depend on govt rather than on family and God. homosexuals are just being used as their pawns. it is sad that they do not see this.

Originally Posted by chachacha

buggyone, liberals always try to make conservatives seem as if they hate homosexuals, and that is not true...we all know homosexual people who are sweet and kind and we want them to be protected by civil unions in regard to those they love. we just do not want the historic, religious meaning of marriage changed to accomodate their "different" lifestyle. this is no different than not accepting tri-way marriages, marriages of children etc...marriage is between one man and one woman for the purpose of nurturing a family, which is the backbone of society...this liberalism is just another way to destroy religious values upon which society is based. why? because there are those who would prefer the masses depend on govt rather than on family and God. homosexuals are just being used as their pawns. it is sad that they do not see this.

ChaCha, I presume you were a staunch Dick Cheney supporter. What do you feel about his statement about being glad Mary was able to get married?

What do you feel about Sally Ride, a lesbian, being called a national hero?

Personally, I feel that a civil union for gays and lesbians is the same as a traditional Justice of the Peace wedding for straight couples. It is a civil ceremony but is still called a marriage. Why not allow that for gays and lesbians - and have them afforded ALL the legal benefits of a traditional (straight couple) marriage?

Population control

Originally Posted by DDoug

Population control

Hahahaha, that's a hoot. Anybody reading about the Chinese and them raising Blue Hell about forced abortions? Dude, everybody loves tight bluejeans and rock n roll. They all come to our ways. Some to make a buck, others to ride the gravy train. The only, only threat to our way of life is the Muslim extremist. When we wake up to that, maybe our Grandchildren will be safe.

buggyone, you drive me buggy! you do not respond to any of my points about the calculated destruction of the foundations of our society, you just want to know how i feel about dick cheney and sally ride! if you had understood my post, you would deduce that i do not care about dick cheney supporting his daughter, that is a natural parental role. and i certainly take nothing away from sally ride's accomplishments because she was a lesbian.
but none of that means i want the definition of marriage changed. as david brookes said in a very good article in playboy "you have to honor the things that have lasted" (paraphrased)

when 50% of all marriages end in divorce it doesn't seem like they last too long.

Statistics show that same sex marriages last longer than traditional marriages.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

You're the one who kept asking her over and over what she believes and when she very nicely tells you, your only response is venom.

Totally insufferable.

(now I'll probably get whacked for having the audacity to call you on it)

I don't think that Lucca Brazzi or Tony Soprano is going to get a job over this matter.

I do not care to hear the regressive natterings of the tea party nor of the John Birchers. The USA is a forward thinking country and we do not need to go back to the 1950's.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Sometimes I really think you have no idea what you're talking about.

Your post make no sense to me whatsoever.

It all says nothing except that you don't know how else to respond when traditional American ideas and values are advanced to you.

So you pointlessly mock and ridicule without even your usual humor.

I say this with kindness.

There was no mocking or ridicule in my post. It was fact. The viewpoints put forth by the Tea Party and the "I see a communist everywhere in government" posters (i.e. John Birchers) are regressive back to the thinking and ideas of the 1950's Joe McCarthy era.

The USA is a country that is forward thinking instead of going backwards.