Sending in the Unions
 

Looks like they are going to send in the union thugs to confront angry patriots at the town hall meetings. Unions are paying back Obama for the neat auto bail-outs?

http://sistertoldjah.com/ ( note..this is not a news link)

The following article sums up the so called demonstrations:
 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...330098540.html

There was a clip on the news this morning asking if folks remember when Obama was running for POTUS....at one of his town hall meetings he said something to the effect....get in your neighbors face, tell them what you believe.....and now those who are doing so....are being called "manufactured"....a mob...

I think we may have finally found the cause celeb that is getting to we the people....they are finally seeing this is in my back yard....this IS going to affect ME....FINALLY....HOPEFULLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btk

Angry Patriots?
 

I've seen reports that many of the most vocal and disruptive attendees at the meetings have been hired and instructed on how to disrupt the meetings by lobbyists representing insurance and drug companies.

Whoever is disrupting the meetings are doing the public a diservice by interfering with the process of the public communicating with their elected representatives.

You sound like the mainstream media with their manufactured outrage. To belittle true patriots because of their outrage at the direction this country is heading, is cruel and unnecessary. It has been proven that these are just ordinary people.. not paid to be angry like the democrats are telling people.
The democrats should be ashamed. These are real legitimately unhappy people.... just like the Tea Party Patriots.

I guess it worked VK...I took your bait!!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08072009...ity_183409.htm

The Kahuna has it right.... why are people dedicated to mis-information.. just give it to us straight and you can make a decision ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BUT in these times TOO many people just listen to sound bites from their favorite talking head and believe every word.

While I absolutely concur with your closing paragraph, I must ask if there is any proof of the assertions of these "reports" you reference. I've seen reports that Elvis is alive, the tooth fairy is real, and Nixon didn't know about Watergate. Especially in today's environment, one can get "reports" to support any wing-nut belief. Just tune into Hannity, Olbermann, Savage, or Maddow. If the host doesn't throw it out there, one of their guests or callers will.

However regardless of the kernel of the protests, one cannot help but smirk at the irony of an administration centered on a man who earned his chops organizing "spontaneous" protests and who endorsed in-your-face confrontations during his campaign now crying that their opponents are using their tactics and it's not fair.



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Bucco, I couldn't have said it any better. It sure is ironic, huh?

What Was Important
 

No proof, Muncie. I can't even remember where I heard the report. It didn't surprise me when I did hear it.

But the last paragraph WAS the most important, as you noted.

I wouldn't go to a meeting held by Ginny Brown-Waite on this subject if she held one at Lake Sumter Landing, 10 minutes from my house. I "did my thing" by sending her and the two Senators an e-mail with my feelings on the needed healthcare reform. I know that my comments will be "check marked" on some report of constituent contacts, which is probably better than you could in communicating your feelings than at an unruly town hall meeting.

By the way, here were the items I listed as important to me in any healthcare reform legislation...

• Medical tort reform
• No reduction in Medicare funding
• Healthcare for 100% of American citizens
• No healthcare paid for or required from hospital ER's for anyone without citizenship documentation.
• A "government-provided" insurance option

I sure hope your right Bille, they can only try to dismiss them for so long before it becomes evident that these people are for real. Can you imagine the original Tea Party Patriots being called a "disruption"???????!!!!!!

Just My 2 Cents
 

From what is being said in the political threads just on this forum, looks like there would be plenty of UNPAID opposition if the town hall meetings were held here in TV.

Your list is interesting.

- I still don't know what "tort reform" is. What is hoped to be accomplished with giving limited/blanket immunity for damages to the medical profession? By private and CBO estimation, it won't reduce health care costs (as California and other states with damage caps have foun d out).
- Regarding Medicare, I agree.
- Healthcare for 100% of American citizens - we already have the US Public Health Service with hospitals, clinics and services all over the country. Is the issue more one of convenience to services, as we already have "national health care" being provided by the USPHS ?
- As long as a person shows up at an ER, no ER can refuse the person. This is really an issue of payment for ER service. As most of the non-citizens who seek American ER service are from countries receiving foreign aid for one reason or another, let's just reduce the foreign aid to that country $per$ for health care expenses to non-citizens.
- So, do folk get a USPHS Health Care Card on some means-tested or circumstance-tested criteria? The folk then get the medical services from USPHS Plan Participants (like what happens with private insurance now), or file claims with USPHS for payment? Will this generate a USPHS Supplement market?

Again, those "nasty details" again. We already have USPHS, so if there is such a clamor for all-folk access to health care controlled, managed and dispensed by the government, then why haven't ANY of the proposals built themselves on existing architecture? This "it's gotta be new and unique" is so illogical, especially when HHS (and USPHS) have management and delivery systems in place that are already tried and true. I guess it's just not sexy enough for politicians to build on what's already there, when they can instead show themselves as New Age Thinkers.

We spent a lot of money already for HHS and USPHS. I guess we're supposed to consider those moneys as down the sewer, and just start anew with borrowed money and more debt.

2 cents+
 

I have been to a Tea Party and I can tell you that these people are just regular folks who are concerned about our country and their futures. Nobody was paid amd most of our signs were homemade...mine included.

My point exactly.

Check out all of these scary mobs: (Warning..Pictures are frightening)

http://www.moonbattery.com/.

Another scary thought...
 

how would you like to have Nancy or Harry as your "65 & over counselor" (or someone picked by them)?