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Guest 08-09-2009 09:53 AM

Dissent was Patriotic
 
A good column by Professor Reynolds

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-52767517.html

Guest 08-09-2009 03:22 PM

So I signed up for the Obama information web site where he sends out his propaganda information. Then as I got them, I forwarded them to the "something fishy" web site saying: "I got this e-mail and this doesn't seem to contain accurate information about your proposals". Wonder how they like that.

Guest 08-09-2009 03:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 219376)
So I signed up for the Obama information web site where he sends out his propaganda information. Then as I got them, I forwarded them to the "something fishy" web site saying: "I got this e-mail and this doesn't seem to contain accurate information about your proposals". Wonder how they like that.

Be careful. You could end up with Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi at your doorstep. If that happens, don't forget to remind them to say, "Trick or treat!"

Guest 08-09-2009 03:29 PM

Question
 
How is the spy and report via e-mail different from the wire-tapping that they have harped on about being so evil? At least the wire-tapping was supposed to be only done on known international conversations. Seems like worse than a double-standard to me.

Guest 08-09-2009 04:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 219378)
How is the spy and report via e-mail different from the wire-tapping that they have harped on about being so evil? At least the wire-tapping was supposed to be only done on known international conversations. Seems like worse than a double-standard to me.

Perhaps the difference is that the Privacy Act of 1974 (5 USC 552a) has specific requirements regarding collection, processing, storage and dissemination of any information regarding the citizenry. None of the requirements of this law appear to have been followed. There are exceptions for law enforcement and intelligence-gathering purposes.

Does "disagreement with proposed health care legislation" qualify as a concern of law enforcement or the intelligence community? ? ?

Guest 08-09-2009 06:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 219381)
Does "disagreement with proposed health care legislation" qualify as a concern of law enforcement or the intelligence community? ? ?

I don't know by your question if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me on this one. I understand the first part of your answer, though. It just seems creepy that they can compile a list of dissenters, and especially the way they are going about it. Seems kinda like making a hit list (or maybe I just watch too many movies/TV, etc.) I just get the feeling that it is or is soon to be no longer ok to disagree publically with our government. That, my friend as I see it, is just one more freedom lost. Am I waaay out in left field on this one? Please explain....you seem to have a good grasp on most everything and I know that I don't. Thanks.

Guest 08-09-2009 07:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 219402)
I don't know by your question if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me on this one. I understand the first part of your answer, though. It just seems creepy that they can compile a list of dissenters, and especially the way they are going about it. Seems kinda like making a hit list (or maybe I just watch too many movies/TV, etc.) I just get the feeling that it is or is soon to be no longer ok to disagree publically with our government. That, my friend as I see it, is just one more freedom lost. Am I waaay out in left field on this one? Please explain....you seem to have a good grasp on most everything and I know that I don't. Thanks.

We all have a good grasp on what's going on, and darned few are happy with it.

My point was that the laws covering intelligence gathering and law enforcement activities provide a lot of leeway for the government to keep restricted how it goes about collection, processing, storage and dissemination of raw data and product. However, in most other circumstances, the government has to jump through a lot of hoops before collecting, processing, storing and disseminating ANY information on any American citizen or lawful permanent resident. In what's going on with "flag@whitehouse.gov" it sure seems like they tossed the Privacy Act of 1974 into the trashcan.

It would be interesting if a few million Americans filed Freedom of Information Act requests to the White House for information on the collection, processing, storage and dissemination of the "flag@whitehouse.gov" emails. By law, those requests (with the exception of information on named citizens and LPRs) must be honored.

Guest 08-09-2009 11:20 PM

Video
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78yuk...layer_embedded

Guest 08-10-2009 07:53 AM

The "flag@whitehouse.gov" is in the same category as
 
calling the police in Caimbridge, stupid. (that one went away quick!!).

We are a long, long way from not being able to speak against anything publicly....and especially the government.

The silent majority has, IMHO, way too many folks who really don't know their rights....or if they do they are the normal don't rock the boat crowd....or those who really believe what they see and hear in the media.
The tactics of the WH (I hate that generic reference), the administration (I hate this generic too!!), Obama (ahhh specifics), Pelosi Reid, et al are all intended to provoke fear and hence no action by those who need it the most.

The tactic is blatant, promises (lies), then denial, then threats, then saying or doing something stupid, then back to promises (more lies).....this applies to ALL/most for sure INCUMBENTS regardless of party affiliation.

Remember to consider issue first, individual second and discard party affiliation (a worn out, out dated, non value adding categorization).

btk

Guest 08-15-2009 02:11 PM

I am all for it
 
I am going right now to report something fishy............its the Obama spending habits


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