Funny how you take the statement out of context of the interview. Of course, how would you know, you haven't read the transcript yet. You are just as misinformed as your leaders, Pelosi and Reid that say you have to pass the bill before you can read it and know what's in it. You have no problem with their poisonous verbiage and slander, because you probably don't even pay attention. Your mind is still reminiscing about the good old days of Vietnam protests, also based on your ignorance. I bet your family is real proud of their loony senior family member, marching around the town square protesting against a working person. If you had read the transcript or listened to the interview that you use as an excuse to ostercise Coulter, you would notice (if not totally stupid) that the interviewer was baiting her, pushing her to give a heated and spontaneous response. His interview was boring and he was desperate to get it noticed. Kind of like getting assigned to reporting a story on a local garden show. But, being naive as you are, and not so religious as you claim (it's obvious) you jumped at a chance to relive old times, when tie dyed shirts, tabs of acid and free sex was your great rush. You must be very bored and unhappy. Too bad you haven't taken advantage of all the great activities available in the Villages.

That's the point, she's not "truly pro-Israel" at all. She just needed to protest something. The Villages doesn't offer her enough of an outlet for her old memories of protesting and fighting police lines during the Vietnam war. She admitted that, in the theme of her argument.

Nice response, but directed at the wrong person. Please re-read post 152.

You're right. I clicked on the wrong post when I went to respond. One shouldn't operate in a computer forum until one has first consumed two cups of java in the morning. I am sure the the post will still have the same effect.

I hope it does. Posts like that one reflect the "sound-bite" nature of the political scene---the totality of the message as a whole is ignored in favor of distorted little phrases that belie the truth.

PS---I only noticed after MY 2 cups of coffee:1rotfl:

I saw about 26-30 protesters, but liberals do like to be "liberal" with their numbers, and generous with other people's money, I might add.

Liberals tend to add a zero to their attendance at any liberal event. They subtract a zero from conservative crowds. Must be a tenant of common core math. Of course, all that fictitious body heat can be used to fuel their global warming argument

Hmm, I am "Jewish" so upon reading this thread, I was somewhat concerned upon hearing of Coulter's comment. Knowing that Ann is conservative and has always defended Israel in the past, I decided to examine the details a bit. There seems to be a bit of misconception of her interview statement. Although, I do not approve of her vulgar wording, I believe some one is using this as a political tool. I am not offended by her statement, other than the vulgar language.

I wonder if there would be any protest if she had said "How many F..ing Christians are there in America, anyway?" I have yet to see Democrats protest anything in support of Christian or "Jewish" principles. I wonder what the protest at the book store is really about. Reading this forum indicates to me that someone is using a false indignation and false morals to further a political agenda. And yes, I am a conservative so lets put that on the table and out of the way.

To the poster that I am responding to, did you ask your "Jewish" friends if they even knew anything about Coulter's comment before you gave them your version? And, do you REALLY have any "Jewish" friends?

Why dont you protest obama do something worth while.

No real point in it. He has never done anything worthwhile and he will never do anything worthwhile

Which post are you replying to?

Sorry, but I'm not familiar with this publication, but based on the way the article was written, I have to conclude that the writer is not a fan of Ms. Coulter.

After reading it, I have to ask, did the founders consider not allowing Catholics to become citizens? Was their concern that Catholics had an anti capitalist, socialistic bent? If those things are true, then what is wrong with her statement?

I am a conservative, but not a fan of Ann Coulter. I think that we can have reasonable discussion without all the name calling and antagonism. But it does seem that the gist of what she says in many cases is skewed by the way in which she says it.

In fact I don't agree with Bernie Sanders on much of anything except when he said this:

So can we stop shouting and making fun of each other?

Please stop the name calling and insults. We are all Americans and simply have disagreements on how our country should be run.

In the end, no one philosophy is going to rule. Everything will be a compromise. That is what Reagan and Clinton both understood.

The first one

Yes. See post # 160

In the past six years, I have yet to see a compromise where the only party that was satisfied was not solely the left. And they always get their way, and they call it compromise. If they don't get their way, then they become petulant children, like their false messiah in the White House.

Kind of hard not to have derision against protesters that are so ignorant and refuse to be informed or research a subject before spouting off about it. Did ANY of them even bother to read her book to see what it contained? How about the chapter in it that is Pro-Israel? Nope, didn't think so. I am willing to bet that half the protesters have no clue and the other half are protesting purely because they are radical left wingers that care less what she wrote, but that she supports the conservative right. They can't even have an intelligent conversation because they are ignorant. What an embarrassment to the Democrats in the Villages. What a bunch of idiots, that are not even willing to investigate what their radical leaders are doing to them. Blindly following. And shame on the Jews that supported the protest a person that is a better advocate for Israel than Obama. They should be protesting Debbie W. for her turning her back on the Jews when she supported Obama's Iran deal that will ultimately cause many Israeli Jews' lives.

Naughty boy ...you're trying to make it sound like you think Castro is a really bad guy etc when he's probably one of your secret Lefty heroes, along with that Che Guevara shirt you still have in your closet leftover from the 1960s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ym4Xt0T6fM

The reality is Rafael Cruz is about as anti commie as you can get ... you already know that but seem to enjoy your role as idiot provocateur.

The real reason you are upset by this is Rafael calls out Castro as being a forerunner to Obama, since Castro was the guy who originally used the term "hope and change"

Yes, that's the impression I got ... several people were asked by friends to protest "evil" Ann so they went. The irony is they don't know what true evil is (eg Iran's Ayatollah for one) and seem to be flummoxed about it.

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You can't see the forest for the trees... and I am no longer going to even try.

Did you ever consider that you might be wrong? You are, but did you ever consider it?

If the post was wrong, then correct it. If you can't, then step back and think about why you can't correct it. Maybe that poster is correct.

Funny, I was raised in a liberal household and was a child of the sixties. I consider myself to be about as liberal as one can be. That being said, I have never taken a dime from the government that I wasn't entitled to; I raised my daughter to be moral, ethical and to think for herself; I have worked hard most of my life; paid my taxes and bills. I've marched in a few protests -- Civil Rights and equal rights. According to folks here, I am at best naive and more than likely a freeloading fool and a total idiot. If I or my liberal friends were to say half the things about TV conservatives that you seem to think is perfectly acceptable here, we'd be sued for libel and slander and rightfully so.

I don't like Ann Coulter. Never have, never will. She's a mean-spirited hack to my way of thinking. I wouldn't waste my time protesting what she says or writes. There are more important issues in this world today.

I certainly don't agree with everything Obama has done or even tried to do but there have been some real accomplishments. I'm not thrilled with the latest Iran agreement and my gut feeling is that it will ultimately be changed. At least I hope it will.

I'm not a Hillary fan. As a matter of fact, I can safely I don't like anyone on either side. This election is looking to be a royal disaster.

I do believe in the Black Lives Matter campaign. Some police practices do need to change. People should be. Treated equally. Until they are, police are going to be viewed with distrust and young men are going to needlessly die.

ISIS scares me. Muslims do not. I flinch when I hear anyone spew hatred whether a Fundamentalist, a Neo Nazi, an Islamic extremist and even some of the posters here.

But why all the stereotyping of liberals? Why the constant name calling? Does it really help get your point across? Why insult someone just because they have differing views? Do you really think it makes you or your cause sound better or morally right? I don't get it.

Red

Its not about the poster....its about fatigue.

I know what my positions are, I admit to being to the left of most people on this site. On some issues I lean right on others left, I vote for Democrat's and on occasion Republican's. Social issues, left...financial issues, lean right...immigration hard right.

I love discussing politics but in a civil manner, I used to be able to do that here but things have changed. Anybody with just a hint of left slammed with the left "insult".

Yes I went to the protest yesterday because Ann Coulter made an anti-semitic remark....flat out anti-semitic. And that I cannot abide.... I have seen the ovens.
Its NOT a political issue to me....not everything should be political.

In my childhood I was subject to religious intolerance, something that sticks with me to this day. Christians were not very nice to Catholics when I was growing up.

I am not a lefty but you all have to label me.... I am tired.
I am tired of the name calling.

Just because I have different positions than some of you doesn't make me stupid, ignorant, a moron or any other insult you can hurl at me.

I have Talk of the Villages fatigue which I fear is fatal. Shot 89 on Glenview this am I think I will spend more time on my golf game.

But if someone ever wants to just talk politics over the cold one of your choice that might be fun.

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I have Talk of the Villages fatigue.....

Instead of leaving the discussion, how about if you give us five examples of people or organizations, anywhere in the world, that you deem as genuinely evil, and a potential threat to our collective well being.

Maybe we can begin to agree on something but would like to see your list first

I have never taken a dime from the government that I wasn't entitled to Key term of a liberal = "that I wasn't entitled to

If I or my liberal friends were to say half the things about TV conservatives that you seem to think is perfectly acceptable here,
Apparently, you haven't been following the political forum at all. One of the liberal favorites is that vulgar term used to describe all conservatives "tea ******." And there are others. And these are not in response to any conservative poster name calling. So, your indignant attitude doesn't ring true.

"I wouldn't waste my time protesting what she says or writes" So, you weren't one of the protesters at B&N yesterday?

"I do believe in the Black Lives Matter campaign." Then you every bit as naive as has been suggested. Because they are a radical group of malcontents that only serve to cause dissension, lead by paid agitators. Police have a hard enough job as it is, without false accusations of brutality. The protests all stem from defending thugs and criminals that deserve to be put down. The only reason their families care is they know they can extort large amounts of money. Most of them probably were relieved that their family member was out of their hair.

Yes, now that you explained it all in the form of a persecuted victim, I have to agree with the poster that said you were "naive." But, you are not by yourself, look at how many folks voted for Obama, and will probably double down on dumb by voting for Hilary.....if she isn't in jail by then.

If you weren't protesting at B&N, why are you on here complaining about being the victim?

We might agree on a lot except for the Black Lives Matter movement. I also agree that police need to be diligent and fair, except I believe it should apply to ALL skin colors.

Where we disagree the most is your comment, in which you imply that name calling does not exist from the left.

I tell you, and while I do not anymore, I used to check.....most, I am talking 75/80 % of barbs AT liberals are a response from a liberal who

Prefaced it with "teabaging" and then followed with "racist" and/or "bigot". Another favorite suffix is "fagot"

That is the favorite, although not restricted to that, followed many times by a challenge of some sort.

I point no fingers at you, but those you defend do not deserve it. That group, and they are liberals have driven many many folks off this board, and they take great pride in that.

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1. yes, I've taken money from the government. Bet you have, too. I've received. Tax refunds, unemployment and even some money from a victims' relief fund. Next year I'll probably start collecting Social Security. These are all monies to which I was or will be entitled. How about you?

2. Yeah, I've seen some of the Tea Party name calling and I don't like it, either. Regardless, the vast majority who post here are conservatives and Republicans, so my issue is with them since I am a liberal, have been painted with a very broad brush and I have yet to resort to calling anyone here a name. Thought it a couple of times, but haven't said it.

3. I really don't care who started the Black Lives Matters movement. What does matter to me and should to you is the simple fact that young men of color are more likely to be stopped by police when they have done nothing wrong or, at the most, committed a minor infraction for which a young, white male would not be stopped. Justice, including those who work for the police department, should be colorblind. If you wouldn't stop someone white for doing whatever, you shouldn't stop someone black for the same thing. There is something terribly wrong when a father has to sit down and tell his son how to act when stopped by a police officer because the father is afraid his son will be killed if he acts like a normal kid. I never had to tell my daughter how to behave other than the very basic be respectful and polite. Did you? Ask a black man the instructions he feels he has to give his son, how often he has been stopped for no reason other than for being black in a white neighborhood. And even someone who has committed a crime deserves better than dying while at the mercy of the police. So, yes, I do believe in BLM and will continue to do so. It is more than a way to get money. Monetary damages may help get the message across that a certain behavior is intolerable but it certainly doesn't pay for the loss of a child.

And, no, I wasn't at the protest. I did some work in the morning, played bridge with my favorite partner in the afternoon, shed some tears at the end of the Honor Flight ceremony at Colony, enjoyed a lovely evening with friends.

Red

Couple of responses to your post ..

Regarding your support of Black Lives Matter ... have you seen the various videos where BLM supporters are marching through the streets chanting death to cops (actually more vulgar than that)?? Do you "support" that ...ie the call for killing cops? Don't you find a implied if not obvious connection that, in the wake of BLM, a number of cops were in fact killed across the country??

Do you "support" BLM storming the stage and shutting down the comments of Bernie, O'Malley and others? Do you think that crime is "random" across all areas or highly concentrated in black areas which just might have something to do why the get more police attention. BLM is nothing more than another hard left, revolutionary group. I'm sure it has ties to radical groups across the country and would love for it to be investigated but so far no one in Congress has the courage to do the obvious.

The stereotyping is self induced because, in many cases, liberals seem to support some genuinely looney (by common sense standards at least) positions. In the past, it was impolite to call it out. But, after a while, it becomes a target rich environment pretty much impossible to ignore. It's also destroying the country which is what makes it serious. I could go through the examples but I don't have the time right now.

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The primary problem is there are not that many fathers left any more in the black community, thanks to a destructive welfare state. Thus, no one is getting the advice or instructions in the first place.

The reason police tend to be more wary of young black kids vs young white kids is resoundingly simple ... the black kids tend to be more violent and commit more crimes. We can argue about why that is, but it is a fact. Do you want to dispute that?

BLM is not a solution to anything when you think about it ... except it does tend to make white liberals who generally live in safety/comfort feel better about themselves. Just my opinion ...

I totally respect that you do not care what philosophy is behind the Black Lives Matter Movement.

I do, however, and feel our country is being over run with socialism, communism and marxist ideas.

This movement was started by one Alicia Garza, who is a community organizer and when she began the movement she was acting Special Projects Director for the National Domestic Workers Alliance whose members are nannies, housekeepers, caregivers and other domestic workers.

Her inspiration comes from the Black Liberation Army which was the entity once called the Black Panthers. She is inspired by the words of Assata Shakur who killed a New Jersey State Trooper and is in exile in Cuba, a country who has accepted her and whom she loves and has proclaimed it as "One of the Largest, Most Resistant and Most Courageous Palenques (Maroon Camps) that has ever existed on the Face of this Planet."

She has been involved in extortion, robbery and murder.

This, to me, is not the basis for any kind of positive movement in our country. She has proclaimed for years her hatred for police and of course offers no sympathy for the execution of police officers in our country.

If those words do not give you a chill of fear, then maybe I am the one who is out of touch.

I am a conservative, but not one who wants us to go back to the fifties. Not one who wants anyone of any color to be abused by police. Not one who is blind to many injustices in our country. Not a bigot and not a racist. I actually marched with MLK in Philadelphia during a short visit he made there and believe in my heart of hearts he would be out raged at what is being done in the name of justice.

I do not see any of this as justice. I see it as a marxist take over of our streets and is simply the first step to a war internal in this country,not predicated on seeking justice but predicated on hate and nothing else.

These people do not get my respect in anyway shape or form. You may feel that they are wonderful folks but they are using and fueling hate in this country.

The federal government has investigated any shootings involved and when and if they find reason, there is justice served.

Interesting, if you bother to read a little on this subject that you support so strongly, you will find that the drowning out of the blacks kill blacks cry that many have tried but get drowned out...those people are accurate.

I will leave you a link that I think is simple and clear, although based on your comments, I doubt you will read it, nor will many progressives....

"But Hubbard has plenty of misses. I don't understand why we can't talk about black-on-black crime and police brutality at the same time. Why do we have to treat the two issues separately? It's like saying that if blacks stopped killing blacks tomorrow then police brutality will suddenly stop. We know that's not the case."

James E. Causey - A critic of Black Lives Matter simplifies a complex problem

NO....I will not idolize these people that you idolize. The Democrat party is in the process of being taken over by a socialist, marxist movement. We know they always fail, and we know they always entail bloodshed and killing and we know that countries involved never come back, so NO....I will not idolize these people, not will I be silent about a progressive movement that, in my opinion, has been hijacked by these groups.

I said in an earlier post that I could agree with you on many things.

I take that back. If this kind of movement is supported by you, then we could agree on nothing. We are a country of law and the law works. Let us give voice to the law and the law being administered justly. Lets remember that all the heroes being made by police killings were either criminals in the past or in the commission of a crime.

I am unable to support the people or movement that you support.

These are links to Wiki on some of my comments but more available. I recall in 2008 hearing how the Black Panthers were not good but not to worry, they \have no involvement in Democratic party politics and now I hear how they are in fact supported but with different names.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Garza

And I would be curious to hear what you respect about all these groups and what makes them so attractive ?

Let's face it, they can dish it out but suddenly become the victims when out numbered. They come on here and act like conservatives are the bad guys, but they sure call on them when they get their butts in a jam. They call the police, the military or suddenly get religion and call the preacher after claiming that the Bible is a myth. I'm not falling for it.

This is an EXCELLENT post ... you provide the information people need to make a rational judgment about BLM..

An earlier poster asked why all the name calling etc? Well, liberals' professing support for BLM is an excellent example of why most rational people with common sense literally deem liberalism as some type of mentally deficient thinking. It's not name calling but rather clinically correct. If the looniness did not have such a hugely negative impact on the country it could simply be laughed at. No more of that .. it needs to be fought in the realm of ideas and debate. Ridicule is part of that when it fits.

Think about it ... the leader of BLM is a committed revolutionary Marxist. Or call her something more precise but she is literally hostile to the country as currently constituted--which is no doubt one of many reasons she would love to overthrow it by force if she could. I believe Garza's type, throughout history, tend to send their enemies to the gallows, or the guillotine. Many lawless personalities that appear throughout history. Our Founders set up a system of constitutional law for a lot of reaons, one of which is to protect us from people like Garza ever gaining power.

So, while I don't think the earlier poster (self identified as Red) is in anyway a "bad' person but rather no doubt very nice in person, I do think she must be somewhere between naïve or blind to reality such that she can publicly proclaim her support for BLM.

I would really like to hear her (or any other liberal) give us a rationale for supporting a group with the background of BLM. If one is offered, I'm sure it will be an emotionally uplifting call for justice etc, but it will not be one grounded in the reality of our imperfect world. But, I will certainly be wiling to listen to the case.

BLM will not do a d*** thing to help the lot of the average fatherless kid abandoned by the democrat social welfare system in the ghetto, devoid of any Judeo-Christian teachings or disciplines that might enable them to have a successful life.

In short, as but one illustration of the loony liberal mindset, BLM is another liberal "good intentions" nail in the coffin of the average black youth in 21st century America. If you look at the RESULTS, not the good intentions, it's actually racist as h***.

Sorry, I can't sympathize with a political culture that is determined to destroy the America I know in favor of a socialist ideology that I fought a war to prevent. I've lived overseas in socialist countries and do not see anything in their ideology that I would want for America. Unfortunately, we have so many spoiled Americans that have never done or seen anything outside of their subsidized or government controlled environment and now think that they can't live without the gov sugar daddy.

I did protest at Barnes and Noble......

Curious, what war were you in? Vietnam was a civil conflict that the US had no business in the first place; Korean Conflict was a civil conflict; WWII was not about socialist ideals - in fact Russia and the US were on the same side.

Think about your Medicare and Medicaid. Definitely Socialist ideas but you use them, I bet. Social Security is another you use, I bet.

Are you for having no Social Security, Medicare, or any old age safety nets whatsoever?