Originally Posted by Guest

Unless the Repub's come up with something that so far, they have shown absolutely no desire/ability to do, that is much better than the ACA...there will be a HUGE price to pay at the polls in the near future.

I can see easily see them breaking healthcare and owning it, resulting in a Super Majority of Dem's in 4 years and by then...the public will be screaming for single-payer.

Just remember...you read it here first.

Keep dreaming, but the Dems blew it by creating a
monster that was doomed from the beginning.
And they did it all by themselves!

Originally Posted by Guest

Unless the Repub's come up with something that so far, they have shown absolutely no desire/ability to do, that is much better than the ACA...there will be a HUGE price to pay at the polls in the near future.

I can see easily see them breaking healthcare and owning it, resulting in a Super Majority of Dem's in 4 years and by then...the public will be screaming for single-payer.

Just remember...you read it here first.

Just repealing it will be fine with me. Do a reset and give us the freedom make our own decisions without the gov mandating that we purchase their product, which is B.S.

More people are refusing medical care due to the expensive and outrageously high deductibles. Obamacare is causing a lot of people to die because they cannot afford the first several thousand bucks required before the insurance takes over their costs.

Originally Posted by Guest

More people are refusing medical care due to the expensive and outrageously high deductibles. Obamacare is causing a lot of people to die because they cannot afford the first several thousand bucks required before the insurance takes over their costs.

And there ladies and gentleman is the truthful post of the year!!

Originally Posted by Guest

More people are refusing medical care due to the expensive and outrageously high deductibles. Obamacare is causing a lot of people to die because they cannot afford the first several thousand bucks required before the insurance takes over their costs.

That makes no sense. If people are purchasing the plans but not using them then the insurance company profits sky rocket. I'll offer you a more reasonable explanation. Healthy people are not buying the plans and electing to pay the tax penalty which is significantly less than the price of the policy. Now if you want to fix this make the penalty equal to the price of the policy or refuse health care to anyone that does not have it.

A couple of points. Healthcare is already broken as it is on a non-sustainable trajectory. The dems did not have the stomach to take the steps to control costs in obamacare. The public, in general, has no idea what a single payer system is so there can be "no screaming for a single-payer system". Regardless, the dems did not have the stomach or the votes for a single payer system when obamacare was passed. They also would never cave into the lobbying against a single-payer system - you can forget about that.

Originally Posted by Guest

Unless the Repub's come up with something that so far, they have shown absolutely no desire/ability to do, that is much better than the ACA...there will be a HUGE price to pay at the polls in the near future.

I can see easily see them breaking healthcare and owning it, resulting in a Super Majority of Dem's in 4 years and by then...the public will be screaming for single-payer.

Just remember...you read it here first.

Just repeal it and brainstorm it later. We need a reset from the last 8 years, period.

Originally Posted by Guest

The senate voted 51-48 last night in favor of repealing Obamacare. The only thing required now is Trump's signature on Jan 20.

Has anyone who has a pre-existing condition with private insurance gotten their cancellation notice yet?

Now seniors can look forward to going back to the doughnut hole when buying prescription drugs. Secretary Burwell said recently on Morning Joe that seniors had saved six billion dollars on prescription drugs since Obamacare was passed. Say bye-bye to that savings.

THE FACTS-
We do not deny medical care to ANYONE.
The people who need insurance are those who have property-wealth-to loose.

If, you are in the hospital and get an aspirin the bill for that pill will be about $20. You scream. The hospital is a business they need to make enough to pay staff and to pay rent and for equipment. That $20 that you were billed for an aspirin worth pennies, pays for all the people that do not pay,

I spent 5 days, two years ago, in THE VILLAGES HOSPITAL the bill was 50,000. I had AETNA insurance and they paid 20,000 covering the bill in full. We were thinking about SELF INSURING until we were old enough for medicare.
HAD WE CHOSEN TO DO THAT THE HOSPITAL WOULD HAVE WANTED 50,000 FROM US. THAT IS WHY YOU MUST PAY FOR INSURANCE-IT IS ESSENTIALLY A BUYING GROUP.

THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS BROKEN. If, you ask about cost
THE PRICE-you get a dirty look. If, you ask about RESULTS all that information is HIDDEN. There is nothing else that we buy where people do not ask the price and you cannot research results. Do you need any further explanation for what is wrong with our medical system and why we spend TWICE as much on medical care as other industrialized countries AND OUR LIFE EXPECTANCY-results-ARE ABOUT THE SAME.

Originally Posted by Guest

THE FACTS-
We do not deny medical care to ANYONE.

That is NOT a FACT...it is an OUTRIGHT LIE.

By law, EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE (to stabilize the patient) has to be provided to ANYONE....NOT 'MEDICAL CARE' in general.

Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA)

In 1986, Congress enacted the Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) to ensure public access to emergency services regardless of ability to pay.

Section 1867 of the Social Security Act imposes specific obligations on Medicare-participating hospitals that offer emergency services to provide a medical screening examination (MSE) when a request is made for examination or treatment for an emergency medical condition (EMC), including active labor, regardless of an individual's ability to pay.

Hospitals are then required to provide stabilizing treatment for patients with EMCs.

If a hospital is unable to stabilize a patient within its capability, or if the patient requests, an appropriate transfer should be implemented.

Wanna try again?

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

That is NOT a FACT...it is an OUTRIGHT LIE.

By law, EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE (to stabilize the patient) has to be provided to ANYONE....NOT 'MEDICAL CARE' in general.

Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services



Wanna try again?

There she goes again twisting the words to stop the bullying...
(unt thinks they should perform preventive medical treatment to all the nut jobs! Aka Jan would be over there every other day asking for another Colonoscopy and the wackadoodle would be over there complaining his legs were sore from walking back and forth between his mom's fridge and the computer...yeah I hate to think how they are going to survive...

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Originally Posted by DirtBag

There she goes again twisting the words to stop the bullying...
(unt thinks they should perform preventive medical treatment to all the nut jobs! Aka Jan would be over there every other day asking for another Colonoscopy and the wackadoodle would be over there complaining his legs were sore from walking back and forth between his mom's fridge and the computer...yeah I hate to think how they are going to survive...

Although it's been evident for a while now, by your dependence on vulgar language and a limited vocabulary...you're not all that bright are you?

Which I guess is a good thing in one way, given that it allows me more room to stretch out...while living in your head rent free.

I listened in, briefly, to Bernie Sanders and his questioning. All this stuff he is proposing for free, is to be paid for how?

Originally Posted by dillywho

I listened in, briefly, to Bernie Sanders and his questioning. All this stuff he is proposing for free, is to be paid for how?

He wants to tax those Rich bastards that get up early in the morning and work hard till late in the day! Come to think of it that will help unemployment too. Those Rich bastards been taken away hours other people could be working...

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Originally Posted by Guest

He wants to tax those Rich bastards that get up early in the morning and work hard till late in the day! Come to think of it that will help unemployment too. Those Rich bastards been taken away hours other people could be working...

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That wasn't what he said, though. He said everyone should have free healthcare. Sorry, but when he says everyone that means even those "rich bastards". I didn't hear a qualifier during the time I was listening. (Couldn't watch much because we had to engage in our major activity here.....doctor appointment.)

Originally Posted by Guest

That wasn't what he said, though. He said everyone should have free healthcare. Sorry, but when he says everyone that means even those "rich bastards". I didn't hear a qualifier during the time I was listening. (Couldn't watch much because we had to engage in our major activity here.....doctor appointment.)

Bernie is a Socialist. What would you expect him to say? Of course, he wants to have the gov control everything, because he IS the government and that would make him important, relevant.