Originally Posted by ilovetv

Maybe you'll ask Obama if Sasha and Malia will be signing up for ROTC in about 4-5 years.

President Obama gets us out of wars. Gov Romney is all for a war with Iran.

I can't wait to bring my Obama 2012 sign!

Originally Posted by janmcn

President Obama gets us out of wars. Gov Romney is all for a war with Iran.

As always you forget FACTS....


"In an exclusive analysis, The Daily Beast combed through a decade of military deployment history, and found only a faint line between the Bush and Obama presidencies. The number of American troops abroad has dropped less than 1 percent under President Obama, buoyed by what appears to be a sharp rise in the number of clandestine assignments, and curious growth in the number of personnel at Guantanamo Bay. None of the robust deployment trends begun under Bush have significantly abated. And since World War II, only President Bush has scattered a greater proportion of American might overseas: 39.5, 42.8, and 39.1 percent of American troops were abroad between 2006 and 2008, compared to Obama’s 39.3 percent in 2009 and 38.2 percent as of December 2010, the most recent date for which worldwide data is available.* Even with an aggressive—or, to some minds, reckless—drawdown in the Middle East and Southeast Asia, it would take nearly another 300,000 reassignments to domestic duty before the military was as united at home as it was on September 10, 2001."

I am not sure why you continue to say things that are patently NOT TRUE but you do. I suppose you get some vicarious thrill from it, as with 12 year olds just lying to see if they can get away with it.

Have an opinion BUT PLEASE USE FACTS when presenting how you feel.

"After two years at the helm of U.S. foreign policy, President Obama has called home fewer than 1 percent of American soldiers."

President Obama, President Bush, and the March of U.S. Soldiers Abroad: Where They Are and Why - The Daily Beast

Originally Posted by Bucco

As always you forget FACTS....


"In an exclusive analysis, The Daily Beast combed through a decade of military deployment history, and found only a faint line between the Bush and Obama presidencies. The number of American troops abroad has dropped less than 1 percent under President Obama, buoyed by what appears to be a sharp rise in the number of clandestine assignments, and curious growth in the number of personnel at Guantanamo Bay. None of the robust deployment trends begun under Bush have significantly abated. And since World War II, only President Bush has scattered a greater proportion of American might overseas: 39.5, 42.8, and 39.1 percent of American troops were abroad between 2006 and 2008, compared to Obama’s 39.3 percent in 2009 and 38.2 percent as of December 2010, the most recent date for which worldwide data is available.* Even with an aggressive—or, to some minds, reckless—drawdown in the Middle East and Southeast Asia, it would take nearly another 300,000 reassignments to domestic duty before the military was as united at home as it was on September 10, 2001."

I am not sure why you continue to say things that are patently NOT TRUE but you do. I suppose you get some vicarious thrill from it, as with 12 year olds just lying to see if they can get away with it.

Have an opinion BUT PLEASE USE FACTS when presenting how you feel.

"After two years at the helm of U.S. foreign policy, President Obama has called home fewer than 1 percent of American soldiers."

President Obama, President Bush, and the March of U.S. Soldiers Abroad: Where They Are and Why - The Daily Beast

You're using facts that contradict the "liberal's narrative". What a buzz kill you are Bucco.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

You're using facts that contradict the "liberal's narrative". What a buzz kill you are Bucco.

Used to be Rich that when you posted something on a forum, you sort of had a requirement to validate what you say. Now you can accuse, libel, slander...truth be damned.

And then wonder why we have what we have in Washington. Washington is a reflection of what we have become...truth, decorum, facts mean nothing

I saw on TV that the war in Iraq has ended while President Obama was commander-in-chief. I also saw on TV that there is a big welcome home the troops parade tomorrow at noon in St Louis. I also remember hearing Obama call the Iraq war a "dumb war" as early as 2004, before he was a US Senator. I am not wasting my time looking up links to this info; you are smart guys and can find it.

I also saw on TV the last US troops leaving Iraq, but this thread is entitled "Romney to come to The Villages on Monday".

Originally Posted by Bucco

As always you forget FACTS....


"In an exclusive analysis, The Daily Beast combed through a decade of military deployment history, and found only a faint line between the Bush and Obama presidencies. The number of American troops abroad has dropped less than 1 percent under President Obama, buoyed by what appears to be a sharp rise in the number of clandestine assignments, and curious growth in the number of personnel at Guantanamo Bay. None of the robust deployment trends begun under Bush have significantly abated. And since World War II, only President Bush has scattered a greater proportion of American might overseas: 39.5, 42.8, and 39.1 percent of American troops were abroad between 2006 and 2008, compared to Obama’s 39.3 percent in 2009 and 38.2 percent as of December 2010, the most recent date for which worldwide data is available.* Even with an aggressive—or, to some minds, reckless—drawdown in the Middle East and Southeast Asia, it would take nearly another 300,000 reassignments to domestic duty before the military was as united at home as it was on September 10, 2001."

I am not sure why you continue to say things that are patently NOT TRUE but you do. I suppose you get some vicarious thrill from it, as with 12 year olds just lying to see if they can get away with it.

Have an opinion BUT PLEASE USE FACTS when presenting how you feel.

"After two years at the helm of U.S. foreign policy, President Obama has called home fewer than 1 percent of American soldiers."

President Obama, President Bush, and the March of U.S. Soldiers Abroad: Where They Are and Why - The Daily Beast

LOL - so now, The Daily Beast is what passes for facts now? Is that ALL the time, or only for today?

Originally Posted by janmcn

President Obama gets us out of wars. Gov Romney is all for a war with Iran.

I never professed to say anything about the number of troops deployed. All I said was President Obama gets us out of wars. Gov Romney is all for a war with Iran.

Originally Posted by Bucco

As always you forget FACTS....


"In an exclusive analysis, The Daily Beast combed through a decade of military deployment history, and found only a faint line between the Bush and Obama presidencies. The number of American troops abroad has dropped less than 1 percent under President Obama, buoyed by what appears to be a sharp rise in the number of clandestine assignments, and curious growth in the number of personnel at Guantanamo Bay. None of the robust deployment trends begun under Bush have significantly abated. And since World War II, only President Bush has scattered a greater proportion of American might overseas: 39.5, 42.8, and 39.1 percent of American troops were abroad between 2006 and 2008, compared to Obama’s 39.3 percent in 2009 and 38.2 percent as of December 2010, the most recent date for which worldwide data is available.* Even with an aggressive—or, to some minds, reckless—drawdown in the Middle East and Southeast Asia, it would take nearly another 300,000 reassignments to domestic duty before the military was as united at home as it was on September 10, 2001."

I am not sure why you continue to say things that are patently NOT TRUE but you do. I suppose you get some vicarious thrill from it, as with 12 year olds just lying to see if they can get away with it.

Have an opinion BUT PLEASE USE FACTS when presenting how you feel.

"After two years at the helm of U.S. foreign policy, President Obama has called home fewer than 1 percent of American soldiers."

President Obama, President Bush, and the March of U.S. Soldiers Abroad: Where They Are and Why - The Daily Beast

"Facts" can be a rather elusive concept. Facts can often be presented to support both sides of an argument. They can be manipulated, interpreted, and twisted to be whatever the presenter wants them to be. Many of you are so fond of your links, but they rarely produce anything other than some writer or bloggers opinion, supported by questionable facts, studies, and statistics. For example, global warming is real - Surveyed scientists agree global warming is real - CNN.com No it's not - 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' Summarised

If you think you are doing important work and bringing enlightenment to the masses by posting on a message board, you are delusional. Share your opinion if you like, post your "facts" if you must, but you are not likely changing a single heart or mind, just playing to your like-minded friends and colleagues.

Originally Posted by janmcn

I never professed to say anything about the number of troops deployed. All I said was President Obama gets us out of wars. Gov Romney is all for a war with Iran.

What can I really say to that nonsence. The stated position of the Obama Administrtion is that they are taking nothing off the table in relation to their preventing Iran from building a nuclear warhead. I don't see the position of a Romney Administion being any different.
This country will rue the day that we failed to support the protest in Iran after their crooked election. History will look unkindly at President Obama for failing to act in any way, even by moral support.

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

"Facts" can be a rather elusive concept. Facts can often be presented to support both sides of an argument. They can be manipulated, interpreted, and twisted to be whatever the presenter wants them to be. Many of you are so fond of your links, but they rarely produce anything other than some writer or bloggers opinion, supported by questionable facts, studies, and statistics. For example, global warming is real - Surveyed scientists agree global warming is real - CNN.com No it's not - 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' Summarised

If you think you are doing important work and bringing enlightenment to the masses by posting on a message board, you are delusional. Share your opinion if you like, post your "facts" if you must, but you are not likely changing a single heart or mind, just playing to your like-minded friends and colleagues.

I suppose in some ways you are totally correct. Those who slam the source have that right...I dont use internet sites that much but if anyone read the article it was based on a study by The Defense Manpower Data Center and I can find no reason to debunk them.

It also validates what I know....ie this President, while lambasting our past President has continues most, if not all, of his policies in this area. Secondly, some one mentions Iraq and should be reminded that while President Obama is holding the office, the timeline used was developed by and published by the previous President.

I just want to add that I supply links most times because I think it is incumbent on someone who makes a claim to post a validation of how they arrived at that conclusion. Different from voicing your opinion but if you say something about somebody and it is based on facts, you should post where others can find those facts.

I might also add that it is not my intention to change anybodys mind. I have used this forum to LEARN by reading links...by LISTENING to others opinions, etc. Lately however, it is simply people making fun of anyone who disagrees with them instead of discussing the substance of WHY they dont agree. It can, despite your negativity, have an impact on your thinking. We have for example a regular poster with whom I disagree A LOT however he has a base of knowledge in finance that I do not possess thus I have learned much from his posts, all of which I research to validate, and have had my opinion swayed. I guess it depends on your motivation for being here.

Romney is visiting LSL, and now Newt is planning to visit the parking lot at the bookstore.

Waste of time for any of the GOP comics to go anywhere.

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Romney is visiting LSL, and now Newt is planning to visit the parking lot at the bookstore.

Is this true? If so, when?