Makes one wonder who the real racists are...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._lynching.html

There's been a media blitz against Herman Cain and nobody know what it's really about. He did what? To who? with what proof?

Guilty until proven innocent? I guess if you have the cajones to dare to be a black conservative, you've got to expect this. The liberal establishment must put this black man in his place if he's going to be so uppity.

Ted Kennedy can abandon a girl to die a horrible death in his sinking car, and he's a hero.

Bill Clinton can be accused of sexual battery and even rape, and it's no big deal.

But, the unsubstantiated claim of "inappropriate behavior" against a black conservative; well that calls for a "high tech" lynching.

Here, we see it stated so well:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egTyaIAaqz8[/ame]

You all know very well if the shoe was on the other foot and President Obama had been accused of sexual harrasment that all of you uberconservatives would be up in arms demanding impeachment before any real shred of evidence had been produced. Race has nothing to do with your yelps - it is because it is happening to one of your own party.

Just a little more of sauce for the gander.

Clarence Thomas was and still is a jerk. Just ask Anita Hill.

ha ha ha.... BOO HOO HOO . . .

Katz and Ritchie... I find it incredibly humorous that you pull out the race card so quickly when "your" candidate is scrutinized.

Of course, you know that there's a very high likelihood that the allegations are factual.

You should go back and read some of your own posts, where you accuse liberals of doing exactly the same thing...

Just saying . . .

Originally Posted by memason

ha ha ha.... BOO HOO HOO . . .

Katz and Ritchie... I find it incredibly humorous that you pull out the race card so quickly when "your" candidate is scrutinized.

Of course, you know that there's a very high likelihood that the allegations are factual.

You should go back and read some of your own posts, where you accuse liberals of doing exactly the same thing...

Just saying . . .

Exactly....

Originally Posted by memason

ha ha ha.... BOO HOO HOO . . .

Katz and Ritchie... I find it incredibly humorous that you pull out the race card so quickly when "your" candidate is scrutinized.

Of course, you know that there's a very high likelihood that the allegations are factual.

You should go back and read some of your own posts, where you accuse liberals of doing exactly the same thing...

Just saying . . .

The difference being that it is me and Katz. We're just 2 people noticing the bias of the liberal media.

(You really don't realize that my pointing out the race of Herman Cain is only to mock you liberals who point out Obama's race at ever opportunity?. Look up the definition of the word "mock")

The entire liberal establishment media against one black conservative with allegations that no one knows about. Hundreds of stories published about it in just a few number of days.

On the other hand you have Katz and I on this inconsequential political forum buried in the TOTV open forum, that you have to subscribe to in order to read.

OH!; it's exactly the same thing.

Karl Marx advocated "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Obama advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Socialism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Communism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

So tell me, how do the liberals on this board and in this thread feel about "redistribution of wealth and class warfare?"

Does the loyal opposition draw a "bright line" somewhere on the path to the left and short of totalitarian dictatorship? If so, where?

Originally Posted by RichieLion

The difference being that it is me and Katz. We're just 2 people noticing the bias of the liberal media.

(You really don't realize that my pointing out the race of Herman Cain is only to mock you liberals who point out Obama's race at ever opportunity?. Look up the definition of the word "mock")

The entire liberal establishment media against one black conservative with allegations that no one knows about. Hundreds of stories published about it in just a few number of days.

On the other hand you have Katz and I on this inconsequential political forum buried in the TOTV open forum, that you have to subscribe to in order to read.

OH!; it's exactly the same thing.

You're joking, right???? I don't believe your post has anything to do with "mocking" anyone.... You said what you thought...

it is what it is....

It's really strange: Those of us on the right were said to be racists for being against Obama. Furthermore, the left called the Tea Party a racist group. But now the left is dogging Herman Cain and they expect to be immune from being called racists.

I don't mean to be unfair; am I missing something?

Originally Posted by memason

ha ha ha.... BOO HOO HOO . . .

Katz and Ritchie... I find it incredibly humorous that you pull out the race card so quickly when "your" candidate is scrutinized.

Of course, you know that there's a very high likelihood that the allegations are factual.

You should go back and read some of your own posts, where you accuse liberals of doing exactly the same thing...

Just saying . . .

The point is not that the attacks on Herman Cain are "racism" as in prejudice or outright attack against him because of race or skin color.

It's "racism" in the form of demanding that all prominent/promising black candidates submit to the Plantation of Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, and SHEILA JACKSON LEE...(OMG....could anyone be any more racist than she????)

Originally Posted by Villages PL

It's really strange: Those of us on the right were said to be racists for being against Obama. Furthermore, they called the Tea Party a racist group. But now the left is dogging Herman Cain and they expect to be immune from being called racists.

I don't mean to be unfair; am I missing something?

No, you an't missing anything. Don't ya know that only republicans are racists? There are no democrats racists, only hipocrits.

I am interested in the Herman Cain accusations not for any political reason, but just out of a sense of fairness. Regardless of what situation the current accusations would arise in, whether it was a presidential campaign or just a friend of mine who was being talked about in this way, I would feel the same way.

I am not an expert in sexual harrassment law, but it deals with a very wide range of behavior, and I feel that without knowing any specific facts about what Mr. Cain was even accused to have done, it is wrong to speculate or to draw any inference that would reflect on his ability to be president (or on his character in any other setting). I also think that the fact that a settlement was made by the National Restaurant Association is totally irrelevant, since legal claims of many kinds are often settled, both those with merit and those without merit.

For example, gender discrimination is one area of sexual harrassment/discrimination. It may be conduct that is completely non-sexual but that is perceived as being directed at someone because of their sex. Examples of discriminatory comments and behaviors may include something as innocent in intention as an employer asking whether an employee is married or plans on having children. (Such conversation may in fact be merely motivated as friendliness in the work place, but yet could potentially still give rise to a sex discrimination claim). As this area of law has evolved over the last several decades, it leaves a wide range of conduct open to interpretation; conduct that may be intended as nothing more than genuine friendliness; and has lead to a mine field for persons in authority in any employment setting. What people may intend as genuine kidding (and yes, perhaps in a moment of mental lapse - which one of us has never had this happen?), or purely innocuous conduct in the intention of simply getting to know someone better, may now be considered sexual harrassment under the law, simply because regardless of the speaker/acter's intention, it may be perceived (even if incorrectly) as sexual discrimination or harrassment by the employee to whom the conduct is directed. I'm not suggesting that the law should not be this way, but I'm simply saying that in my opinion, some of this conduct, particularly conduct that occurred in years past before there was so much emphasis on this area of law in the workplace, would not, in my mind, reflect on the ability or fitness of someone to be president or to hold any other position.

This has lead to alot of sensitivity training, particularly in the past decade, that probably was not as common in the 1990s, when Mr. Cain is accused of the inappropriate conduct. Today, managers and leaders in companies are much more knowledgable of conduct to avoid than they were in the past.

Mr. Cain's race, to me, has nothing to do with the unfairness of the innuendo that has been made of all of this. I would think it was equally unfair regardless of the race of the candidate involved, with no more facts than are known.

Whatever he is accused of having done (which he denies that he even did) might in fact be any where from serious sexual advances to completely innocently-intended nonsexual statements; or anything between these two extremes. Without knowing anything about the specific conduct, I think it is very wrong to judge him whatsoever about any of this. Otherwise, any person, man or woman, could be made to look 'bad' for something that they have said or done (or are accused to have said or done) that a fair-minded person, knowing the actual facts, would in no way hold against them or feel reflected on their character or ability to lead.

Just as people are presumed innocent under our justice system, I think it is wrong to draw any inference at all against Mr. Cain merely because accusations of some form of sexual discrimination or harrassment were made against him over a decade ago; which is all that we know, at least for now. Without any other information than that, to me it is a "so what?"

Originally Posted by memason

You're joking, right???? I don't believe your post has anything to do with "mocking" anyone.... You said what you thought...

it is what it is....

Oh gee; now I'm hurt. Everything you say has such a big impact on me I don't know what I'll do now. You don't believe me? Oh woe!!