Originally Posted by RichieLion

You're reading too much into Rush's comments, in my opinion. Rush is an avid fan of football, and that's all there is to it. He likes the game and it's total Americanism.

If football is banned in this one school, or school district, he will still be able to watch football. Why is he being so defensive? If he likes Americanism, he should allow for free choice without browbeating individuals who speak up for what they believe in. He may choose to worry about the future of football, while Patty Sexton chooses to worry about the health of her students and school finances.

All your other speculations about his "motives" are just so much garbage about things that have little connection with Rush, IMHO.

I'm guessing you don't find a problem with his speculations when he says the following: He refers to Patty Sexton as a "busybody woman". He lumps her in with those who raise taxes on cigarettes to pay for children's health care. Even dredges up the old issues of trans fats and SUVs.

He says all of that while there's absolutely is no indication that she is a liberal. But he appears to be trying hard to paint her as one. To the contrairy, she stated that high school football should NOT be funded by taxpayers. Sounds like she could be a conservative!!!! She's worried about the possibility of eventual law suits against the school. Another conservative position, in my opinion: If the school gets sued, it will put the taxpayers at risk.

And how about your speculations about his motives? You speculate that he's going against this one person, because he is, "an avid fan of football". More garbage?

Originally Posted by rubicon

I haven't heard one word as to the benefits of football or for that matter many other sports or undertakings by young people. Many physical activites in general build strong bodies and minds and teach kids the benefits of sacriface, training determination, compeititveness, etc. Risk is a fact of life. Risk is inherit in all facets of living. Risks can be reduced, transferred etc but risk can never be eliminated. People who are obsessed with eliminating risk do not understand the limits of nature. You cannot place children, people or any living thing in a bubble because one way or another risk will visit them.

Don't pay that sport you may get hurt. don't marry that person he/she is not good for you. don't invest in that stock because... don't gamble your life away trying to build that business. don't don't don't

The higher the risk the greater the reward that is what nature demands. For those brave enough to venture out most are greatly rewarded and as nature intended some are not. To discourage children from being adventurers is to damage their very being.

Very good post, rubicon.

Now I'd like to speak on behalf of Patty Sexton. I think she knows something about risk. Look at the risk she took by speaking about this issue. She will be slammed by every talk show host on radio. She's been called a "busybody woman" by Rush. I would go so far as to call it, "Operation Destroy". Instead of Rush using good points about football, like you did above, he's out to destroy her.

This "busybody woman" doesn't think that football should be funded by taxpayers. Why doesn't Rush tell us what's wrong with that?

This "busybody woman" is worried about the possibility of eventual law suits against the school which would put the taxpayers at risk. Why doesn't Rush tell us what's wrong with worrying about the taxpayers?

This "busybody woman" is worried about the lasting effects form football injuries, especially concussions. Why doesn't Rush address this issue?

Originally Posted by Villages PL

If football is banned in this one school, or school district, he will still be able to watch football. Why is he being so defensive? If he likes Americanism, he should allow for free choice without browbeating individuals who speak up for what they believe in. He may choose to worry about the future of football, while Patty Sexton chooses to worry about the health of her students and school finances.



I'm guessing you don't find a problem with his speculations when he says the following: He refers to Patty Sexton as a "busybody woman". He lumps her in with those who raise taxes on cigarettes to pay for children's health care. Even dredges up the old issues of trans fats and SUVs.

He says all of that while there's absolutely is no indication that she is a liberal. But he appears to be trying hard to paint her as one. To the contrairy, she stated that high school football should NOT be funded by taxpayers. Sounds like she could be a conservative!!!! She's worried about the possibility of eventual law suits against the school. Another conservative position, in my opinion: If the school gets sued, it will put the taxpayers at risk.

And how about your speculations about his motives? You speculate that he's going against this one person, because he is, "an avid fan of football". More garbage?

It's all about football and freedom. All else is garbage thinking.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

It's all about football and freedom. All else is garbage thinking.

Okay, let's say that it's "all about football and freedom". I would think "freedom" also implies the freedom for a high school or school district to NOT have football. And what about Patty Sexton's freedom to express her oppinion without being attacked by Rush? He's behaving like a bully and you support him. Talk about garbage thinking.

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Okay, let's say that it's "all about football and freedom". I would think "freedom" also implies the freedom for a high school or school district to NOT have football. And what about Patty Sexton's freedom to express her oppinion without being attacked by Rush? He's behaving like a bully and you support him. Talk about garbage thinking.

She has her freedom, and Rush has his. It's a wonderful thing.

I think trying to impose your will is akin to bullying and Patty Sexton qualifies in that regard, herself.

I'm only expressing my opinion on the subject matter and so is Rush.

You can be described as a bully here yourself, by your own parameters.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

She has her freedom, and Rush has his. It's a wonderful thing.

I think trying to impose your will is akin to bullying and Patty Sexton qualifies in that regard, herself.

A bully is a person who intimidates, belittles or demeans smaller or weaker people. Rush is bigger and stronger than Patty Sexton in many ways. As a professional broadcaster with a large audience, he's bigger and stronger by virtue of his nation-wide broadcasting power. And he used that power like a sledgehammer on Patty Sexton. If calling her a "busybody woman" was not an effort to belittle or demean, then what was it?

I'm only expressing my opinion on the subject matter and so is Rush.

As I said above, he's doing more than that. He's a bully and you support him.

You can be described as a bully here yourself, by your own parameters.

I defined bullying above and I don't fit that description.

Moreover, another reason I think he was on a bullying mission is because he ignored the pertinent issues that she raised. If one doesn't speak to the issues, what's left? The only thing left is "name calling" and lumping her in with those who are against trans fat and SUVs, as if she might be part of a larger conspiracy to take away our freedoms.

Rush would be all for cutting taxes by cutting waste from school budgets, but not football. Oh, noooooooo! We NEEEEEEEEEEEEED football! And to those who will cry that I'm putting words in his mouth, I say this: His silence (on the tax issue) speaks louder than words. Therefore, not only is he a bully but a hypocrite too.

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Very good post, rubicon.

Now I'd like to speak on behalf of Patty Sexton. I think she knows something about risk. Look at the risk she took by speaking about this issue. She will be slammed by every talk show host on radio. She's been called a "busybody woman" by Rush. I would go so far as to call it, "Operation Destroy". Instead of Rush using good points about football, like you did above, he's out to destroy her.

This "busybody woman" doesn't think that football should be funded by taxpayers. Why doesn't Rush tell us what's wrong with that?

This "busybody woman" is worried about the possibility of eventual law suits against the school which would put the taxpayers at risk. Why doesn't Rush tell us what's wrong with worrying about the taxpayers?

This "busybody woman" is worried about the lasting effects form football injuries, especially concussions. Why doesn't Rush address this issue?

Villages Pl:

I agree that Patty Sexton ought to have the opportunity to express her belief/opinions withoutfeeling the heavy handedness of talk show host.

I also agree that taxpayers should not fund football (stadiums, etc) These owners are billionaires and make enormous profits and yet the taxpayers foot the bill. The only funding a taxpayer should do is buy a ticket.

Ms. Sexton's concerns about lawsuits has long been a reality. I know because the insurance carrier I worked for insured hundred up hundreds of schools. I had been involved in more than one lawsuit because of a football injury..but that is a whole other topic..

And Ms. Sexton is also correct to worry about concussion.

Again I reiterate that risk is a part of life and while the prudent individual does not invite risk, risk can never be eliminated from our lives. and again I reiterate that football and sports in general benefits far exceed potential risks.

There's nothing special about Patty Sexton that she should be immune from criticism.

It's misogynist to think she should be treated daintily.

It's totally fine to disagree with her, especially since she's a busybody.

As the wonderful Billy Joel says:

"I don't care what you say anymore, this is my life
Go ahead with your own life, and leave me alone"

Rush is simply a pig who uses inflammatory language roil the far right-wingers to a frenzy while he counts his money.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

There's nothing special about Patty Sexton that she should be immune from criticism.

I didn't say she should be immune from criticism. I just thought he was way too heavy handed. and ignored the issues, as you do.

It's misogynist to think she should be treated daintily.

Daintily? That's your word not mine. Speaking of "misogynist", Rush used the word "busybody" which I doubt he would have used if it had been a man.

It's totally fine to disagree with her, especially since she's a busybody.

And it's fine for me to disagree with such childish statements.

As the wonderful Billy Joel says:

Who cares?

Originally Posted by Villages PL

I didn't say she should be immune from criticism. I just thought he was way too heavy handed. and ignored the issues, as you do.

I am absolutely ignoring what you consider the issues. I have my own issue, and that is the freedom to live your own life without undue influence from elitists who believe they know what's best for everyone.

No one should post in a serious manor when refering to Rush. Please remember, he is a comedian and not an information sourse.

Originally Posted by The Villager II

No one should post in a serious manor when refering to Rush. Please remember, he is a comedian and not an information sourse.

Of course he is one of, if the the most, influential member of the media and has had history changing effects with his commentary.

But, you're free to be a bit delusional about him. God knows you are not alone.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I am absolutely ignoring what you consider the issues.

Rush is ignoring the issues because he has no plausable arguments against them. And you are ignoring the issues because you are his faithful follower.

I have my own issue, and that is the freedom to live your own life without undue influence from elitists who believe they know what's best for everyone.

Undue influence, obviously, by your standards, is when one or two people in the U.S. speak up and say something contrairy to Rush's beliefs. You can't tolerate it. That's what comes from football elitists.

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Rush is ignoring the issues because he has no plausable arguments against them. And you are ignoring the issues because you are his faithful follower.
Undue influence, obviously, by your standards, is when one or two people in the U.S. speak up and say something contrairy to Rush's beliefs. You can't tolerate it. That's what comes from football elitists.

I rarely listen to Rush Limbaugh. I'm much too busy. I read your post and then went to read his transcript and saw that you mislead everyone on this issue because you have a bee in your bonnet about people's behavior that you deem dangerous, whether it's sports or foods you don't approve of, and really believe you know better than anyone else what's good for them, and that you should be able to curtail that activity.

I think Rush is right and you are wrong. It's an issue of personal freedom and Rush believes in freedom, and you believe in a nanny state that would control the behaviors of people that you don't like. You should write Mayor Nanny Bloomberg in NY and see if he needs an assistant.