Originally Posted by Guest

So you are a choicer....If humans have brains then we "should" be able to make a choice. Obviously you are NOT gay so at what age did you CHOOSE to be attracted to women, if you are a male. Did you ever feel those same feeling for a man? If you answered YES and then NO you didn't actually make a choice. Its the same for homosexual's they don't make a choice on who they are attracted to the only choice for them is to have a life or not.

As for this BS

IMO most homosexual intention was behavioral problems early in childhood life or lack of affection by the other gender I assuming small percentage hormones got screwed up in the womb, which could explain the homosexual animals. This might have been the thought years ago but not for quite some time. Homosexually was removed from the DSM in 1973.

Homosexuality was stricken from the DSM as a political move only.

If one reads what is included as a disorder and compares any one of them with homosexuality it would give one pause to wonder why homosexuality was removed. For instance a foot fetish is consider a disorder. So if a man is attracted to a woman's foot (ankle included more likely) he has a disorder. But a guy attracted to another guy' ***** does not. Hmmmmmmm

And as to the argument that animals do it is not a validation for normalcy. Obvious animals are capable of deviant acts also.

I do not want to hurt anyone's feeling because I am not addressing the person but the act. My focus is not on what religion says but what biology tells us. Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. Through natural procreation came natural selection.

Men/women alter the intent of nature through attitudes and science.
Do you suppose nature intended sex to be a SM exercise?

Many psychiatrist are concerned about what is happening in the transgender controversy. Parents are over reacting to this issue. There have always been tomboys but they grow up to be normal healthy woman. and some boys prefer to play with dolls but they too adjust. Psychiatrist have said that people who have transgendered live to regret it. they are confused.

I support and defend gay people's right to life liberty and the pursuit to happiness but I reject their desire to rewrite the laws of nature and attempt to turn this nation upside down Bill Clinton's don't ask, don't tell policy should apply nationally . Now let me hope that the mistake the oligarchy called the Supreme court decision in Oberfefell can be repealed

Originally Posted by Guest

Homosexuality was stricken from the DSM as a political move only.

If one reads what is included as a disorder and compares any one of them with homosexuality it would give one pause to wonder why homosexuality was removed. For instance a foot fetish is consider a disorder. So if a man is attracted to a woman's foot (ankle included more likely) he has a disorder. But a guy attracted to another guy' ***** does not. Hmmmmmmm

And as to the argument that animals do it is not a validation for normalcy. Obvious animals are capable of deviant acts also.

I do not want to hurt anyone's feeling because I am not addressing the person but the act. My focus is not on what religion says but what biology tells us. Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. Through natural procreation came natural selection.

Men/women alter the intent of nature through attitudes and science.
Do you suppose nature intended sex to be a SM exercise?

Many psychiatrist are concerned about what is happening in the transgender controversy. Parents are over reacting to this issue. There have always been tomboys but they grow up to be normal healthy woman. and some boys prefer to play with dolls but they too adjust. Psychiatrist have said that people who have transgendered live to regret it. they are confused.

I support and defend gay people's right to life liberty and the pursuit to happiness but I reject their desire to rewrite the laws of nature and attempt to turn this nation upside down Bill Clinton's don't ask, don't tell policy should apply nationally . Now let me hope that the mistake the oligarchy called the Supreme court decision in Oberfefell can be repealed

The ONLY reason this subject is even on any political agenda is to secure a voting bolck. NOTHING MORE.

There is nothing right about it at all. Someones choice? Fine. That is their business. They are a minority group that wants, with political and media support, to make it look and sound as if their presence is the norm....WHEN IT CLEARLY IS NOT...
I am sick and tired of hearing about it. I am more sick and tired of seeing it on every television and movie where they think they have to show two guys or gals kissing and groping.

They can do whatever they want just like they used to do. But stop the BS of making it be up front in every body's face day in and day out.

Originally Posted by Guest

The ONLY reason this subject is even on any political agenda is to secure a voting bolck. NOTHING MORE.

There is nothing right about it at all. Someones choice? Fine. That is their business. They are a minority group that wants, with political and media support, to make it look and sound as if their presence is the norm....WHEN IT CLEARLY IS NOT...
I am sick and tired of hearing about it. I am more sick and tired of seeing it on every television and movie where they think they have to show two guys or gals kissing and groping.

They can do whatever they want just like they used to do. But stop the BS of making it be up front in every body's face day in and day out.

Totally agree.....

Originally Posted by Guest

Homosexuality was stricken from the DSM as a political move only.

If one reads what is included as a disorder and compares any one of them with homosexuality it would give one pause to wonder why homosexuality was removed. For instance a foot fetish is consider a disorder. So if a man is attracted to a woman's foot (ankle included more likely) he has a disorder. But a guy attracted to another guy' ***** does not. Hmmmmmmm

And as to the argument that animals do it is not a validation for normalcy. Obvious animals are capable of deviant acts also.

I do not want to hurt anyone's feeling because I am not addressing the person but the act. My focus is not on what religion says but what biology tells us. Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. Through natural procreation came natural selection.

Men/women alter the intent of nature through attitudes and science.
Do you suppose nature intended sex to be a SM exercise?

Many psychiatrist are concerned about what is happening in the transgender controversy. Parents are over reacting to this issue. There have always been tomboys but they grow up to be normal healthy woman. and some boys prefer to play with dolls but they too adjust. Psychiatrist have said that people who have transgendered live to regret it. they are confused.

I support and defend gay people's right to life liberty and the pursuit to happiness but I reject their desire to rewrite the laws of nature and attempt to turn this nation upside down Bill Clinton's don't ask, don't tell policy should apply nationally . Now let me hope that the mistake the oligarchy called the Supreme court decision in Oberfefell can be repealed

It was removed..... But if it is true that as you say "Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. " Then why are so many men in this community using Viagra to have sex? Seriously they are NOT having sex for procreation now are they.

Originally Posted by Guest

It was removed..... But if it is true that as you say "Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. " Then why are so many men in this community using Viagra to have sex? Seriously they are NOT having sex for procreation now are they.

What does that have to do with it? Are attempting to get back to the point where you can blame Bush again?

Originally Posted by Guest

What does that have to do with it? Are attempting to get back to the point where you can blame Bush again?

The poster I was responding to claimed that sex was for procreation....if that were true then men would not be having sex with their wives who have gone through the change....NO PROCREATION.

Why do you bring up Bush? Don't think he is a part of this string.

Lastly what did Jesus say directly about Homosexuality?

Originally Posted by Guest

Rubio said that it is a state's right to define marriage, not the federal gov. He did NOT say he would repeal it. He said he would not change the Constitution. He did not say he would repeal any law regarding same sex marriage. This is just a campaign of misinformation perpetrated by deviant liberals.

You do know there are deviant Republicans....The Log Cabin Republicans!

Originally Posted by Guest

Nobody said anything about "repealing" gay marriage. Why do you keep perverting what someone says?

But, if you really want to know why it SHOULD be banned, since there is no federal law regarding marriage, maybe it's because the majority of Americans believe that marriage is religious, and the majority of Americans believe that a religious marriage is defined as one man and one woman.

Homosexuality is a deviant abnormal behavior that is TOLERATED, but not condoned. That is my opinion, which is shared by the majority. Deviant, but unharmful behavior should be kept in the bedroom where ALL sexual behavior should be kept. Not in parades in the street or on TV for the children to see.

Was someone having sex during a parade with children present?

Originally Posted by Guest

The poster I was responding to claimed that sex was for procreation....if that were true then men would not be having sex with their wives who have gone through the change....NO PROCREATION.

Why do you bring up Bush? Don't think he is a part of this string.

Lastly what did Jesus say directly about Homosexuality?

And what does Jesus have to do with this conversation? Why don't you ask HIM what he thinks? Oh......I see....we don't want to go there, right?

Originally Posted by Guest

Was someone having sex during a parade with children present?

I have no idea, did they? Since I have not attended them, perhaps you can answer that question. I have no idea why you ask, though. Perhaps, that is another confusion you are forced to contend with.

Originally Posted by Guest

You do know there are deviant Republicans....The Log Cabin Republicans!

What's that got to do with the comment? Perhaps you should not be smoking wacky weed while operating a computer.

Originally Posted by Guest

It was removed..... But if it is true that as you say "Strictly speaking nature devised sex for procreation. " Then why are so many men in this community using Viagra to have sex? Seriously they are NOT having sex for procreation now are they.

You are mixing nature's intent with man's/woman's desires; albeit nature made it pleasant to encourage participation. Again from a biological standpoint men and women fit nicely for the purpose of procreation as nature intended. And as nature intended eventually the old boy and girl's seed /eggs wear down and are unlikely to breed the best of a species and so well you know the rest of the story. Anything beyond that is made man.

Why are men using Viagra? Perhaps it is because they are afraid of growing old? Perhaps you should take a survey. I start by giving you my response. I don't take Viagra. Sex is still in my life but it is not a priority in my life . And quite frankly I believe this nation is too obsessed with sex. There has been only one woman in my life and my love for her has always centered on her heart and soul. Perhaps its why we remained together for so long?

Originally Posted by Guest

You are mixing nature's intent with man's/woman's desires; albeit nature made it pleasant to encourage participation. Again from a biological standpoint men and women fit nicely for the purpose of procreation as nature intended. And as nature intended eventually the old boy and girl's seed /eggs wear down and are unlikely to breed the best of a species and so well you know the rest of the story. Anything beyond that is made man.

Why are men using Viagra? Perhaps it is because they are afraid of growing old? Perhaps you should take a survey. I start by giving you my response. I don't take Viagra. Sex is still in my life but it is not a priority in my life . And quite frankly I believe this nation is too obsessed with sex. There has been only one woman in my life and my love for her has always centered on her heart and soul. Perhaps its why we remained together for so long?

Amen brother! Well said. Sex is no one's business other than the participants. Unlike gays, most of us prefer privacy and have no need to flaunt it. But gays yearn acceptance of their deviation, and the majority of moral humans just can't give them that. They don't want us to tolerate them. They want us to condone and accept their abnormal behavior. I do sympathize with their mental issues, but if they don't seek treatment for it, there is nothing that can be done to remedy it.

Originally Posted by Guest

What's that got to do with the comment? Perhaps you should not be smoking wacky weed while operating a computer.

Please try an keep up.....my comment was in response to this:

This is just a campaign of misinformation perpetrated by deviant liberals.

And while I may have a summer home in Colorado I have never smoked weed! Or ate it for that matter.

Originally Posted by Guest

Please try an keep up.....my comment was in response to this:

This is just a campaign of misinformation perpetrated by deviant liberals.

And while I may have a summer home in Colorado I have never smoked weed! Or ate it for that matter.

Good for you.