Originally Posted by senior citizen

I meant the senators and congressmen.

I concur with both Jack and Senior.

Actually, the thought of an automatic wage freeze for elected officials who fail to properly perform their duties is intriguing.

Senators and congressmen are paid to represent (serve) their constituents in particular and the American people in general, not their political party or special interests. One can clearly observe the negative ramifications that have already been incurred to date by the actions/inactions on the matter. Is a viable resolution yet on the near horizon?

Back to the pay freeze concept...play what if. On what parameters would such a measure be developed and how would it be imposed or automatically triggered? It will be interesting to see responses, don't you think?
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I am not sure that flooding the office of a federal level elected official with calls and letters would have the effect that one is looking to create. Doing so would only create more work for front line administrative support personnel w/out directly impacting the elected official personally.

I would think that flooding an elected official's email address would be a more effective method of delivering the intended message.

"Originally Posted by trichard View Post

It's interesting to note that Obama keeps shaming the Congress for not compromising. That word was absent when he was stuffing down his health care bill."




Comments like this belong in the political section.


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Originally Posted by tippyclubb

..... Or we should start flooding their offices with phone calls. I plan on doing that today after wacthing the news last night. I already have the numbers as I have done this before with other issues. .....

To tippy's earlier point, here's an article from our local central OH newspaper this afternoon:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...1&cmpid=aunews

It's only citing info re: some of Ohio's Representatives but I can't help but think all the other congressional-types across the country are experiencing the same scenarios.

Bill

Originally Posted by trichard

It's interesting to note that Obama keeps shaming the Congress for not compromising. That word was absent when he was stuffing down his health care bill.

1. Off topic, as usual.
2. THEY decided to NOT be involved, they walked out.
3. Who said "not only no but HELL NO". Say compromise again.

The Haircut

One day a florist went to a barber for a haircut.

After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, 'I cannot accept money from you , I'm doing community service this week.' The florist was pleased and left the shop.

When the barber went to open his shop the next morning, there was a 'thank you' card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.

Later, a cop comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replied, 'I cannot accept money from you , I'm doing community service this week.' The cop was happy and left the shop.

The next morning when the barber went to open up, there was a 'thank you' card and a dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.

Then a Congressman came in for a haircut, and when he went to pay his bill, the barber again replied, 'I can not accept money from you. I'm doing community service this week.' The Congressman was very happy and left the shop.

The next morning, when the barber went to open up, there were a dozen Congressmen lined up waiting for a free haircut.

And that, my friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between the citizens of our country and the politicians who run it.


BOTH POLITICIANS AND DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON!

Originally Posted by Talk Host

I thought about that, but doesn't this transcend politics. Isn't it at the core of the very financial stability of every person in the US, which includes The Villages.

I think politics is squaring off of Ds versus Rs and libs versus conservs. This topic is about what's going to happen to your stock portfolio, your retirement, your savings, your income. Just because politicians are the ones holding our well being in the balance, doesn't make it a discussion of politics. I'm talking about the human beings sitting in those chairs in Washington, those that we put there to look after us. Now, they are screwing with us instead. Not political.

I don't think the discussion of a, say corrupt sheriff, would be political just because he/she is a democrat or republican. Sticking it in the political forum will not make it go away.

Based on the performance of congress this topic ought to be relagted to a dark comedy thread

Originally Posted by DDoug

The only reason I said this is I was told once that something was political when I thought it wasn't. If you don't want to play to your rules don't.

I'm just a regular member now. If the admin wants to move this, he can do it with the click of a mouse.

Stop complaining about it here.
Go to www.whitehouse.gov and tell the President.

I did

I told him "the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few or the one".



WHO SAID THAT!

Originally Posted by DDoug

Shouldn't this have gone to the political section

I've learned on this forum that any thread I start that will engender any kind of controversy and/or possibly upset anyone, for whatever reason, should be put in "political". It saves a lot of nonsense from those who have fragile sensibilities, as they stay away from "political" and are subsequently safe from people who have strong opinions.

I'm not sure of the rules with the new administration of this forum, but the participants haven't changed.

I know I for one am holding my breath that this mess doesn't push my finances off the cliff. I am hoping to move to TV this fall or next spring, but another major economic downturn will probably change all that. Both in my being able to sell my current home and in my being able to finance an new place to live. 401K can not take another hit like it did in 2008......those people on the Hill are playing Russian Roulette with the average Americans future. There's is ensured even if they get voted out. Their pension is golden and I believe they get it after one day on the job not 25 or 35 years like the rest of us. That is if we even have a pension other than what we saved.

Suzanne

Originally Posted by momesu

I know I for one am holding my breath that this mess doesn't push my finances off the cliff. I am hoping to move to TV this fall or next spring, but another major economic downturn will probably change all that. Both in my being able to sell my current home and in my being able to finance an new place to live. 401K can not take another hit like it did in 2008......those people on the Hill are playing Russian Roulette with the average Americans future. There's is ensured even if they get voted out. Their pension is golden and I believe they get it after one day on the job not 25 or 35 years like the rest of us. That is if we even have a pension other than what we saved.

Suzanne

Don't worry about it and in fact you can capitalize on this standoff and boost your retirement fund. Make a big bet on which party you believe will blink first.

Originally Posted by trichard

It's interesting to note that Obama keeps shaming the Congress for not compromising. That word was absent when he was stuffing down his health care bill.

I personally find this discussion to not only be political but also a bit biased. People are expressing their opinion that this discussion is not political, and that's fine... but it's only up until you or another poster points out one of the real and primary issues that has led us to the current "debt crisis." Then, all of a sudden... the truth becomes the political comments, providing of course it's coming from a fiscal conservative's point of view!

It's also funny how certain "high level" political individuals in Washington spoke out of one side of their mouths up until the tea party ended the two year, one party rule in the last election. Then suddenly... they start using the other side of their mouths, and for undoubtedly political posturing!

Trichard, you forgot to mention the stimulus, bailouts and many other problems that biasedly developed during the two year unobstructed one party rule, which in itself can be disasterous regardless of what party it might be that's in such absolute power! If not for those biased actions, we would NOT be having these discussions today about this particular issue because there would be no need to raise the debt ceiling... yet!

Originally Posted by aln

Stop complaining about it here.
Go to www.whitehouse.gov and tell the President.

I did

I told him "the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few or the one".



WHO SAID THAT!

I know! I know!! Do I get a "star" for answering correctly?!

A quick way to solve all this is to repeal the 17th Amendment. Let each state's legisature appoint the two senators. Then each state will have control of their senator. Once the 17th A was passed, all control and represetation was lost.

We can at the same time amendment the Constitution to add Cap, Cut and Balance. Two for the price of one. Way a deal.

A rap video on the debt ceiling:
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