Originally Posted by Guest

If this were to come down to Hillary vs Carly I would vote Trump.

Then by default you would be casting a potential win for Clinton.
Why would you do that?
Do you really think Clinton is the better candidate? And why?

Are you saying you would swing all the way from wanting to vote for someone other than the current crony establishment (Trump) to the other end of the spectrum of a continuation of Obama agenda and even worse?

It would be helpful for you to explain why you would do that.

Fiorina is hands down a far, FAR more Trump like choice than voting for Clinton and democratic crony politics as usual!

Originally Posted by Guest

If this were to come down to Hillary vs Carly I would vote Trump.

As they say in the media, Trump has tapped into the voters disatisfaction and has made a splash, but nobody wants him to be President.

No matter what you think Washington and congress is like, he would simply alienate anyone who disagreed with him....do we not have a President like that at present.....he has no ability, despite his claims of getting things done, to work in a world of laws, etc. As President you at least must have a fleeting knowledge of something and cannot lead by platitudes.

Imagine him some evening explaining to the american people why he did this or that and telling you ....dont worry about it, I am always right.

No, and I will be very interested in the next few polls.

He has to know that POLLS are that...POLLS. They are not real voters and voters who are involved with these polls know that.

Only question on Trump is how he leaves. He does not take defeat very well as we know.

I am sure that Trump realizes that if he screws up the election, that he will undoubtedly be putting a target on his back. He may have an ego rivaling Obama's but he is not stupid. If he is as smart as he thinks he is, then he will eventually bow out of the race.

From what I have seen, he puts out more dirty slurs toward the GOP than the Dems. Makes one wonder exactly whose side he is on. Of course, his own.

Trump said he would consider running as an Independent if the Republican establishment did not respect him. From what I have heard on FOX, Trump is getting no respect right now. He also was disinvited to a Red State meeting and Megan Kelly put in his place. That was a huge "dissing" of The Donald. He does not forget nor does he forgive!

I feel that Trump knows exactly how it may play out. He gets "dissed" some more by Republicans and he forms the third party. Trump runs, the Democrat (Hillary) runs, the Republican runs (?) and Hillary wins. Trump gets special access to the White House whenever he wants and Hillary will make it seem like she is asking Trump for advice on domestic and economic policy.

It could happen!

Trump ended a call today with this memo to fellow GOPer's "I have a lot of money and I'm not getting out. I am going to win".

Trump messes this up and he will have half the population of the country against him. Makes him an easy target. If he is the business man he calls himself, he has undoubtedly broken laws before, so he would have to be double careful in the future, not to slip. But, lets wait and see. The folks over at FOX have treated him pretty good, over all. He speaks on FOX every Monday morning. Could be a carefully orchestrated plot to throw the liberals off their game. Who says that the DEMs have all the political expertise?

One thing is certain....whether intended or not Trump has become a lightning rod attracting all the attention of the opposition, the media and the special interest folks.

Hence giving the rest of the field an opportunity to campaign without as much dirt digging as would usually be taking place.

And even the Trump/Meagan celebrity side show serves the same purpose. It also demonstrates that no matter how wealthy or educated or positioned, the school yard, OH YEAH, mentality in all it's ugly stupidity rises front and center.

Was Trump sabotaged by big Republican donors/GOP Establishment at Thursday's debate? Its clear that non of the other nine candidates went after Trump and in my vie to their credit. Did Fox News correspondents Kelly, Baier and Wallace show a disdain for Trump and as such followed their orders from GOP donors/Establishment to bury him then and now? Did Fox hit below the belt with some of their questions directed at Trump? Was Eric Erickson's dis-invite to Trump over alleged mistreatment of Kelly to Red State on Saturday a continuation of the effort by GOP to shun Trump? And will it hurt Trump? or GOP?

Trump he did not get rich by not playing close to the vest and hedging his bets. And quite frankly there is nothing he said that surprised me. In fact I understan that he wants the GOP Establisment's blessing and he wants the Republican nomination.

He said if he did not get the GOP nomination and liked the GOP nominee he would support that person but if he could not support the GOP nominee he would go 3rd party. So is his concern sincere? Does Trump's claim that he loves America real or is it Political fodder? We don;t know and that is the rub. Here are some thoughts for discussion:

Is Trump the trojan horse for Hillary?

Is he out for Trump alone and he doesn't care which party affiliation gets him to the White House?

Is he playing a huge financial game posturing and positioning himself to capitalize on the next administration by staking out strategic positions now domestically and foreign and using the presidential candidacy for to ensure gets to inner circles?

I like Megan Kelly, Bret Baier but I believe they hit below the belt when it came to Donald Trump with what I considered tabloid journalism. if they want Trump they knew he is only about attitude and not substance and they could have challenged him on more specificity thus demonstrating to the voter that while he is entertaining he would not be effective in the White House

Meggan Kelly was a favorite but she did disappoint me during this debate.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

Was Trump sabotaged by big Republican donors/GOP Establishment at Thursday's debate? Its clear that non of the other nine candidates went after Trump and in my vie to their credit. Did Fox News correspondents Kelly, Baier and Wallace show a disdain for Trump and as such followed their orders from GOP donors/Establishment to bury him then and now? Did Fox hit below the belt with some of their questions directed at Trump? Was Eric Erickson's dis-invite to Trump over alleged mistreatment of Kelly to Red State on Saturday a continuation of the effort by GOP to shun Trump? And will it hurt Trump? or GOP?

Trump he did not get rich by not playing close to the vest and hedging his bets. And quite frankly there is nothing he said that surprised me. In fact I understan that he wants the GOP Establisment's blessing and he wants the Republican nomination.

He said if he did not get the GOP nomination and liked the GOP nominee he would support that person but if he could not support the GOP nominee he would go 3rd party. So is his concern sincere? Does Trump's claim that he loves America real or is it Political fodder? We don;t know and that is the rub. Here are some thoughts for discussion:

Is Trump the trojan horse for Hillary?

Is he out for Trump alone and he doesn't care which party affiliation gets him to the White House?

Is he playing a huge financial game posturing and positioning himself to capitalize on the next administration by staking out strategic positions now domestically and foreign and using the presidential candidacy for to ensure gets to inner circles?

I like Megan Kelly, Bret Baier but I believe they hit below the belt when it came to Donald Trump with what I considered tabloid journalism. if they want Trump they knew he is only about attitude and not substance and they could have challenged him on more specificity thus demonstrating to the voter that while he is entertaining he would not be effective in the White House

Meggan Kelly was a favorite but she did disappoint me during this debate.

Personal Best Regards:

In my opinion, if Trump was offended by Megan's questioning, then he's in the wrong place. They asked the same type of questions from each of the candidates. They all got the weak spot questions. They better get used to it now, before Hillary's folks start in on them. I believe the media is blowing Megan's questioning out of proportion. FOX did an outstanding job on the debates.

I am not always a fan of Fox News, but I thought they ran an excellent debate.

Originally Posted by pbkmaine

I am not always a fan of Fox News, but I thought they ran an excellent debate.

Donald Trump Considering Taking Pledge Not to Run as Third-Party Candidate - ABC News


According to published reports today, Donald Trump is rethinking his position on taking the pledge to run as a third party candidate. It seems the RNC may restrict future debates to only those candidates that have taken the pledge.

Originally Posted by Guest

Donald Trump Considering Taking Pledge Not to Run as Third-Party Candidate - ABC News


According to published reports today, Donald Trump is rethinking his position on taking the pledge to run as a third party candidate. It seems the RNC may restrict future debates to only those candidates that have taken the pledge.

Would anyone trust him now? He flip-flops as much as Obama. And I thought Obama had the franchise on that.

Originally Posted by Guest

Would anyone trust him now? He flip-flops as much as Obama. And I thought Obama had the franchise on that.

No, Mitt Romney is the king of flip-flops.

That was one on his attributes that cost him the election in 2012.

Originally Posted by Guest

No, Mitt Romney is the king of flip-flops.

That was one on his attributes that cost him the election in 2012.

Not really. What cost him the election was the black and independent vote. His flip-flops are a liberal exaggeration to cover for Obama's inept performance.