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Old 03-06-2017, 02:23 PM
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My original post referenced all politicians the news media and of course Hollywood.

All this childish bickering back and forth. Hypocrisy rules supreme in politics. Obama is indeed a bad actor. Actually his acting ability is great so I mean the other definition of bad actor.

Trump needs to stop the tweeting. Every executive president be it POTUS or a corporation hires bulldogs specifically for such purposes.

I have been very concerned about how politicized our intelligence community has gotten because a political intelligence community can easily morph into a KGB, statsi, etc.

What is happening now goes beyond "he says, she says" and its going to sink this nation.

We need some adults in the room but the shouting has just gotten too deafening and no one is listening

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Not one single word about.....

President of the United States making false unconfirmed accusations about an ex president committing a felony, or 500,000 illegal immigrants voting.

Or the ramifications on our country as a result

In fact, not one word or concern about our country.

Defending, and that is what you are doing, a man who does these things is, in itself, indefensible. You use fancy words to protect your hypocrisy, and your placement of your country secondary to this disgusting man, but it comes through loud and clear.

Wrapping all politicians, or media in one big sentence without recognizing the truth is, in itself a lie.

While people you mention can at times be held accountable for many things, only one single man is behind all of this, and you praise and defend I'm.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:43 PM
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I know you love him and find him infallible, but for the last few months, one man's antics, one man's lies, one man's factless accusations, one man's mean spirited attacks, one man's attacks on judges, etc...re driving everything hike you and your ilk cheer him on.

He has destabilized so much of the country with lie upon lie AS THE WORLD WATCHES. And you and your ilk cheer him on.

You mistake criticism of this hate filled lying man as some sort of validation of those you don't like. Which it's not, but you support what is happening.

Blame yourself and people like you. Preach wholesomeness while supporting the opposite in your leader...preach honesty, whilebfalling prey to one of the largest lists in history...preach all younwant, but your praise and support for this man speaks volumes.

In my mind, President Trump simply continues to make a fool of you and those who BLINDLY followed him. This is not "draining the swamp" ..this is not making America great again.

The headlines from my country have been at times seen in third world countries but we are now an embarrassment throughout the
World. We never claimed perfection, but now we will have a problem laying claim to any virtue or positive characteristic.
It is obvious to all but perhaps your self that you do not like Trump and you have no respect for those of us WHO VOTED FOR HIM.
Forgive me but your belief that the CLINTON MOB or the DICTATES of Obama are superior leads me to wonder about your sanity.
At least Sanders is honest enough to state he is a socialist. The fact is that so was Obama and Hillary is even more so. There is history for all of them that proves my point.
See your post and most of the others. Obama being our first black president was granted a unique opportunity to vastly reduce the black white racial friction that has haunted our country-our country-both for blacks and for whites. Instead, Obama made a conscious CHOICE to fan embers of racial conflict into forest fires. WE, are supposed to, YOU have no trouble accepting BLACK POWER, THE BLACK CAUCUS, BLACK LIVES MATTER ETC. How can you not see that as RACIST? The charge of the LIBERAL is to label anyone who does not shre your tunnel vision as RACIST. Widen your view. If there was a group SCREAMING WHITE POWER, A WHITE CAUCUS, WHITE LIVES MATTER we would both see that as RACIST.

The LIBERALS throw around the term FAIR. Fair is what you EARNED with the cards YOU were dealt.

Dear LIBERAL-you THINK it is FAIR to admit a black into college over a white with better grades? You think it is FAIR to have government aid for blacks? You think it is fair to have a united NEGRO COLLEGE FUND. If, the same sort of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION went to whites we would both see that for what it is RACIST. Same is so about IF THERE WAS government aid for whites only or a united WHITE COLLEGE FUND.

Things will never be fair because fair is impossible to define.

TRUMP has been president for just over THIRTY DAYS. Obama was president for EIGHT YEARS. Yet, you LIBERALS blame TRUMP for the mess we are in. Racial conflict, a population convinced that WORK, SUCCESS are evil. The you o meeeeeee, giiiimmmmmmeeeeee mentality. OBAMA HAS LEFT AN UNPAID BILL OF TEN TRILLION DOLLARS ON THE DESK.

You LIBERALS think we need more OBAMA. You voted for Hillary who is actually LEFT OF OBAMA.

Oh, and for FAIR. Every man woman and child in the US owes 85.000 for OBAMA'S DEBT. Since, I clearly did not vote for Obama OBAMA'S DEBT IS NOT FAIRLY MINE.
SHOULD I BE EXPECTING YOUR CHECK? YOU KNOW, IN YOUR CASE I WANT CASH.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:44 PM
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Dear Guest:

My original post referenced all politicians the news media and of course Hollywood.

All this childish bickering back and forth. Hypocrisy rules supreme in politics. Obama is indeed a bad actor. Actually his acting ability is great so I mean the other definition of bad actor.

Trump needs to stop the tweeting. Every executive president be it POTUS or a corporation hires bulldogs specifically for such purposes.

I have been very concerned about how politicized our intelligence community has gotten because a political intelligence community can easily morph into a KGB, statsi, etc.

What is happening now goes beyond "he says, she says" and its going to sink this nation.

We need some adults in the room but the shouting has just gotten too deafening and no one is listening

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The growing Hispanic majority is what IS going to sink the country. NOTHING is more certain. Nothing is more important.

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Not one single word about.....

President of the United States making false unconfirmed accusations about an ex president committing a felony, or 500,000 illegal immigrants voting.

Or the ramifications on our country as a result

In fact, not one word or concern about our country.

Defending, and that is what you are doing, a man who does these things is, in itself, indefensible. You use fancy words to protect your hypocrisy, and your placement of your country secondary to this disgusting man, but it comes through loud and clear.

Wrapping all politicians, or media in one big sentence without recognizing the truth is, in itself a lie.

While people you mention can at times be held accountable for many things, only one single man is behind all of this, and you praise and defend I'm.
That's funny...500,000...more like 10 million...the anchor babies...they are illegals too. "Citizens" who voted.

The ramifications are...the country is gone within 30 years...becoming a Mexico II. Look at the border towns/counties...THAT is Americas future.

Sadly...no...there isn't concern on EITHER side. You ARE being taken over...you ARE being bred out. We ARE at 49% now.

And you fiddle...
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:52 PM
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It is obvious to all but perhaps your self that you do not like Trump and you have no respect for those of us WHO VOTED FOR HIM.
Forgive me but your belief that the CLINTON MOB or the DICTATES of Obama are superior leads me to wonder about your sanity.
At least Sanders is honest enough to state he is a socialist. The fact is that so was Obama and Hillary is even more so. There is history for all of them that proves my point.
See your post and most of the others. Obama being our first black president was granted a unique opportunity to vastly reduce the black white racial friction that has haunted our country-our country-both for blacks and for whites. Instead, Obama made a conscious CHOICE to fan embers of racial conflict into forest fires. WE, are supposed to, YOU have no trouble accepting BLACK POWER, THE BLACK CAUCUS, BLACK LIVES MATTER ETC. How can you not see that as RACIST? The charge of the LIBERAL is to label anyone who does not shre your tunnel vision as RACIST. Widen your view. If there was a group SCREAMING WHITE POWER, A WHITE CAUCUS, WHITE LIVES MATTER we would both see that as RACIST.

The LIBERALS throw around the term FAIR. Fair is what you EARNED with the cards YOU were dealt.

Dear LIBERAL-you THINK it is FAIR to admit a black into college over a white with better grades? You think it is FAIR to have government aid for blacks? You think it is fair to have a united NEGRO COLLEGE FUND. If, the same sort of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION went to whites we would both see that for what it is RACIST. Same is so about IF THERE WAS government aid for whites only or a united WHITE COLLEGE FUND.

Things will never be fair because fair is impossible to define.

TRUMP has been president for just over THIRTY DAYS. Obama was president for EIGHT YEARS. Yet, you LIBERALS blame TRUMP for the mess we are in. Racial conflict, a population convinced that WORK, SUCCESS are evil. The you o meeeeeee, giiiimmmmmmeeeeee mentality. OBAMA HAS LEFT AN UNPAID BILL OF TEN TRILLION DOLLARS ON THE DESK.

You LIBERALS think we need more OBAMA. You voted for Hillary who is actually LEFT OF OBAMA.

Oh, and for FAIR. Every man woman and child in the US owes 85.000 for OBAMA'S DEBT. Since, I clearly did not vote for Obama OBAMA'S DEBT IS NOT FAIRLY MINE.
SHOULD I BE EXPECTING YOUR CHECK? YOU KNOW, IN YOUR CASE I WANT CASH.
Blacks and women get a free hand up...because they NEED a free hand up. They are unable to compete freely and therefore are allowed to have groups specifically for themselves....helping only them.

Have your grandchildren apply for a scholarship through the NAACP or any of the other "black" organizations...see if they get one. I haven't checked...but I'd bet that 49% of the scholarships don't go to whites. Sue them. Discrimination.

It's actually closer to $30,000 for EVERY man, woman, and child...of any age. We're born with $60,000 of federal debt in our name.
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Old 03-06-2017, 03:04 PM
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It is obvious to all but perhaps your self that you do not like Trump and you have no respect for those of us WHO VOTED FOR HIM.
Forgive me but your belief that the CLINTON MOB or the DICTATES of Obama are superior leads me to wonder about your sanity.
At least Sanders is honest enough to state he is a socialist. The fact is that so was Obama and Hillary is even more so. There is history for all of them that proves my point.
See your post and most of the others. Obama being our first black president was granted a unique opportunity to vastly reduce the black white racial friction that has haunted our country-our country-both for blacks and for whites. Instead, Obama made a conscious CHOICE to fan embers of racial conflict into forest fires. WE, are supposed to, YOU have no trouble accepting BLACK POWER, THE BLACK CAUCUS, BLACK LIVES MATTER ETC. How can you not see that as RACIST? The charge of the LIBERAL is to label anyone who does not shre your tunnel vision as RACIST. Widen your view. If there was a group SCREAMING WHITE POWER, A WHITE CAUCUS, WHITE LIVES MATTER we would both see that as RACIST.

The LIBERALS throw around the term FAIR. Fair is what you EARNED with the cards YOU were dealt.

Dear LIBERAL-you THINK it is FAIR to admit a black into college over a white with better grades? You think it is FAIR to have government aid for blacks? You think it is fair to have a united NEGRO COLLEGE FUND. If, the same sort of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION went to whites we would both see that for what it is RACIST. Same is so about IF THERE WAS government aid for whites only or a united WHITE COLLEGE FUND.

Things will never be fair because fair is impossible to define.

TRUMP has been president for just over THIRTY DAYS. Obama was president for EIGHT YEARS. Yet, you LIBERALS blame TRUMP for the mess we are in. Racial conflict, a population convinced that WORK, SUCCESS are evil. The you o meeeeeee, giiiimmmmmmeeeeee mentality. OBAMA HAS LEFT AN UNPAID BILL OF TEN TRILLION DOLLARS ON THE DESK.

You LIBERALS think we need more OBAMA. You voted for Hillary who is actually LEFT OF OBAMA.

Oh, and for FAIR. Every man woman and child in the US owes 85.000 for OBAMA'S DEBT. Since, I clearly did not vote for Obama OBAMA'S DEBT IS NOT FAIRLY MINE.
SHOULD I BE EXPECTING YOUR CHECK? YOU KNOW, IN YOUR CASE I WANT CASH.
I have no respect for any man who openly lies, and much less if he is President of the United States.

I have no respect for any man who falsely claims without substantiation that half a million illegal immigrants voted.

I have no respect for any man who accuses any other man of a felony, and much less if he is the President of the United States and said claim is against an ex president.

I have no respect for any man who attacks the United States judicial system, and much less if that man is President of the United States.

I will stop at this point because you obviously have a serious obsession about Obama and/or Clinton. I prefer to live in the present, not the past.
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Old 03-06-2017, 03:26 PM
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I have no respect for any man who openly lies, and much less if he is President of the United States.

I have no respect for any man who falsely claims without substantiation that half a million illegal immigrants voted.

I have no respect for any man who accuses any other man of a felony, and much less if he is the President of the United States and said claim is against an ex president.

I have no respect for any man who attacks the United States judicial system, and much less if that man is President of the United States.

I will stop at this point because you obviously have a serious obsession about Obama and/or Clinton. I prefer to live in the present, not the past.
What about women who do the same thing? Why the focus on "any man"....unless of course you are a female!
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Blacks and women get a free hand up...because they NEED a free hand up. They are unable to compete freely and therefore are allowed to have groups specifically for themselves....helping only them.

Have your grandchildren apply for a scholarship through the NAACP or any of the other "black" organizations...see if they get one. I haven't checked...but I'd bet that 49% of the scholarships don't go to whites. Sue them. Discrimination.

It's actually closer to $30,000 for EVERY man, woman, and child...of any age. We're born with $60,000 of federal debt in our name.
First of all if you could hire a woman or a black or a..........
and pay whatever percent less-claim 15% YOU WOULD HIRE THE WOMAN OR THE BLACK-THAT SIMPLE.

RE:NAACP
Recently, they had that woman who rose to power in the NAACP and they discovered she was white. She was fired for being white. NO LIBERAL RIOTS-GO FIGURE. What is the definition of FAIR of EQUAL?

RE: Numbers for the national debt.
The TRUE numbers simply are not available. The fact is if we knew our entire economy would collapse. A side trip-our currency-our MONEY is based on the full faith and credit of the United States. How many of us, democrat or republican STILL HAVE FAITH IN OUR GOVERNMENT?
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Blacks and women get a free hand up...because they NEED a free hand up. They are unable to compete freely and therefore are allowed to have groups specifically for themselves....helping only them.

Have your grandchildren apply for a scholarship through the NAACP or any of the other "black" organizations...see if they get one. I haven't checked...but I'd bet that 49% of the scholarships don't go to whites. Sue them. Discrimination.

It's actually closer to $30,000 for EVERY man, woman, and child...of any age. We're born with $60,000 of federal debt in our name.
COLLECT YOUR COURAGE and look up the national debt clock. This is provided by our government so of course we TRUST IT-don't we???????????????????????

You can focus on any of the numbers Debt per citizen is
$206,445 SAVINGS is $10,176. You can of course point out these are AVERAGES. Remember they include not only the poor but people like Trump, Buffet, Oprah Winfrey etc etc. Would you lend money to JOE AVERAGE who has savings of $10,176 but owes $206,445?

I had read we owe 85,000 you say 60,000. Of, course it is foolish but if Obama added as you say 30,000 to every man woman's and child's debt-SHOULDN'T THOSE WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA PICK UP HIS TAB?????????????????
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What about women who do the same thing? Why the focus on "any man"....unless of course you are a female!
One is a woman who is not in government, a private citizen, the other is the president, so your argument is nil.
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First of all if you could hire a woman or a black or a..........
and pay whatever percent less-claim 15% YOU WOULD HIRE THE WOMAN OR THE BLACK-THAT SIMPLE.

RE:NAACP
Recently, they had that woman who rose to power in the NAACP and they discovered she was white. She was fired for being white. NO LIBERAL RIOTS-GO FIGURE. What is the definition of FAIR of EQUAL?

RE: Numbers for the national debt.
The TRUE numbers simply are not available. The fact is if we knew our entire economy would collapse. A side trip-our currency-our MONEY is based on the full faith and credit of the United States. How many of us, democrat or republican STILL HAVE FAITH IN OUR GOVERNMENT?
"Recently, they had that woman who rose to power in the NAACP and they discovered she was white. She was fired for being white. NO LIBERAL RIOTS-GO FIGURE. What is the definition of FAIR of EQUAL?"

She resigned after trying to pass herself off as an African American, get your story straight, your acting like trump now.

Rachel Dolezal resigns; accused of lying about race - CNN.com
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It is obvious to all but perhaps your self that you do not like Trump and you have no respect for those of us WHO VOTED FOR HIM.
Forgive me but your belief that the CLINTON MOB or the DICTATES of Obama are superior leads me to wonder about your sanity.
At least Sanders is honest enough to state he is a socialist. The fact is that so was Obama and Hillary is even more so. There is history for all of them that proves my point.
See your post and most of the others. Obama being our first black president was granted a unique opportunity to vastly reduce the black white racial friction that has haunted our country-our country-both for blacks and for whites. Instead, Obama made a conscious CHOICE to fan embers of racial conflict into forest fires. WE, are supposed to, YOU have no trouble accepting BLACK POWER, THE BLACK CAUCUS, BLACK LIVES MATTER ETC. How can you not see that as RACIST? The charge of the LIBERAL is to label anyone who does not shre your tunnel vision as RACIST. Widen your view. If there was a group SCREAMING WHITE POWER, A WHITE CAUCUS, WHITE LIVES MATTER we would both see that as RACIST.

The LIBERALS throw around the term FAIR. Fair is what you EARNED with the cards YOU were dealt.

Dear LIBERAL-you THINK it is FAIR to admit a black into college over a white with better grades? You think it is FAIR to have government aid for blacks? You think it is fair to have a united NEGRO COLLEGE FUND. If, the same sort of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION went to whites we would both see that for what it is RACIST. Same is so about IF THERE WAS government aid for whites only or a united WHITE COLLEGE FUND.

Things will never be fair because fair is impossible to define.

TRUMP has been president for just over THIRTY DAYS. Obama was president for EIGHT YEARS. Yet, you LIBERALS blame TRUMP for the mess we are in. Racial conflict, a population convinced that WORK, SUCCESS are evil. The you o meeeeeee, giiiimmmmmmeeeeee mentality. OBAMA HAS LEFT AN UNPAID BILL OF TEN TRILLION DOLLARS ON THE DESK.

You LIBERALS think we need more OBAMA. You voted for Hillary who is actually LEFT OF OBAMA.

Oh, and for FAIR. Every man woman and child in the US owes 85.000 for OBAMA'S DEBT. Since, I clearly did not vote for Obama OBAMA'S DEBT IS NOT FAIRLY MINE.
SHOULD I BE EXPECTING YOUR CHECK? YOU KNOW, IN YOUR CASE I WANT CASH.
Should I expect your check for ronald reagan being the originator of Mexican amnesty, he started the whole thing.

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR
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First of all if you could hire a woman or a black or a..........
and pay whatever percent less-claim 15% YOU WOULD HIRE THE WOMAN OR THE BLACK-THAT SIMPLE.

RE:NAACP
Recently, they had that woman who rose to power in the NAACP and they discovered she was white. She was fired for being white. NO LIBERAL RIOTS-GO FIGURE. What is the definition of FAIR of EQUAL?

RE: Numbers for the national debt.
The TRUE numbers simply are not available. The fact is if we knew our entire economy would collapse. A side trip-our currency-our MONEY is based on the full faith and credit of the United States. How many of us, democrat or republican STILL HAVE FAITH IN OUR GOVERNMENT?
No, I would hire the BEST because it's worth MORE than the 15% I'm "saving".

What? There are no quota's for whites in the NAACP? She should have been allowed to stay. Rising to the top and white...WHY am I not surprised?

You're probably right...as with unemployment, inflation, and all the other bullsh!t numbers coming from the government...it's probably higher.

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One is a woman who is not in government, a private citizen, the other is the president, so your argument is nil.
How about ALL the other women who ARE in politics who lie?

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Should I expect your check for ronald reagan being the originator of Mexican amnesty, he started the whole thing.

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR
Yes he did...showing BOTH sides are corrupt and need to go...it's why I won't vote for ANY D or R crook. It can be argued now that Reagan is responsible for the destruction of the country. Hispanics WILL BE the majority within 30 years. THEY will wield the political power. You LET them destroy our country.
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Not one single word about.....

President of the United States making false unconfirmed accusations about an ex president committing a felony, or 500,000 illegal immigrants voting.

Or the ramifications on our country as a result

In fact, not one word or concern about our country.

Defending, and that is what you are doing, a man who does these things is, in itself, indefensible. You use fancy words to protect your hypocrisy, and your placement of your country secondary to this disgusting man, but it comes through loud and clear.

Wrapping all politicians, or media in one big sentence without recognizing the truth is, in itself a lie.

While people you mention can at times be held accountable for many things, only one single man is behind all of this, and you praise and defend I'm.
Once again, my original post lay blame for this nation's problems on all politicians. We can nit pick any issue but in the meantime the doomsday clock is ticking. that was my original message. The fact is the American people have no venue in which to stop these idiot politicians from crashing this nation to the ground


At this point it doesn't matter what Obama did or trump did, etc what matters is that we need to return our house to order and it ain't happening...welcome to the kardashian nation.

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Once again, my original post lay blame for this nation's problems on all politicians. We can nit pick any issue but in the meantime the doomsday clock is ticking. that was my original message. The fact is the American people have no venue in which to stop these idiot politicians from crashing this nation to the ground


At this point it doesn't matter what Obama did or trump did, etc what matters is that we need to return our house to order and it ain't happening...welcome to the kardashian nation.

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Sometime you are so right...so how come others you can be dead wrong?

Yes...the doomsday clock is ticking and the end of the countdown is 30 years from now...when America becomes Mexico II. It WILL change when the Hispanics become the absolute majority.

You HAD a venue...you listened to their lies...they swooned you...you voted for ANOTHER corrupt crook. He is there because the powers that be WANT him there. He was no rogue... As long as the country is run by Ds and Rs, it's doomed. They WILL suck too much from the host...us...and it WILL fail. It always does. EVERY time. This time is NOT different.

We NEED to go back to America being WHITE. It really IS our only hope. We were at our peak right before diversity took hold. Women and minorities are NOT the equal of white men...when it comes to creating/running a civilization.

Distraction...misdirection...it's an OLD trick that still works on the masses. Bread and circus...welfare and "entertainment". Keep the people quiet. Infants, given a bottle and propped in front of the TV...to keep them quiet...children, given their breakfast/lunch/snacks and propped in front of the TV to keep them quiet...adults, given food stamps and propped in front of the TV to watch sh!t on "prime time" to keep them quiet.

Oh...and the Kardashians...ALL multi racial...to "normalize" it, make the young accept it as "natural".

We ARE being bred out. Even previously "good" white families are interbreeding, you hear the tragic story of the daughter hooking up with a black guy. Then you start hearing the desperate excuses...as they try to convince themselves...how great it is. The fake smile as grandpa holds a mongrel and cries inside.

"Interracial marriages have a 41 percent chance of swirling out of control. Compare this to a 31 percent chance of divorce among same-race couples."
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Once again, my original post lay blame for this nation's problems on all politicians. We can nit pick any issue but in the meantime the doomsday clock is ticking. that was my original message. The fact is the American people have no venue in which to stop these idiot politicians from crashing this nation to the ground


At this point it doesn't matter what Obama did or trump did, etc what matters is that we need to return our house to order and it ain't happening...welcome to the kardashian nation.

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I respectfully disagree with your summazition.

It DOES MATTER a lot what Trump or Obama has done.

Our entire Republic is in danger....I will agree.

If Obama personally ordered wire taps on President Trump, that is not something that does not matter..it matters a lot.

If Trump made public accusations about Obama tapping his phones, that is not something to ignore.

This morning ourvPresident, once again tweeted a made up lie about Obama (relative to Gitmo). This comes after his accusations on wire tapping, millions of illegals voting, and so many others.

You certainly are correct in laying blame on all politicians. I agree.

But, right now, more than any time in history, there is simply no leader in our country to believe. AND when our leader is the "liar in chief" we are in serious danger as a country.

We have this situation with the extremely serious, and I think EXTREMELY is understating what all of this means to our country.

On this forum, for example, almost all posts are simply words criticizing liberal beliefs. While I would love to join that, my country, in my opinion is under terrible duress, and that duress is not attached to any specific ideology.

It is not related to conservative or liberal belief in any way but whether one President illegally wiretapped another. It is not related to conservative or liberal beliefs if a sitting President charges an ex president with an extremely serious felony with no basis for such charge, nor one he will make facing the American people.

All of this....investigating Russian involvement in our election (a needed investigation), investigation of serious wire tap charges, along with personal slams (a needed investigation), investigating charges of millions of illegal votes cast (a needed investigation) prevents discussion of the real issues facing our country from Iran firing missles (200 miles from Japan), ISIS using chemical weapons in Iraq, a new healthcare plan and its implication to our national debt, a study of vetting for immigration into our country.

Who do we believe ? In most cases we would believe our President, but based on his life, his campaign, and a short 6 weeks in office, we cannot. God help us in a real emergency knowing the truth.

This has to be resolved,...these issues..,they have nothing to do with conservative or liberal...NOTHING.

They have to do with what appears to be our leaders themselves destroying the government. I know Bannon advocated this exact thing, but that is so scary, I cannot accept that as of yet.

Rubicon, it matters a lot...a lot....what Obama or Trump did...a lot. Our nations future lays in the balance, Who do we believe ?

That has to be resolved first
 

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