Originally Posted by janmcn

Did it ever occur to any of these republicans, who questioned the aide's family ties, that to have the job Ms Abedin has, she has to have top secret clearance? Do these republicans who questioned the aide's family ties think that Secretary Clinton is a political novice and would hire someone for this sensitive position who wasn't fully investigated? And what about Ms Abedin's marriage do republicans find so amusing? It sounds to me that her religious beliefs/practices are being questioned.

and who approved her top secret clearance - the current administration? did secretary clinton hire her or was she assigned to the secretary? doubt anyone can find anything amusing about her marriage - except that she is still married to a guy who was caught sexting. it has to be quite the stretch to consider any of that a questioning of religious beliefs/practices in my book!

Could it have something to do with Chick-fil-a's discriminatory practices?

What practices would that be?

Originally Posted by janmcn

Could it have something to do with Chick-fil-a's discriminatory practices? You didn't quote the Civil Rights Act of 1965.

what discriminatory parcticeS?

Originally Posted by janmcn

Could it have something to do with Chick-fil-a's discriminatory practices? You didn't quote the Civil Rights Act of 1965.

They do not refuse to serve gay patrons, and they do not refuse to hire gay people. There is no need to refer to the civil rights laws.

The owner does have a right to express his beliefs without being punished or penalized by a governmental agency because of those beliefs. This violates our citizens' First Amendment rights.

"Consumers can disagree with a company's corporate political position and decide not to spend money there," Socarides said. "But the city cannot regulate speech by denying someone a permit to operate their business just because you disagree with their political beliefs."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1710319.html

These people just throw out such arbitrary nonsense it's a wonder they have anything in common with reality or truth at all. I think they just make it up as they go.

Originally Posted by njbchbum

and who approved her top secret clearance - the current administration? did secretary clinton hire her or was she assigned to the secretary? doubt anyone can find anything amusing about her marriage - except that she is still married to a guy who was caught sexting. it has to be quite the stretch to consider any of that a questioning of religious beliefs/practices in my book!

Ms. Abedin received top level clearances while she served, then Senator Clinton. So she would have actually received these clearances during the Bush Administration.
She actually started working, as an intern, for Secretary Clinton during her years as First Lady.

Originally Posted by dklassen

Just shows how hypocritical they are. I like lynyrd skynyrd so now I'm a racist. I'm a Christian and now I'm a bigot. Goofingnut's tolerance for other views is a true testament to the left.

Like the man said, ya just can't make this suff up:

stars and bars flag of bigotry - Google Search

I have to take a short trip, so I will clear up something here before I go:

YES if you have anything to do with the stars and bars, you are most likely not annoyed by racism.

If you try to force your view of what religion should be, you are most likely close to being extreme.

If you say you are not, I accept that with reservation.

But most importantly if you feel you are ALWAYS RIGHT, you need to take a closer look, as none of us are perfect and until you admit that to yourself you are just treading water. Pretending to be righteous or NOT being a bigot/racist will not open the gates for you. I am just trying to help.

See ya in a few days and miss ya already.
Love to all
Golfingnut

Originally Posted by Rubber Bucket

Ms. Abedin received top level clearances while she served, then Senator Clinton. So she would have actually received these clearances during the Bush Administration.
She actually started working, as an intern, for Secretary Clinton during her years as First Lady.

thanx for the clarification...if the bush administration did, indeed, approve the security clearance - that doesn't give me a whole lot of reassurance either - if ya know what i mean!

Originally Posted by janmcn

And do you include Michelle Bachman in that group that supports the principles of religious freedom and her trashing of Hillary Clinton's deputy, Huma Abedin?

Originally Posted by janmcn

Did it ever occur to any of these republicans, who questioned the aide's family ties, that to have the job Ms Abedin has, she has to have top secret clearance? Do these republicans who questioned the aide's family ties think that Secretary Clinton is a political novice and would hire someone for this sensitive position who wasn't fully investigated? And what about Ms Abedin's marriage do republicans find so amusing? It sounds to me that her religious beliefs/practices are being questioned.

I've been pointedly ignoring you for an extended period and only break that now temporarily to point out to others your "head in the sand" views on Ms. Huma Abedin. You are completely out of touch on the issues regarding this woman, regarding her position and her security access.

There is plenty to be concerned about coupled with all the evidence of ties between the Muslim Brotherhood and Ms. Huma Abedin.

Everyone who's paying attention already knows that Ms. Aberdin's mother, brother and late father are/were connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations.

But with more investigation it turns out that Ms. Aberdin herself is directly connected to a Abdullah Omar Naseef who is a major Muslim Brotherhood figure involved in the financing of al-Qaeda. Ms. Abedin worked for years as an editor of the journal of the Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs.That Institute was founded by the aforementioned Abdullah Omar Naseef, who remained active in it for decades, overlapping for several years with Ms.Abedin.

Naseef was also secretary general of the Muslim World League in Saudi Arabia, reportedly the most significant Muslim Brotherhood organization in the world. In that position, he founded the Rabita Trust, which is formally designated as a foreign terrorist organization under American law due to its support of al-Qaeda.

A person need not have done any wrongdoing to be denied high ranking government positions, or most importantly be denied security clearances that would allow access to classified info. There only needs to be a conflict of interest based on associations, allegiances or association with foreign interests.

The simple probing of the extensive and disturbing ties to the Muslim Brotherhood of Ms. Abedin’s family should have been sufficient to declare Ms. Abedin ineligible for any significant government position, let alone her own personal and longstanding connection to Abdullah Omar Naseef’s organization.

All in all Rep. Michelle Bachmann is to be commended for shining the light on this woman, and Sen. John McCain should be hanging his head in shame.

Ordered Liberty » Huma Abedin’s Brotherhood Ties Are Not Just a Family Affair

If I drive North 49 miles I can get a Chic Fil A sandwich. The fight and divisive actions of folks over a friggin chicken joint is unbelievable. Folks need to be watching who is going the fill the void in Syria when it falls. More Muslim extremist. Watch for it. The United Muslim Brotherhood is around the corner.

Don't be fooled into this paranoia: Do your own research for normal publications and articles on the subject.

The Convoluted Connections That Link Huma Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood - National - The Atlantic Wire

We have more to fear from Americans bent on Conspiracy theories than the Muslim Brotherhood. And I fear Muslims, but I don't stand guard in my bedroom in full battle dress uniform.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

I've been pointedly ignoring you for an extended period and only break that now temporarily to point out to others your "head in the sand" views on Ms. Huma Abedin. You are completely out of touch on the issues regarding this woman, regarding her position and her security access.

There is plenty to be concerned about coupled with all the evidence of ties between the Muslim Brotherhood and Ms. Huma Abedin.

Everyone who's paying attention already knows that Ms. Aberdin's mother, brother and late father are/were connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations.

But with more investigation it turns out that Ms. Aberdin herself is directly connected to a Abdullah Omar Naseef who is a major Muslim Brotherhood figure involved in the financing of al-Qaeda. Ms. Abedin worked for years as an editor of the journal of the Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs.That Institute was founded by the aforementioned Abdullah Omar Naseef, who remained active in it for decades, overlapping for several years with Ms.Abedin.

Naseef was also secretary general of the Muslim World League in Saudi Arabia, reportedly the most significant Muslim Brotherhood organization in the world. In that position, he founded the Rabita Trust, which is formally designated as a foreign terrorist organization under American law due to its support of al-Qaeda.

A person need not have done any wrongdoing to be denied high ranking government positions, or most importantly be denied security clearances that would allow access to classified info. There only needs to be a conflict of interest based on associations, allegiances or association with foreign interests.

The simple probing of the extensive and disturbing ties to the Muslim Brotherhood of Ms. Abedin’s family should have been sufficient to declare Ms. Abedin ineligible for any significant government position, let alone her own personal and longstanding connection to Abdullah Omar Naseef’s organization.

All in all Rep. Michelle Bachmann is to be commended for shining the light on this woman, and Sen. John McCain should be hanging his head in shame.

Ordered Liberty » Huma Abedin’s Brotherhood Ties Are Not Just a Family Affair

richielion: Why do you waste your time with publishing facts? Those opposed here won't read them because they will conflict with their opinions and that is something they just can't wrap their minds around.

It just like the denials coming from the White House concerning leaks regarding foreign policy. It is clear Obama is intent on positioning himself in a positive light as to foreign affairs and with or without a nod and a wink from him you know it is coming from Team Obama.
It also appears that Ms. Aberdin was vetted about as well as Obama.

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Don't be fooled into this paranoia: Do your own research for normal publications and articles on the subject.

The Convoluted Connections That Link Huma Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood - National - The Atlantic Wire

We have more to fear from Americans bent on Conspiracy theories than the Muslim Brotherhood. And I fear Muslims, but I don't stand guard in my bedroom in full battle dress uniform.

The Atlantic Wire is a "normal" publication? Yeah, OK if you think so.

Still, Ms. Abedin's prior relationship in Naseef's organization is fact, and Naseef's position as a money bundler for al Qaeda is fact, and Ms. Abedin's family's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood is fact.

Why you're so blindly excusing Ms. Abedin's shady history with the Muslim Brotherhood is very curious.

Originally Posted by rubicon

richielion: Why do you waste your time with publishing facts? Those opposed here won't read them because they will conflict with their opinions and that is something they just can't wrap their minds around.

It just like the denials coming from the White House concerning leaks regarding foreign policy. It is clear Obama is intent on positioning himself in a positive light as to foreign affairs and with or without a nod and a wink from him you know it is coming from Team Obama.
It also appears that Ms. Aberdin was vetted about as well as Obama.

I agree. Too many times folks will see or hear one opinion and take it as the truth. We must read all opinions before we use our brain to make a decision. There are folks on the internet that believe the first thing they see rather it is right or wrong.