On another thread a poster asked me " Why would you want the Liberal Party of minorities and women saved?

My response, for the sake of this nation. There is indeed a deeper and pronounced struggle in the Democratic Party.

For some well placed Democrats the key political word is resist and resist anything Trump. Democrat leaders such as Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Maxine waters, John Lewis, and Thomas Perez are dealing in too many absolutes and their myopic view of resist only is hurting all of us.

There is no room for dissenters in their Democratic Party. For example take the issue of abortion. You cannot be an anti-abortionist and a progressive Democrat, according to the aforementioned. Well this does not bode well for Heath Mello, a democrat who is running for Mayor in Omaha and is an anti-abortionist.

It does not bode well for Jim Kessler, VP of Third Way an organization of moderate Democrats whose mantra amounts to "renaissance" not resistance" .

The Democratic party need to loosen up the social justice agenda and start focusing on how to past legislation that will grow this economy.
and to do that they need to push aside the bad and bias counsel of the Pelosi, Obama's Schumers Perez.....

True enough the Republicans have their issues also and they too need to push them through and out of the way for the nation's sake.

So once again why do I desire to see the Liberal (progressive) (Democratic) Party saved. Because we need rationale and competing voices from both sides of the aisle to bring forth effective, efficient and forward thinking legislation.

Personal Best Regards:

Why Would You Want The Liberal Party Saved?

Perhaps a better word would be "preserved." I would like them preserved as in wax or taxidermy so that our children can have examples of what could have been the destroyers of American liberty. Examples of the coddled that would rather live in socialism than in a free country where you can be successful. Actually, I would like to see the Democratic party reinstated, and get rid of the liberal democrat party.

Originally Posted by Guest

On another thread a poster asked me " Why would you want the Liberal Party of minorities and women saved?

My response, for the sake of this nation. There is indeed a deeper and pronounced struggle in the Democratic Party.

For some well placed Democrats the key political word is resist and resist anything Trump. Democrat leaders such as Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Maxine waters, John Lewis, and Thomas Perez are dealing in too many absolutes and their myopic view of resist only is hurting all of us.

There is no room for dissenters in their Democratic Party. For example take the issue of abortion. You cannot be an anti-abortionist and a progressive Democrat, according to the aforementioned. Well this does not bode well for Heath Mello, a democrat who is running for Mayor in Omaha and is an anti-abortionist.

It does not bode well for Jim Kessler, VP of Third Way an organization of moderate Democrats whose mantra amounts to "renaissance" not resistance" .

The Democratic party need to loosen up the social justice agenda and start focusing on how to past legislation that will grow this economy.
and to do that they need to push aside the bad and bias counsel of the Pelosi, Obama's Schumers Perez.....

True enough the Republicans have their issues also and they too need to push them through and out of the way for the nation's sake.

So once again why do I desire to see the Liberal (progressive) (Democratic) Party saved. Because we need rationale and competing voices from both sides of the aisle to bring forth effective, efficient and forward thinking legislation.

Personal Best Regards:

I assume you refer to the Democratic party since there is no "liberal" party.

Yep, the Democrats need leadership, and the right kind, but the party is getting stronger.

I have said and will keep on saying it.......the Republican party is flat out folding in front of our eyes, no thanks to the President.

Having so much time to prepare legislation, after 8 years of just standing by and watching and they seem totally inept.

It is becoming increasingly clear, at this writing anyway, that ideology is becoming less important. We have a Republican President and congress who wants to spend money like a drunken sailor, thus they have lost their way fiscally. They have a president who is motivating, not his party, but the other party, along with many of his own to oppose him. Trump, in my opinion is on his own, tearing the Republican party apart. He is making NO appeal to the Democrats or to Republicans who oppose him.

As of now, the mid terms will be a landslide for the Democratic party as I see it, but again that is as of this time in history.

One disaster, and one lie while we are in some kind of crisis and Trump and the party will simply fade away.

I want the real conservatives to stand up....fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility, moral leadership. Right now this is simply a farce to call this party Republican because they are not close.

The adult in the room now is the Democrats, lack of leadership and all. They smell blood on the right, and while they do not "have the cards" right now, they have the Republican party on their heels. Owning all of government, bragging for years about what they would do, and what has happened thus far is a real shame. Mostly for our country.

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JOHN ADAMS (1735-1826)
The people "have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge-- I mean of the character and conduct of their rulers."

DWIGHT EISENHOWER (1890-1969)
The qualities of a great man are "vision, integrity, courage, understanding, the power of articulation, and profundity of character."

Here's a reason. More Americans voted for the Democrat Party candidate for POTUS than for any other candidate, by 3.5 million votes. How's that?

Originally Posted by Guest

Here's a reason. More Americans voted for the Democrat Party candidate for POTUS than for any other candidate, by 3.5 million votes. How's that?

South Americans?

This is really unusual in politics, but to the point, I see this becoming more norm than ever. Trump is making the Republican Party nervous, and not for the right reasonS


"The top Republican in the Senate on Tuesday rejected President Donald Trump's suggestion that his party change the chamber's rules to undercut the ability of Democrats to block legislation with filibusters.

"There is an overwhelming majority on a bipartisan basis that is not interested in changing the way the Senate operates on the legislative calendar," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporters."


http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/02/mccon...ster-idea.html

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[B]JOHN ADAMS (1735-1826)
The people "have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge-- I mean of the character and conduct of their rulers."

DWIGHT EISENHOWER (1890-1969)
The qualities of a great man are "vision, integrity, courage, understanding, the power of articulation, and profundity of character."[/B]

Originally Posted by Guest

Why Would You Want The Liberal Party Saved?

Perhaps a better word would be "preserved." I would like them preserved as in wax or taxidermy so that our children can have examples of what could have been the destroyers of American liberty. Examples of the coddled that would rather live in socialism than in a free country where you can be successful. Actually, I would like to see the Democratic party reinstated, and get rid of the liberal democrat party.

COULD? They DID destroy America...though it's not complete yet. Hispanics ARE the majority of children born...mathematics says...whomever has the majority of children, eventually becomes the majority...ruling majority...America becomes Maxico II within 30 years.

Originally Posted by Guest

Here's a reason. More Americans voted for the Democrat Party candidate for POTUS than for any other candidate, by 3.5 million votes. How's that?

Originally Posted by Guest

South Americans?

Actually...up to 50 million of Clinton's votes were from illegals. The anchor babies illegally dumped here over the last 30+ years.

Debate is essential in our Republic but it must take place in parliamentarian order and civility so that we hear one another. Essentially its not what the other guy believes that is a problem but in how s/he behaves. Civil debate is non-existent and that is a real danger to our society.

I believe there are a sufficient number of moderate Democrats to take control of their Party and reshape it. The radical and fringe groups of the Democratic Party are going to lose out because that is not the politic of most Americans.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

I assume you refer to the Democratic party since there is no "liberal" party.

Yep, the Democrats need leadership, and the right kind, but the party is getting stronger.

I have said and will keep on saying it.......the Republican party is flat out folding in front of our eyes, no thanks to the President.

Having so much time to prepare legislation, after 8 years of just standing by and watching and they seem totally inept.

It is becoming increasingly clear, at this writing anyway, that ideology is becoming less important. We have a Republican President and congress who wants to spend money like a drunken sailor, thus they have lost their way fiscally. They have a president who is motivating, not his party, but the other party, along with many of his own to oppose him. Trump, in my opinion is on his own, tearing the Republican party apart. He is making NO appeal to the Democrats or to Republicans who oppose him.

As of now, the mid terms will be a landslide for the Democratic party as I see it, but again that is as of this time in history.

One disaster, and one lie while we are in some kind of crisis and Trump and the party will simply fade away.

I want the real conservatives to stand up....fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility, moral leadership. Right now this is simply a farce to call this party Republican because they are not close.

The adult in the room now is the Democrats, lack of leadership and all. They smell blood on the right, and while they do not "have the cards" right now, they have the Republican party on their heels. Owning all of government, bragging for years about what they would do, and what has happened thus far is a real shame. Mostly for our country.

__________________________________________________ __________________________

JOHN ADAMS (1735-1826)
The people "have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge-- I mean of the character and conduct of their rulers."

DWIGHT EISENHOWER (1890-1969)
The qualities of a great man are "vision, integrity, courage, understanding, the power of articulation, and profundity of character."

There has not been a DEMOCRATIC party for about twenty years. My father was probably one of the last of that party. They can pretend to label themselves the Democrat party, but they are definitely NOT the Democratic party. Socialists, Socially progressive, communists, liberals, slackers are probably more suitable labels. Did I leave out "leaches?"

Originally Posted by Guest

Debate is essential in our Republic but it must take place in parliamentarian order and civility so that we hear one another. Essentially its not what the other guy believes that is a problem but in how s/he behaves. Civil debate is non-existent and that is a real danger to our society.

I believe there are a sufficient number of moderate Democrats to take control of their Party and reshape it. The radical and fringe groups of the Democratic Party are going to lose out because that is not the politic of most Americans.

Personal Best Regards:

Of course, in general what you say is true.

It does however apply to BOTH parties. I might agree with you in all, except for the White House.

The President is about the most NON civil person on the national stage. He is the President, and thus so many in his party spend time just defending his remarks.

Has there been a negative situation in congress or on the national stage that was not instigated or fueled by an uncivil or outlandish comment or accusation by the White House ?

I do believe the Democratic Party has moved far left. I also believe that extreme Republicans fuel Trump. They embrace his non civil behavior and shun debate of any kind.

The President knows he can lie and he will get support; he knows he can make accusations and will get support; he knows adhering to truth is not required. THAT is extreme behavior, and is not conducive to any debate

Even Killary is still in denial. She is still blaming Comey's report and Wikileaks for her failure. Liberals just can't believe that they were not GIVEN the election. It's just not fair!

Originally Posted by RubiTHECon

Debate is essential in our Republic but it must take place in parliamentarian order and civility so that we hear one another. Essentially its not what the other guy believes that is a problem but in how s/he behaves. Civil debate is non-existent and that is a real danger to our society.

I believe there are a sufficient number of moderate Democrats to take control of their Party and reshape it. The radical and fringe groups of the Democratic Party are going to lose out because that is not the politic of most Americans.

Personal Best Regards:

Your overt and flaming hypocrisy...never ceases to amaze.


You speak of civil discourse and debate and yet YOU...are the poster child of the inverse.


Your constant broad-brushed denigration of anything/anyone to the left of your far right extremism, your flagrant plagiarism and inability/unwillingness to EVER provide links to support your lies and misdirection...simply proves that YOU are the epitome of the real problem.


But hey, while you fail to contribute any intellectual discourse (in spite of your unceasing desperate attempts to do so), you do at least provide great mirth...so at least you have that going for you.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by Guest

Your overt and flaming hypocrisy...never ceases to amaze.


You speak of civil discourse and debate and yet YOU...are the poster child of the inverse.


Your constant broad-brushed denigration of anything/anyone to the left of your far right extremism, your flagrant plagiarism and inability/unwillingness to EVER provide links to support your lies and misdirection...simply proves that YOU are the epitome of the real problem.


But hey, while you fail to contribute any intellectual discourse (in spite of your unceasing desperate attempts to do so), you do at least provide great mirth...so at least you have that going for you.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Hey CNM......pull my finger..

Originally Posted by Guest

On another thread a poster asked me " Why would you want the Liberal Party of minorities and women saved?

My response, for the sake of this nation. There is indeed a deeper and pronounced struggle in the Democratic Party.

For some well placed Democrats the key political word is resist and resist anything Trump. Democrat leaders such as Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Maxine waters, John Lewis, and Thomas Perez are dealing in too many absolutes and their myopic view of resist only is hurting all of us.

There is no room for dissenters in their Democratic Party. For example take the issue of abortion. You cannot be an anti-abortionist and a progressive Democrat, according to the aforementioned. Well this does not bode well for Heath Mello, a democrat who is running for Mayor in Omaha and is an anti-abortionist.

It does not bode well for Jim Kessler, VP of Third Way an organization of moderate Democrats whose mantra amounts to "renaissance" not resistance" .

The Democratic party need to loosen up the social justice agenda and start focusing on how to past legislation that will grow this economy.
and to do that they need to push aside the bad and bias counsel of the Pelosi, Obama's Schumers Perez.....

True enough the Republicans have their issues also and they too need to push them through and out of the way for the nation's sake.

So once again why do I desire to see the Liberal (progressive) (Democratic) Party saved. Because we need rationale and competing voices from both sides of the aisle to bring forth effective, efficient and forward thinking legislation.

Personal Best Regards:

First of all YOU write your own questions and then answer them.

You seem to think we should have one party-THAT IS A DICTATORSHIP.

I believe that one should work for what they get and for what they need-AND I HAVE LIVED MY LIFE THAT WAY.
To support the current Democratic party which has become to party of U OOOOOOOO MEEEE-GIMMMMMEEEEEEE is for me to crap on my code of life.

Sadly, the democratic party has moved far left. Hillary, if any of her supporters read anything about her is and has been since college a SOCIALIST.

It is also sad that the republican party has moved far right.
To me, it seems the second amendment, right to bear arms, is a major issue. I do support the right to bear arms.
BUT, far too many republicans simply ignore THE FIRST AMENDMENT which prevents the government from establishing and enforcing any religion. ASIDE: the bill of rights, the first ten amendments, are in order of importance. I am PRO RIGHT TO CHOOSE. Those who want to remove the RIGHT to have an abortion in the end want to make a choice for others and they try to justify their disallowing freedom of choice for others on religious grounds. REREAD the first amendment. No one is forcing abortions.

I voted for TRUMP. I has been asked on these threads if people who voted for Trump are happy with their choice.
YES, I AM. Trump as I had hoped is left of the far right republicans and right of the far left democrats. Trump seems far right to some of you because Obama and Hillary are so far left. It is like being let out of an insane asylum and the outside world, THE REAL WORLD, seems crazy.

As to the democrats vs the republicans, to me it seems the democrats are more united than the republicans are. The reason it simple. THE REASON SHOULD NOT BE. The democrats have allowed people like SORROS to pull their strings. We as a country, have allowed only 5 major companies to control our major news sources. Of the five only one leans conservative and that of course is Fox. Aside: in the 1960's our major news sources were controlled by 49 companies and there was concern that it was too few.

BEFORE YOU REACT-research what I have said. What is important is that you do not know. What is more important then you do not know is THE PEOPLE PULLING THE STRINGS DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW.

This past election was capitalism vs socialism. Other than the fact that is does not work, socialism has a great deal of appeal. For proof it does not work, look at Greece, look at East Germany vs West Germany. look at North Korea vs South Korea.

Originally Posted by Guest

First of all YOU write your own questions and then answer them.

You seem to think we should have one party-THAT IS A DICTATORSHIP.

I believe that one should work for what they get and for what they need-AND I HAVE LIVED MY LIFE THAT WAY.
To support the current Democratic party which has become to party of U OOOOOOOO MEEEE-GIMMMMMEEEEEEE is for me to crap on my code of life.

Sadly, the democratic party has moved far left. Hillary, if any of her supporters read anything about her is and has been since college a SOCIALIST.

It is also sad that the republican party has moved far right.
To me, it seems the second amendment, right to bear arms, is a major issue. I do support the right to bear arms.
BUT, far too many republicans simply ignore THE FIRST AMENDMENT which prevents the government from establishing and enforcing any religion. ASIDE: the bill of rights, the first ten amendments, are in order of importance. I am PRO RIGHT TO CHOOSE. Those who want to remove the RIGHT to have an abortion in the end want to make a choice for others and they try to justify their disallowing freedom of choice for others on religious grounds. REREAD the first amendment. No one is forcing abortions.

I voted for TRUMP. I has been asked on these threads if people who voted for Trump are happy with their choice.
YES, I AM. Trump as I had hoped is left of the far right republicans and right of the far left democrats. Trump seems far right to some of you because Obama and Hillary are so far left. It is like being let out of an insane asylum and the outside world, THE REAL WORLD, seems crazy.

As to the democrats vs the republicans, to me it seems the democrats are more united than the republicans are. The reason it simple. THE REASON SHOULD NOT BE. The democrats have allowed people like SORROS to pull their strings. We as a country, have allowed only 5 major companies to control our major news sources. Of the five only one leans conservative and that of course is Fox. Aside: in the 1960's our major news sources were controlled by 49 companies and there was concern that it was too few.

BEFORE YOU REACT-research what I have said. What is important is that you do not know. What is more important then you do not know is THE PEOPLE PULLING THE STRINGS DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW.

This past election was capitalism vs socialism. Other than the fact that is does not work, socialism has a great deal of appeal. For proof it does not work, look at Greece, look at East Germany vs West Germany. look at North Korea vs South Korea.

No Susie...I asked that question.

No..what we have NOW is a "Dictatorship" by the two major D and R parties. They hold onto political power with an iron fist. The differences between the parties are all social and used to divide the people...so we hate one another instead of the criminals in power we should hate. They rule us with an iron fist know everything there is to know about you. All they have to do is want to look. There should be NO POLITICAL parties!

So then...like me...you are anti-minority? The minorities don't pull their weight. Almost half of the blacks collect some welfare. Almost 40% of Hispanics receive some form of welfare too. They ARE a net loss to the country as a whole. AND they are taking over by breeding us out! They ARE the majority of babies being born, starting school...and within 30 years WILL BE THE MAJORITY. Turning this country into Mexico II. Look what they've done to the border towns, the border counties.

The "right to bear ARMS, form well regulated militias"...is to PROTECT you from tyrannous government or, in the event of civil insurrection. WE were SUPPOSED to be the Army. ONLY used for defense. We weren't supposed to be an Empire.

The 1st Amend. shouldn't be used to make the government FORCE other religions equality either. It shouldn't be used to force "equality", "quotas" with religion like it does with race.

Abortion and birth control was effectively the white race's beginning of the end the start of our self-imposed genocide. That is when our numbers began to drop and the numbers of minorities who don't practice it like whites do, began to rise. Government NEEDS growth...if we won't do it for them...they'll bring in...and "hire" those who will. Now...as the white population drops below 50%...we WILL soon start paying the price.

If Trump doesn't get rid of the 50 million anchor babies illegally dumped here...the country is literally doomed. NOTHING is more important than losing a white majority to a Hispanic one.

The REAL WORLD...you don't know it...it's hidden from you with propaganda and lies.

Of course they're more united...they WANT everyone together sharing everything. It's the ONLY way they get things. Probably 70-80% of Democrats are collecting some form of welfare. Because the party is 90% women and minorities...the biggest receivers of welfare.

ALL TV is propaganda...if you see it on TV...someone WANTS you to see it...exactly as they show it. I know for a fact that TV "news" is often propaganda...especially the military stuff.

There you go Susie...you're ALMOST there. You KNOW most of what you see/hear is bullsh!t. Race equality is also bullsh!t. Research it, go see for yourself, visit MLK Blvd. The "races", the species of Hominid...are VERY different. The people pulling the strings CAN'T let you know about racial differences...the blacks would go right back into slavery...until they died out as technology eliminates everything they do.

You can not name me ONE place that is majority black and as nice as the villages...not ONE on the entire planet earth...but there are PLENTY of white communities like this...why doesn't that tell you something? Something about them compared to us? Where is the equality? Where are the groundbreaking black geniuses? There aren't ANY. THEY do sports...we think.