Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

Speaking of TeaPartiers and Republicans, Jimmy Hoffa says "Let's take these sons of b*****s out!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...tches_out.html

Then Obama says that he is proud of him!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._of_hoffa.html

...If this isn't reminiscient of Nazi Germany, I don't know what is?

Yes, I think there is a concerted effort to smudge the Tea Party out just like they do to every preconceived threat to their agenda. The Democratic party knows what they are doing.

vg..Please google the term "copperheads"..This was a splinter group that darned near wrecked this country during Lincoln's term..They were Pro slavery and from the north mostly..They went the way of the dinosauers thankfully...BTW..they were democrats!

I guess my posts weren't as bad as Ritchie thought..Vg in timeout,now who is going to jump in and be Ritchie's go to guy?

Totally uncalled for and that post is no better than person you referred to. I've read most of Ritchie's posts and he does not need any go to guy. He is quite capable of making good arguments to support his position. The political forum has deteriorated in the past two months but hopefully those kind of days are a thing of the past.
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What part of the Moderator's memo did you guys not understand? He said to be respectful and to discuss the topic not each other.

I am going to try harder, what say you?

Wow, alot goes on when you go away for the day.

Originally Posted by hrp01

vg..Please google the term "copperheads"..This was a splinter group that darned near wrecked this country during Lincoln's term..They were Pro slavery and from the north mostly..They went the way of the dinosauers thankfully...BTW..they were democrats!

OK; thanks for the Civil War reference. Interesting and minor, in terms of historical significance, story about a pro slavery faction of northerners who wanted an immediate peace settlement with the Confederacy.

This is relevant to this dialogue....................how?

History repeats itself many times over and yet we always have fallen back to a two party system..I was trying to show an example of an extremist group and what almost happened..These typically have been extremist in their views and have not lasted..There are many examples of splinter groups but only a few that have caused this much damage...Like I said before,I have been to tea party meetings a couple of years ago when it was getting started in Pennsylvania and it started out with great ideas..I think it has been overtaken by extremists and a lot of racial hatred..Personally I'm not on a crusade to eliminate racism,it's way above my pay grade,but I don't want the country to be driven to the stone age by a few with their private agenda.

Originally Posted by hrp01

History repeats itself many times over and yet we always have fallen back to a two party system..I was trying to show an example of an extremist group and what almost happened..These typically have been extremist in their views and have not lasted..There are many examples of splinter groups but only a few that have caused this much damage...Like I said before,I have been to tea party meetings a couple of years ago when it was getting started in Pennsylvania and it started out with great ideas..I think it has been overtaken by extremists and a lot of racial hatred..Personally I'm not on a crusade to eliminate racism,it's way above my pay grade,but I don't want the country to be driven to the stone age by a few with their private agenda.

The Copperheads compared to the Tea Party? Why didn't you go all the way and say the Klu Klux Klan? Entirely ridiculous. Your perceptions of the Tea Party is unadulterated lies and nonsense. There's no truth to any of it. End of story.

Ritchie...You calling me a liar???got news for you pal..I've seen it FIRST HAND...If you choose to bury your head in the sand that's on you...

I was involved with the Tea Party up north in New England and there was no trace of so-called racism. Just a bunch of nice people who are concerned for America's future. That's all.

vg you are talking about the majority of the Tea Party members and activity.
hrp is talking about the minority which may contain some members/attitudes that are not in line.

It is the old 80-20 at work....and it is unfortunate that people tend to use the minority incidents as the template for the rest of the organization. Usually because it suits their personal purpose/intent.

Like the media they will attempt to force looking at the world through a straw. They would say the entire world is gray if the were looking at the side of an elephant through a straw!!!! Unfortunately!!

The majority in the tea party, just like the R's and the D's want to do what is right to fix the country.

btk

Originally Posted by RichieLion

The Copperheads compared to the Tea Party? Why didn't you go all the way and say the Klu Klux Klan? Entirely ridiculous. Your perceptions of the Tea Party is unadulterated lies and nonsense. There's no truth to any of it. End of story.

Here is where the difference gets highlighted rather than understood.

Are Tea Party folks racists? NO, but if one was a racist looking for a Party to join, it would most likely be the Tea Party.

Are Republicans all like Ebeneser Scrooge? NO, but if you are stingy and tight, then the Republican Party is the best choice for you.

Are Democrats responsible for all free handouts? NO, but if you support giving it away free, then the Democratic Party is your best shot.

Unfortunately, stereo typing by category is much quicker than looking at individuals and issues one by one.

And thats all I got to say about that.

Originally Posted by billethkid

vg you are talking about the majority of the Tea Party members and activity.
hrp is talking about the minority which may contain some members/attitudes that are not in line.

It is the old 80-20 at work....and it is unfortunate that people tend to use the minority incidents as the template for the rest of the organization. Usually because it suits their personal purpose/intent.

Like the media they will attempt to force looking at the world through a straw. They would say the entire world is gray if the were looking at the side of an elephant through a straw!!!! Unfortunately!!

The majority in the tea party, just like the R's and the D's want to do what is right to fix the country.

btk

Much water gone under the bridge but I was there for the original Tea Party protest with my homemade sign standing inside a round-a-bout. I talked with dozens of people that unforgettable day. Like any organization after it has been around for awhile, it will attract the undesirables. They will be out in droves in the coming months and we are always looking for the infiltrators and identifying them.

Originally Posted by hrp01

Ritchie...You calling me a liar???got news for you pal..I've seen it FIRST HAND...If you choose to bury your head in the sand that's on you...

It's either a lie to bolster you ridiculous comments, or you know some crappy people. Either way, your take on what ever it is you consider "tea party" people is ludicrous.

vill 2...Amen

Originally Posted by The Villager II

Here is where the difference gets highlighted rather than understood.

Are Tea Party folks racists? NO, but if one was a racist looking for a Party to join, it would most likely be the Tea Party.

Are Republicans all like Ebeneser Scrooge? NO, but if you are stingy and tight, then the Republican Party is the best choice for you.

Are Democrats responsible for all free handouts? NO, but if you support giving it away free, then the Democratic Party is your best shot.

Unfortunately, stereo typing by category is much quicker than looking at individuals and issues one by one.

And thats all I got to say about that.

Yeah, great. Why didn't you say,

"If you're a Communist and want to crush the capitalist system, the Democrats would be the Party you would join".

"If you're a guy who wants to exploit the minorities by race baiting, the Democrats would be the Party for you"

"If you're a guy who wants to change the country from within by overpopulating the country with non-America loving illegals, the Democrat Party would be the Party for you.

I got a million of them. All of them as ridiculous as anything you can say.

Ritchie...I doubt you would call me a liar to my face....and it is quite obvious you are the poster boy for the tea party movement..Good Luck in that pal..