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Guest 09-12-2015 10:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112794)
Actions do speak louder than words.

Give me one example where Obama openly condems radical islamic terrorists. Just one.

On the other hand he provides all kinds of examples of poor judgement; one example? Counseling with Al Sharpton on which black issues to make a national example.

He is what he is. A racist person with a warm spot for Islamaic anything that duped the American voters (the ones that voted for him that is) that were more enamored with his rhetoric than who or what he was and is. Add to that those dumb enough to fall for the first black president BS!

The numerous drone strikes carried out by the Obama administration clearly indicate his desire to destroy Islamic terrorists or whatever else you want to call them. Obama's drone strikes are more than 9 times the number of strikes under Bush. Plenty of additional strikes have been carried out since this article was written in January.

So hot shot, there is your "one" example. At least you got the actions speak louder than words part correct, which is a milestone for you since it happens so rarely.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.co...-inauguration/

Guest 09-12-2015 10:20 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112901)
The numerous drone strikes carried out by the Obama administration clearly indicate his desire to destroy Islamic terrorists or whatever else you want to call them. Obama's drone strikes are more than 9 times the number of strikes under Bush. Plenty of additional strikes have been carried out since this article was written in January.

So hot shot, there is your "one" example. At least you got the actions speak louder than words part correct, which is a milestone for you since it happens so rarely.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.co...-inauguration/

Look at the bigger strategic picture, if you are able to do so, and stop apologizing and defending Obama simply because you are a Dummycrat. We're talking about the future of the country and western civilization and your petty pot shots are pathetically irrelevant.

Obama's ACTIONS, overall, have advanced the jihad worldwide. That is obvious at this point.

Guest 09-12-2015 10:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112876)
10000 is not enough - we have room to help many more than that. And we should - and will

Yes, agree.

We start with your spare bedrooms and garage. I'm guessing you can take at least 3 families and kids.

You are a wonderful human being ... stupid, but wonderful.

ps your stupidity is also the reason why Trump will be the next President ... because normal people are FED UP with your kind of moronic emoting and non-thinking.

Guest 09-12-2015 11:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112901)
The numerous drone strikes carried out by the Obama administration clearly indicate his desire to destroy Islamic terrorists or whatever else you want to call them. Obama's drone strikes are more than 9 times the number of strikes under Bush. Plenty of additional strikes have been carried out since this article was written in January.

So hot shot, there is your "one" example. At least you got the actions speak louder than words part correct, which is a milestone for you since it happens so rarely.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.co...-inauguration/

Interesting post.

This is pretty accurate although I do not care for the website but the numbers appear to be spot on.

Funny, this poster would join others in condemning ALL conservatives and ALL Republicans as war mongers and always wanting to bomb.

Actually Obama has dropped bombs in more countries that Bush and that you can check but it is accurate.

Difference is comittment. Obama bombed Libya, for regime change I might add...something Bush is oft criticized for, and then walked away turning that country over to the terrorists.

Many...a very large percentage of the immigrants are from Libya.

Syria was another example. In that country we KNEW that citizens were being bombed, and knew that children were being slaughtered in the street, as well as being gassed and left lying in the streets.

We huffed and puffed and even drew a red line, then we simply ignored it and sent a few drones over....ILLEGALLY I might add since no UN resolution allowed it.

MOST of the immigrants are coming from Syria.

This President said we had a 60 nation coalition to fight the terrorists.....then late last year very quietly it was referred to as 40 nation and now.....tell me...where is his coalition to fight terrorism in the ME ?

Point is, you went away from the actual subject of this thread to defend your president, but the fact is......ISIS has grown significantly in this administration, AlQueda had gotten another breath and foothold, we are about to...well, actually we are in the quick process of getting a lot of money to the single largest sponsor of terrorism ever seen on earth. We have allowed Libya to fall, we have allowed Yemen to fall, and I say WE because it is a fact that they are in the hands of terrorist because of actions taken by this administration and the woman who wants to succeed in the WH.

Not sure why you feel the need to defend this President. The thread was about refugees, the terrible threat they pose to our country.

So much of this problem could have been addressed years ago with some kind of action other than drone strikes which by the way, kill so many many innocent citizens.

So stick with the refugee problem...I just wanted you to know that you were right...he beat Bush with killing with drones but wanted to add a bit more substance to the story you were telling

Guest 09-12-2015 11:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112911)
Look at the bigger strategic picture, if you are able to do so, and stop apologizing and defending Obama simply because you are a Dummycrat. We're talking about the future of the country and western civilization and your petty pot shots are pathetically irrelevant.

Obama's ACTIONS, overall, have advanced the jihad worldwide. That is obvious at this point.

To the person that this was directed at, look at the bigger picture. The far right will not listen to, or read anything that doesn't support the warped view of President Obama. All they do is follow Trump's lead, and talk in extremes. Future of the country and western civilization is a perfect example. Germany, England ,and France apparently aren't part of western civilization. If they were, why would they sign the agreement with Iran, and take in as many Syrian refugees as they have. Let me guess! Socialist countries that don't have a problem with jihad. Not only do they not have a problem it, but they support it.

They talk about petty shots but 90% of them make a habit of calling people names. For some reason known only to them, they think it bothers adults.

One person here stated Democrats are letting refugees in the US for their votes. How do you even begin to address that?

The one accurate point was Obama's meeting with Sharpton. Sharpton is the worst type of bigot. I have no idea why MSNBC gave Sharpton a news hour.

Guest 09-12-2015 11:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112939)

The one accurate point was Obama's meeting with Sharpton. Sharpton is the worst type of bigot. I have no idea why MSNBC gave Sharpton a news hour.

Then you obviously don't understand the modern Democrat Left of which you are a part ... not surprising actually

Guest 09-12-2015 11:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112939)
To the person that this was directed at, look at the bigger picture. The far right will not listen to, or read anything that doesn't support the warped view of President Obama. All they do is follow Trump's lead, and talk in extremes. Future of the country and western civilization is a perfect example. Germany, England ,and France apparently aren't part of western civilization. If they were, why would they sign the agreement with Iran, and take in as many Syrian refugees as they have. Let me guess! Socialist countries that don't have a problem with jihad. Not only do they not have a problem it, but they support it.

They talk about petty shots but 90% of them make a habit of calling people names. For some reason known only to them, they think it bothers adults.

One person here stated Democrats are letting refugees in the US for their votes. How do you even begin to address that?

The one accurate point was Obama's meeting with Sharpton. Sharpton is the worst type of bigot. I have no idea why MSNBC gave Sharpton a news hour.

Let us begin with the basics.

Trump entered this political arena less than 3 months ago....THREE MONTHS and you mention him as some kind of leader. THREE MONTHS.

Now I listened very hard to Obama when he ran for President and while I had my concerns I certainly did nothing but profess my fears.

Problem is HE HAS LIED to all of us....he has single handldly destroyed congress and how it is supposed to work....he has taken such a wonderful opportunity to bring the country closer together racially and has made the divide now so wide...and he did that with his actions, not innuendos....he has strapped this country with one of the biggest single financial disasters ever (the ACA) I assume you are up to date on the fact that this law is not even in affect yet fully and the cost to our government is going to be astronomical and he did this with less than 50% of americans wanting that particular bill and by manipulating the rules of the US Congress.....he is pushing the USA into a deal on Iran that is supported by about 22% of americans..TWENTY TWO..not a mistype and he did that with political backroom theatrics and still could not convince his own party of its merits.

I am not calling you names....not calling our President names...simply stating facts.

You agree on Sharpton ? THINK for a minute. Sharpton has been a tax cheat, felon who has lied his entire career, YET your President puts his total trust in him. Does that make you feel good about the judgement being used in the WH ?

Guest 09-12-2015 11:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112876)
10000 is not enough - we have room to help many more than that. And we should - and will

After you take a couple Muslim refugees into your house to live with you and your spouse, please be careful. If you look at any of the photographs or videos, MOST of the refugees are military age Muslim males.

Thus, while your kindness is just wonderfully heart warming, please make sure they don't behead any of you friends or blow your house up.

Guest 09-12-2015 12:25 PM

Liberals want the refugees? OK, but just remember that when they start beating and killing gays, and women you are going to run out of liberal voters. shria law, you know.

Guest 09-12-2015 01:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112939)
To the person that this was directed at, look at the bigger picture. The far right will not listen to, or read anything that doesn't support the warped view of President Obama. All they do is follow Trump's lead, and talk in extremes. Future of the country and western civilization is a perfect example. Germany, England ,and France apparently aren't part of western civilization. If they were, why would they sign the agreement with Iran, and take in as many Syrian refugees as they have. Let me guess! Socialist countries that don't have a problem with jihad. Not only do they not have a problem it, but they support it.

They talk about petty shots but 90% of them make a habit of calling people names. For some reason known only to them, they think it bothers adults.

One person here stated Democrats are letting refugees in the US for their votes. How do you even begin to address that?

The one accurate point was Obama's meeting with Sharpton. Sharpton is the worst type of bigot. I have no idea why MSNBC gave Sharpton a news hour.

While other posters have pointed out the inaccuracies in your post, allow me to post a REASON for one of your inaccuracies.

You mention Trump.....the NEW 3 MONTH OLD TRUMP as the leader.

WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO HIM ?

Because they are sick of the last 6 years, the poised, slick lies told to the country and, in my opinion, the ridiculing of the american people by our President.

THAT is why the people are listening to Trump.

Guest 09-12-2015 01:57 PM

America now has two solutions to the mass influx of liberalism.

1. Planned Parenthood
2. Muslim refugees (sharia law)

The future of the Republican party is assured.

Guest 09-12-2015 04:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1112949)
Let us begin with the basics.

Trump entered this political arena less than 3 months ago....THREE MONTHS and you mention him as some kind of leader. THREE MONTHS.

Now I listened very hard to Obama when he ran for President and while I had my concerns I certainly did nothing but profess my fears.

Problem is HE HAS LIED to all of us....he has single handldly destroyed congress and how it is supposed to work....he has taken such a wonderful opportunity to bring the country closer together racially and has made the divide now so wide...and he did that with his actions, not innuendos....he has strapped this country with one of the biggest single financial disasters ever (the ACA) I assume you are up to date on the fact that this law is not even in affect yet fully and the cost to our government is going to be astronomical and he did this with less than 50% of americans wanting that particular bill and by manipulating the rules of the US Congress.....he is pushing the USA into a deal on Iran that is supported by about 22% of americans..TWENTY TWO..not a mistype and he did that with political backroom theatrics and still could not convince his own party of its merits.

I am not calling you names....not calling our President names...simply stating facts.

You agree on Sharpton ? THINK for a minute. Sharpton has been a tax cheat, felon who has lied his entire career, YET your President puts his total trust in him. Does that make you feel good about the judgement being used in the WH ?


What I said was "following Trump's lead"! That doesn't make him a leader. The posters here are using that same tactic as Trump by always using the extremes, ie: best, worst, etc. He obviously set the example, and posters here are following his example.

You have got to kidding on the Obama has single handedly destroyed congress, and how it works. So, the filibuster king, Mitch McConnell, skates all responsibility for congresses meltdown. The Tea Party has taken out almost all moderate Republicans, and that is Obama's fault. "Give us our country back". That comment was made early in his presidency, but he is the problem!

Back up the ACA comment with facts. Here is a fact for you the Kaiser Research Group stated from 1999 to 2009 the increase in health insurance premiums was 131%, and inflation during that period was 28%. You don't think that those types of increases, and the causes had to be addressed.

There is so much misinformation being spread about the Iran deal that has lead to the 22%. The Democrats in the Senate looked into in great detail the agreement, went into many classified meetings, contacted other countries involved in the sanctions, and then voted based upon what they found, and the alternatives. The Republicans rejected the deal before they even saw it. What was the alternative, a better deal.

Colin Powell says that the deal, if Iran complies, is a good deal. His comments are totally dismissed due to the color of his skin. That speaks volumes for the far right.

Guest 09-12-2015 04:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1113119)
What I said was "following Trump's lead"! That doesn't make him a leader. The posters here are using that same tactic as Trump by always using the extremes, ie: best, worst, etc. He obviously set the example, and posters here are following his example.

You have got to kidding on the Obama has single handedly destroyed congress, and how it works. So, the filibuster king, Mitch McConnell, skates all responsibility for congresses meltdown. The Tea Party has taken out almost all moderate Republicans, and that is Obama's fault. "Give us our country back". That comment was made early in his presidency, but he is the problem!

Back up the ACA comment with facts. Here is a fact for you the Kaiser Research Group stated from 1999 to 2009 the increase in health insurance premiums was 131%, and inflation during that period was 28%. You don't think that those types of increases, and the causes had to be addressed.

There is so much misinformation being spread about the Iran deal that has lead to the 22%. The Democrats in the Senate looked into in great detail the agreement, went into many classified meetings, contacted other countries involved in the sanctions, and then voted based upon what they found, and the alternatives. The Republicans rejected the deal before they even saw it. What was the alternative, a better deal.

Colin Powell says that the deal, if Iran complies, is a good deal. His comments are totally dismissed due to the color of his skin. That speaks volumes for the far right.


You just made up stuff to post.

First how dare you, in any way, accuse posters of racism as relates to Powell. You simply made that charge up, which is becoming typical.

You do know that the ACA has not even taken effect yet, and the numbers you cite include those who had no premium when this began.

And finally because your accusation of racism which has become the standard yell of you folks under all circumstances is very insulting. I will just suggest you read the acts of Reid, etal on the ACA, the bribe paid to LA to get that final vote, and the gyrations used on Iran.

That's it.....stop with your racial crap. If you don't know anything, hust keep your mouth shut and stop with general scattergun racist remarks.

Disgusting, not only you your blatant racism but your simply espousing far left propaganda, which is old, been disproved.

But what do I know, being a racist and all

Guest 09-12-2015 05:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1113119)
What I said was "following Trump's lead"! That doesn't make him a leader. The posters here are using that same tactic as Trump by always using the extremes, ie: best, worst, etc. He obviously set the example, and posters here are following his example.

You have got to kidding on the Obama has single handedly destroyed congress, and how it works. So, the filibuster king, Mitch McConnell, skates all responsibility for congresses meltdown. The Tea Party has taken out almost all moderate Republicans, and that is Obama's fault. "Give us our country back". That comment was made early in his presidency, but he is the problem!

Back up the ACA comment with facts. Here is a fact for you the Kaiser Research Group stated from 1999 to 2009 the increase in health insurance premiums was 131%, and inflation during that period was 28%. You don't think that those types of increases, and the causes had to be addressed.

There is so much misinformation being spread about the Iran deal that has lead to the 22%. The Democrats in the Senate looked into in great detail the agreement, went into many classified meetings, contacted other countries involved in the sanctions, and then voted based upon what they found, and the alternatives. The Republicans rejected the deal before they even saw it. What was the alternative, a better deal.

Colin Powell says that the deal, if Iran complies, is a good deal. His comments are totally dismissed due to the color of his skin. That speaks volumes for the far right.

More liberal propaganda. Too bad you are so brainwashed that you believe all the :censored: that they feed you. Instead of attempting to defend with myths, try being the open minded liberal that your ideology suggests and look at the truth.

What was the big Obamacare todo all about? It was supposed to make health care more affordable for EVERYONE. What did it do? My premiums went up 50% in one year. My daughter's deductible went up 20% in one year and her premiums went up about the same or more. Folks that paid cash for their medical are now required to "purchase" insurance or pay a fine. Medicare that we paid all our working lives for, is now being stolen from by almost a trillion bucks to help pay for those that don't have insurance. STOLEN!! We are now required to pay for abortions, that is supposed to be unconstitutional, but have to pay for anyway. Business owners have to pay for health insurance and have closed down because of it. My daughter-in-law sold her business because she couldn't afford the changes in the healthcare laws. These are things that you gloss over or will deny and accuse others of lying. Now, a process/test that my wife's oncologist requires periodically to make sure she is cancer free, is no longer affordable. It used to be covered by our insurance. Don't tell me how great Obamacare is.
You can deny how the recession started all you want, but one fact remains, when 9/11 caused the crash of the stock market and my 401K went down the tube, it didn't take the Bush administration a year to get the economy back up on it's feet. He may not have had much to do with it, but he definitely didn't hinder it, like this administration has. This administration is still holding up the economy recovery and has cost us more money than any other administration combined all the way back to G.Washington. And when Obama is gone the economy will still be attempting to recover. Our children will feel the effect.
With Obama:
More folks on food stamps than ever
More folks quit the job market than ever
More folks below poverty level
More blacks unemployed than ever
More blacks aborted than born last year
Lower middle class lifestyle
Larger terrorist threat than ever
Lies about number of deportations
Too many negative things associated with this administration.
Lies about Benqhazi
Panel to decide whether or not you get healthcare treatment

When are you going to be a man and quit lying about the Tea Party. They had nothing to do with anything except focus on constitutional values. You still haven't told me one thing that you know as fact about them. I asked you before and you simply CAN'T answer. You know nothing and it's not like it is a secret Mason handshake or anything. Tell me what you don't like about what the Tea Party stands for.

Are you against smaller government?
Are you against a gov guided by the constitution?

What are you against? Do you even know? Write to Reid and Pelosi and get back to me.

Guest 09-12-2015 06:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1113136)
More liberal propaganda. Too bad you are so brainwashed that you believe all the :censored: that they feed you. Instead of attempting to defend with myths, try being the open minded liberal that your ideology suggests and look at the truth.

What was the big Obamacare todo all about? It was supposed to make health care more affordable for EVERYONE. What did it do? My premiums went up 50% in one year. My daughter's deductible went up 20% in one year and her premiums went up about the same or more. Folks that paid cash for their medical are now required to "purchase" insurance or pay a fine. Medicare that we paid all our working lives for, is now being stolen from by almost a trillion bucks to help pay for those that don't have insurance. STOLEN!! We are now required to pay for abortions, that is supposed to be unconstitutional, but have to pay for anyway. Business owners have to pay for health insurance and have closed down because of it. My daughter-in-law sold her business because she couldn't afford the changes in the healthcare laws. These are things that you gloss over or will deny and accuse others of lying. Now, a process/test that my wife's oncologist requires periodically to make sure she is cancer free, is no longer affordable. It used to be covered by our insurance. Don't tell me how great Obamacare is.
You can deny how the recession started all you want, but one fact remains, when 9/11 caused the crash of the stock market and my 401K went down the tube, it didn't take the Bush administration a year to get the economy back up on it's feet. He may not have had much to do with it, but he definitely didn't hinder it, like this administration has. This administration is still holding up the economy recovery and has cost us more money than any other administration combined all the way back to G.Washington. And when Obama is gone the economy will still be attempting to recover. Our children will feel the effect.
With Obama:
More folks on food stamps than ever
More folks quit the job market than ever
More folks below poverty level
More blacks unemployed than ever
More blacks aborted than born last year
Lower middle class lifestyle
Larger terrorist threat than ever
Lies about number of deportations
Too many negative things associated with this administration.
Lies about Benqhazi
Panel to decide whether or not you get healthcare treatment

When are you going to be a man and quit lying about the Tea Party. They had nothing to do with anything except focus on constitutional values. You still haven't told me one thing that you know as fact about them. I asked you before and you simply CAN'T answer. You know nothing and it's not like it is a secret Mason handshake or anything. Tell me what you don't like about what the Tea Party stands for.

Are you against smaller government?
Are you against a gov guided by the constitution?

What are you against? Do you even know? Write to Reid and Pelosi and get back to me.

:bigbow:


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