It's not too late. Obama has done his damage. We can set us on the right path if we vote him out in 2012.

proud dem
 

Not with the opposition the republicans are putting out there now..How will that straighten out the tea party farrrrr right wingers? the only thing that will help them is to be put out to pasture...All incumbents out!!!

Why do you call my friends and neighbors farrrr right wingers? Are you one of those left-wing moonbats that I have been hearing about?

PLease tell us more about the Tea Partiers.

proud dem
 

Village Golfer,I call you that because it's soooo true...Refusal to hear any opinion other than Obama out at any cost.....My friends and I are not liberals,nor are all of them Democrats..We are conservative but not willing to go back to the stone age...I believe in welfare reform, fair taxation, no corporate loopholes, strict enforcement of immigration laws, mandatory prison for any elected official convicted of any criminal violation of trust, the death penalty (love texas for that),a woman's right to choose, cut back on foreign aid and help feed our poor, leave Afganistan, cut military waste (everyone knows it exists), no tax break for any corporation that refuses to hire and develop american workers,freedom of religion, no gun control. I think it's just a little right of center and the biggest difference is that I'm open to opposing opinions...That little tea party stunt just pulled darn near threw us into a recession again,and we are nowhere near out of the previous one..It was uncalled for and just plain hateful with no real purpose...

There you go..Thanks for your interest

did somebody hijacked your name?

As you see above, this thread started out as a very simple ONE MANS OPINION ON 2012. :shrug:

proud dem
 

VG,
Wow,I'm looking through your posts and it's hard to find one that you didn't call someone a name...."Moonbats"...Whatever that is?

"Conservatives?" for Obama? No offense, but that sounds like you must be able to have meetings in a phone booth.

What hateful Tea Party stunt threw us into a recession? I gotta hear that one.

Hrpo1 does sound like he has good values and beliefs. I go along with all of them except for the "no gun control" but that is the only one I disagree with.

Richie, the Tea Party stunt that was referred to means the no compromise by the Tea Party on the debt ceiling lifting. That should have never been in doubt. The Tea Party and their children type attitudes were not good examples for other countries in the world to see us in. The Tea Party has to learn that actions in the US have a global effect.

I enjoyed the good conversation last night with everyone - as well as the Yeunglings.

proud dem
 

Buggy one,Thanks...
I guess it's the old military training and the fact my children are working in law enforcement that the gun control is something that I don't really believe in..I do believe there ought to be a better tracking/screening system for these,especiall assault weapons,though for the life of me, they really play no roll in a peaceful situation....Ritchie,pls understand that everything we do or say as a nation is very closely monitored by both friends and foes alike..they are searching for weakness, in any area and will strike.It's no secret tha Bin Laden had a goal of wreaking havoc on our economic situation..

The "stunt" your tea party cronies pulled was to hold the debt ceiling hostage to get cuts in spending..Two entirely separate issues as the debt ceiling was for money already owed and previously approved by congress.That tantrum has caused the market to decline almost 20 percent since it was played out because there was a real fear that we would not pay our bills..If you look at a class clown like Walsh, a spokesperson for the tea party caucus in congress, and listen to this fool, you will see how the anger can be created.This guy had to be sued for back child support and now he is a spokesperson for "what's right"..Pulease!.All of this was needless and extremely painful to us and the nation along with our economy and reputation..Look at congressional approval ratings...the worst in history...Not that Obasma's is any better..I'm a believer in "all incumbents out".very radical approach, but a clear message..I just wish the Republicans had a more middle of the road candidate and I won't vote for most of these guys.Just my 2cents.

Do you mean the Republican's? Because the last time I looked there were two sides of the aisle and it was Democrats on one side and Republicans on the other.

You guys seem to have no idea what the Tea Party movement is. You seem to think they are a political party. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but no, they aren't.

Even with your misconceptions, the objection to raising the debt ceiling while cutting spending is only a disaster in your minds. I reject your analysis and so do many. Stunt?......ha!!

proud dem
 

Ritchie,you are right...Only without the tea party caucus the republicans would lose the majority and they had Boehner over a barrel..There was no comprimise..Remember when Mc Cain called the tea party "hobbits"...They were angry because the tea party held up the whole process needlessly..

John McCain is old line "hand in each other's pockets" Republican. The fact he doesn't like the Tea Party only adds to it's appeal to most Republicans.

The Tea Party movement is dragging the Republican Party back to respectability. The process needed holding up and in the end the Republicans caved and some may pay in the coming primaries. The Democrats strategically delayed until the 11th hour and then got everyone's panties in a twist screaming "oh no, we gonna default, we gonna default", when it was they who delayed the budget by not negotiating for months.

People won't forget and true patriots like Marco Rubio won't let them.

proud dem
 

Rubio is an absolute joke...He has the foreign vote that's for sure...

The tea party movement is turning out to be a threat to the business as usual in Washington.

And who said the tea party movement was only relegated to the republican party? I guess the faithful and the media only play it that way.

Perhaps it is unfortunate the movement toward not electing incumbents and changing business as usual in Washington was labeled tea party and then polarized.

There are American voters across the board who are fed up with the way Washington works or does not work. There is no need to constantly be trying to force every single outcome into either an R or a D.

Once upon a time such a general displeasure with an activity or organization or individual, etc was called a groundswell....no partisan assignation required.

The sooner we get back to discussing what is good for America and give up on the destructive need to paint everything R or D... the better. Just think of what we all do every single day that does not involve an R or D need.....just about everything we do....now why is that? Because there are some things that politicians and the media know....and that is ultimately you cannot make Americans do what they don't want to do or don't like.

And the majority of us do not like what is going on in Washington and the majority of us do not like the way Obama and congress is doing it. No R or D required to present what America feels. (I do recognize what a major discomfort that presents for those who only know partisan positioning only...what a shame for them).

btk