Originally Posted by Guest

If all men were created equally, why did slaves count only as three fifths of a freeman?

Oh no, here we go with the dreaded revisionist history that the regressives are always talking about!

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I don't think they did. I'm not sure they were speaking for women either.
And I wonder if they truly meant everyone was created equally would we have skipped the civil war, spared lives or needed to rebuild the nation.
By now our society would be completely homogeneous too.
What do you think?
[anyone can answer]

We are in agreement. You missed that point.

Originally Posted by Guest

Ask the slaves at the time of the Declaration of Independence if they enjoyed Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

I guess the slaves can thank God for Republicans, since they are the ones that continued to pursue freedom for them, even into the 50's and 60's with the equal rights Amendments. It's a shame and very disingenuous that the left is always trying to take credit for civil rights.

Originally Posted by Guest

If all men were created equally, why did slaves count only as three fifths of a freeman?

They had it wrong. You have it right. What's your point? We need to fix things to make it right?

Originally Posted by Guest

I guess the slaves can thank God for Republicans, since they are the ones that continued to pursue freedom for them, even into the 50's and 60's with the equal rights Amendments. It's a shame and very disingenuous that the left is always trying to take credit for civil rights.

So the failed programs are caused by the Republicans of the 50's and 60's.

disingenuous-
Lately you see that word quite a bit on the threads.
Synonyms:
misrepresented, twisted, artful, insincere, distorted

Originally Posted by Guest

Ask the slaves at the time of the Declaration of Independence if they enjoyed Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Weren't considered "people", I'm thinking they were right and we're wrong.

Originally Posted by Guest

I don't think they did. I'm not sure they were speaking for women either.
And I wonder if they truly meant everyone was created equally would we have skipped the civil war, spared lives or needed to rebuild the nation.
By now our society would be completely homogeneous too.
What do you think?
[anyone can answer]

All "men" are "created equal", you're not equal, never were and never will be. That's why the "civil rights movement" really destroyed this nation, it didn't improve anything. We WERE at the top before the 60s, now we struggle to stay mediocre. Not everyone has the same potential.

Originally Posted by Guest

I doubt they enjoyed Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I doubt their decedents are enjoying those things today. Assistance programs have not been helping them over the years, just keeping them in the lower social and economic status. Some of the housing projects have 3 generations of families living there in a row, an absolute failure of those programs.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

They're not capable, they're not equal, that's why they can't compete equally.

Originally Posted by Guest

They had it wrong. You have it right. What's your point? We need to fix things to make it right?

No, they had it RIGHT...WE have it wrong. Things started downhill with the "civil rights" of the 60s. When we started fooling ourselves that everyone is equal.

Equality is nothing more than another platform for select special interest and minority groups to have a political position that of course it immediately picked up and amplified by the politicians and their lemming media.

I say if you want to be equal to what I have you make the same peronal sacrifices and efforts to get there.

You want it handed to you by making it a political, media side show.....stay where you are....you have what you have (earned).

Originally Posted by Guest

I say if you want to be equal to what I have you make the same peronal sacrifices and efforts to get there.

You want it handed to you by making it a political, media side show.....stay where you are....you have what you have (earned).

Originally Posted by Guest

I guess the slaves can thank God for Republicans, since they are the ones that continued to pursue freedom for them, even into the 50's and 60's with the equal rights Amendments. It's a shame and very disingenuous that the left is always trying to take credit for civil rights.

Sir you are correct but you forget one important fact (not sure you're really into facts though). The democratic southern racists turned republican when Johnson signed the civil rights bill in the 60's. Now those same southern racists are voting for the likes of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.

Originally Posted by Guest

Sir you are correct but you forget one important fact (not sure you're really into facts though). The democratic southern racists turned republican when Johnson signed the civil rights bill in the 60's. Now those same southern racists are voting for the likes of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.

I believe the quote was:

"We have lost the South for a generation!"

It has been much longer than that.....

The long goodbye | The Economist

In 1952 and 1956, a majority of blacks backed the Republican Party. The Democratic domination of the African American vote really did not begin until 1960, when Kennedy dramatically called Coretta Scott King, the wife of Dr. Martin Luther King, after her husband was sent to prison in Georgia. On Election Day, blacks showed their appreciation by voting for Kennedy by a margin of 70-30, more than enough to give the Democrat the victory over Richard Nixon.
In 1964, the black preference for the Democrats became a landslide, as president Lyndon Johnson rallied a grieving nation after Kennedy's assassination to demand passage of the strong civil rights bill JFK had proposed during his last year in office. Backed by a national outcry, Johnson jammed through the far-reaching legislation, which ended discrimination against blacks in virtually every area of national life. Ironically, it was only with strong Republican support that the bill was able to pass.
Source: Condi vs. Hillary, by Dick Morris, p. 56-57 , Oct 11, 2005

And yet, the Democrats voted against every civil rights bill for two centuries.

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And yet, the Democrats voted against every civil rights bill for two centuries.

go figure

Originally Posted by Guest

Sir you are correct but you forget one important fact (not sure you're really into facts though). The democratic southern racists turned republican when Johnson signed the civil rights bill in the 60's. Now those same southern racists are voting for the likes of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.

Oh? I 've heard that also. Please tell me how many of your so-called Southern Racists turned Republican. Does that mean that the Republicans that were FOR abolishing slavery and voted for all those amendments were really Democrats in disguise? I have heard many myths regarding how Democrats turned Republican so were not responsible for voting against abolishing slavery. I have also heard many excuses as to how they (Democrats) were not against Civil rights, even though they voted against it. I think that it is convenient to repeat myths, and you have been very good at convincing minorities that you are really on their side. So exactly how many Republicans turned Democrat when the Democrats turned Republican?

Originally Posted by Guest

go figure

I believe we both know why? That Democratic party was transformed under Kennedy and Johnson!